UM VS. ISU

[Ballhog]

For close watchers of Hoops it has been apparent that Mayes had
superior talent. Last season he came off the bench to score 10
to help defeat MSU> Unfortunately for him, the coaches have tried
to bench him to get what they want-he needed more minutes.
This underscores how deep the Griz are.
ISU played 7 guys-our depth won out. This won't be true with
NAU>Chavez has earned his time; Give it to him! Play Zone-
Do this Strait,Hasquet, Mayes, Ellis, Rundles. Created huge matchup problems.

Finally-1. Brad Huse is Coach of the Year; no question.
2. Watch out for PSU-they have gelled.
3. Pray that Coaches continue to improve-give
Strait the Ball when he is open.

 

[Griz2k]

For close watchers of Hoops it has been apparent that Mayes had
superior talent. Last season he came off the bench to score 10
to help defeat MSU> Unfortunately for him, the coaches have tried
to bench him to get what they want-he needed more minutes.
This underscores how deep the Griz are.
ISU played 7 guys-our depth won out. This won't be true with
NAU>Chavez has earned his time; Give it to him! Play Zone-
Do this Strait,Hasquet, Mayes, Ellis, Rundles. Created huge matchup problems.

Finally-1. Brad Huse is Coach of the Year; no question.
2. Watch out for PSU-they have gelled.
3. Pray that Coaches continue to improve-give
Strait the Ball when he is open.

I respectfully disagree. This one goes to the Weber coach, no question.

 

[Ballhog]

Must disagree-Weber has as good as talent + experience. Brad H.
is lplaying with an empty cupboard. Also, it is apparent that he
had a lot to do with Griz'z performance last yr. Tinks need better
assistants-he should lose a couple-all they do is blame the players.

 

[solid020]

weber state's coach is more deserving of coach of the year, although huse has no doubt done a good job with the cats for what he was given. wsu's coach, as well as leadership on the court, gave them the direction for them to be hosting the tournament. i agree with ballhog's second and third points. portland state is the hottest team right now. my prediction is in that they beat weber state. for the last point, changes must be made. duchesne should be kept, but the other two thrown out.

 

[GrizWhiz]

weber state's coach is more deserving of coach of the year, although huse has no doubt done a good job with the cats for what he was given. wsu's coach, as well as leadership on the court, gave them the direction for them to be hosting the tournament. i agree with ballhog's second and third points. portland state is the hottest team right now. my prediction is in that they beat weber state. for the last point, changes must be made. duchesne should be kept, but the other two thrown out.

Why should "the other two" be "thrown out"?

 

[solid020]

i dont necessarily mean to fire them from grizzly athletics. but both coach hill and coach marso are not ncaa coaches. a better coaching staff would help a lot with the mens bball program.

 

[Grizbacker1]

i dont necessarily mean to fire them from grizzly athletics. but both coach hill and coach marso are not ncaa coaches. a better coaching staff would help a lot with the mens bball program.

So please tell us what your criterium is to be a college assistant coach. Here are their resumes in a nutshell. If Marso isn't qualified, who is???

Marso racked up a career record of 179-51 while spending eight seasons as a head coach at the junior college level. Last season Marso was the head coach at Garden City (Kan.) Community College where he compiled a 18-12 record. His Garden City CC team was ranked fifth in the country in the preseason by Street & Smith magazine, and he signed two pre-season All-Americans.

Hill also served as a graduate assistant coach during the 2003-04 season at fellow Big Sky Conference member Eastern Washington, the 2004 league champions. While at EWU, Hill was involved in promotion of the Eagles' camps and aided in recruiting as well.

Hill spent the 2001-02 and 2002-03 seasons as an assistant at Lewis-Clark State College in Lewiston, Idaho. In his two seasons at Lewis-Clark State, the Warriors advanced to consecutive NAIA National Tournaments.

He was also an assistant coach and recruiting coordinator at Whitworth College in Spokane for the 2000-01 season.

 

[GrizWhiz]

i dont necessarily mean to fire them from grizzly athletics. but both coach hill and coach marso are not ncaa coaches. a better coaching staff would help a lot with the mens bball program.

Once again, Why?? You have provided zero reasons. Marso has especially impressive credentials. I was sorry to lose him when Kennedy hightailed it out of Missoula. Again, remember that Krysko, (a guy who seems to know what he is doing), hired Marso.

 

[solid020]

let me make my point clear, which obviously i should have done in the first place. they are both qualified obviously, i knew of their past successes for quite sometime now. they are good college coaches. but there is a clear difference between junior college, NAIA, and division 1 basketball. if you think theres no difference, then you have a problem yourself. both are good to be with grizzly athletics, not arguing that. but the past two years werent to hill's contributions. as far as producing a better mens program here at montana, and leading teams to the postseason, there should be changes. [/b]

 

[solid020]

the reason why things have gone the way they have this year isn't necessarily lack of leadership. the biggest question is coaching, both head and assistant coaching. you shouldn't be pointing the finger at the players. the coaches are the ones who are directing this team, thus forming the position we are currently in: having all these down the stretch and close games.

 

[twentythreeOh4]

Must disagree-Weber has as good as talent + experience. Brad H.
is lplaying with an empty cupboard. Also, it is apparent that he
had a lot to do with Griz'z performance last yr. Tinks need better
assistants-he should lose a couple-all they do is blame the players.

Weber has 13 new players on the roster this year!! Only 3 players returned from last year. You can try to compare WSU's cupboard to MSU's cupboard all you want, but the fact is Randy Rahe is going to win the coach of the year. It's not even going to be close! Huse will not get a single vote because Rahe is going to win in a landslide. Nobody deserves it more than Rahe does -- anybody that says otherwise doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. WSU went from last to first -- that's going to win over the 5th place team EVERY TIME.

 

[AtHomeInTheDahlbergDen]

What's the difference between coaching JC, NAIA and D-I? I can see differences in recruiting, but the differences in coaching aren't jumping out at me.

Level of play, complexity of schemes, better coaches. You think beating a JC zone is the same as beating d1 zone? or how about defending a NAIA 2-guard vs a D1 guard? I really am not saying Marso and hill shouldn't be here... i'm just arguing against the assumption that lower levels are the same as D1.

 

[GrizWhiz]

the reason why things have gone the way they have this year isn't necessarily lack of leadership. the biggest question is coaching, both head and assistant coaching. you shouldn't be pointing the finger at the players. the coaches are the ones who are directing this team, thus forming the position we are currently in: having all these down the stretch and close games.

You still haven't given one bleedin' reason why these 2 guys are deficient. Did Nate D coach at the D1 level prior to joining the Griz? Nope. Marso has. Hill has. If you look at solely at experience, Marso is more qualified than Nate. Also, I don't think anybody here is "pointing fingers" at the players. In fact, I don't believe any finger pointing at all is necessary. This team is now 11-6 in Big Sky play and in the semis after a great comeback win (essentially without their first team all league starting post in the 2nd half) in the first round of the playoffs. Not bad! :clap:

 

[mtgrizrule]

the reason why things have gone the way they have this year isn't necessarily lack of leadership. the biggest question is coaching, both head and assistant coaching. you shouldn't be pointing the finger at the players. the coaches are the ones who are directing this team, thus forming the position we are currently in: having all these down the stretch and close games.

You still haven't given one bleedin' reason why these 2 guys are deficient. Did Nate D coach at the D1 level prior to joining the Griz? Nope. Marso has. Hill has. If you look at solely at experience, Marso is more qualified than Nate. Also, I don't think anybody here is "pointing fingers" at the players. In fact, I don't believe any finger pointing at all is necessary. This team is now 11-6 in Big Sky play and in the semis after a great comeback win (essentially without their first team all league starting post in the 2nd half) in the first round of the playoffs. Not bad! :clap:

Could it be that Hill and Marso are short? IMHO they are both very fine assistant coaches. This is not a team that finger points. They share in responsibility and accountability as a team! (meaning players and coaches.) Only finger pointing being done this year is by the fans.