UM No. 1 in Conference Scoring Defense and Red Zone Defense

[theobserver]

I think the conference only stats are a better indicator of where teams are at so far.

We've played TWO (and for EWU, ONE) conference games so far. It's all supposition until there's 5-6 common opponents.

I LOVE how 5-6 is embedded into you guys..... :lol:

 

[PlayerRep]

Cats have 2 losses, including to a bad team. UM has 1 loss. Keep dreaming that the Cats are a great team this year. They either aren't or haven't shown it yet. NAU would have beaten the Cats if they had played at NAU a week ago, and the Griz would have beaten NAU had they played them yesterday. Monmouth, Colo Mesa and SMU (their only win is against the Cats).

That loss to a bad team was a loss to the top passing offense in the nation, and the Cats played their backup QB in that game to. I really have to wonder what SFA would do to the Griz with your weak secondary and SSH starting.

The other loss was to a FBS team.

Your speculation that the games against NAU would be different had they been played at different times is not based on any reality.

The Cats give up 52 points and 567 yards to SFA, and you blame your back up qb? Now that's pretty funny.

That is funny coming from someone who blamed ALL OF LAST YEAR on the back up QB!! The hypocrisy of you Griz fans is Funny!! :thumb:

No hypocrisy here. I said consistently that MSU would suffer from having McGhee out, and that the back-up could not consistently be as good. Not having JJ last year severely hurt UM. Given how the MSU back up played at SFA, which was decent or pretty good, he did not cause MSU to give up 52 points and 567 yards. Feel free to tell us that you believe the Cat back up caused the SFA points/yards, or that not having JJ didn't hurt UM significantly last year. Do you have in any substance in you, or are you all troll?

 

[WILD_CAT]

I think the conference only stats are a better indicator of where teams are at so far.

SCORING OFFENSE

1. Montana State 2 13 3 12 0 0 0 99 49.5
2. Eastern Washington 1 6 0 5 0 0 0 41 41.0
3. Cal Poly 1 5 1 5 0 0 0 38 38.0
4. Montana 2 9 3 8 0 0 0 71 35.5
5. Sacramento State 2 9 2 8 0 0 0 68 34.0
6. Portland State 2 9 0 7 0 0 0 61 30.5
7. UC Davis 2 6 3 6 0 0 0 51 25.5
8. North Dakota 2 7 0 6 0 0 0 48 24.0
9. Northern Colorado 2 6 0 6 0 0 0 42 21.0
10. Northern Arizona 2 5 2 5 0 0 0 41 20.5
11. Idaho State 2 4 3 3 1 0 0 38 19.0
12. Southern Utah 2 3 3 3 0 0 0 30 15.0
13. Weber State 2 3 1 1 0 0 0 22 11.0

TOTAL DEFENSE

1. Montana State 2 229 253 121 482 4.0 2 241.0
2. Eastern Washington 1 109 140 68 249 3.7 3 249.0
3. Sacramento State 2 189 431 127 620 4.9 3 310.0
4. UC Davis 2 157 495 148 652 4.4 1 326.0
5. Southern Utah 2 203 462 133 665 5.0 6 332.5
6. Northern Arizona 2 331 379 137 710 5.2 5 355.0
7. Idaho State 2 364 465 137 829 6.1 5 414.5
8. Northern Colorado 2 254 581 161 835 5.2 8 417.5
9. Weber State 2 370 505 142 875 6.2 10 437.5
10. Montana 2 264 663 143 927 6.5 6 463.5
11. Cal Poly 1 185 302 67 487 7.3 5 487.0
North Dakota 2 338 636 168 974 5.8 11 487.0
13. Portland State 2 809 290 168 1099 6.5 11 549.5



SCORING DEFENSE

1. UC Davis 2 1 3 1 0 0 0 16 8.0
2. Sacramento State 2 3 1 3 0 0 0 24 12.0
3. Montana State 2 4 0 3 0 0 0 27 13.5
4. Eastern Washington 1 3 0 1 0 0 0 19 19.0
5. Southern Utah 2 6 0 6 0 0 0 42 21.0
6. Northern Arizona 2 6 4 4 0 0 0 52 26.0
7. Idaho State 2 7 3 7 0 0 0 58 29.0
8. Montana 2 8 2 7 0 0 0 61 30.5
9. Northern Colorado 2 8 3 7 0 0 0 64 32.0
10. Cal Poly 1 5 0 4 0 0 0 34 34.0
11. Weber State 2 10 1 9 0 0 0 72 36.0
12. North Dakota 2 12 1 11 1 0 0 88 44.0
13. Portland State 2 12 3 12 0 0 0 93 46.5


PASS DEFENSE

1. Montana State 2 32 66 2 48.5 253 3.8 1 126.5
2. Eastern Washington 1 17 27 1 63.0 140 5.2 1 140.0
3. Portland State 2 18 42 1 42.9 290 6.9 6 145.0
4. Northern Arizona 2 26 59 1 44.1 379 6.4 2 189.5
5. Sacramento State 2 32 63 1 50.8 431 6.8 1 215.5
6. Southern Utah 2 42 68 2 61.8 462 6.8 3 231.0
7. Idaho State 2 36 58 2 62.1 465 8.0 2 232.5
8. UC Davis 2 48 95 3 50.5 495 5.2 1 247.5
9. Weber State 2 47 64 3 73.4 505 7.9 8 252.5
10. Northern Colorado 2 54 77 1 70.1 581 7.5 5 290.5
11. Cal Poly 1 16 32 1 50.0 302 9.4 4 302.0
12. North Dakota 2 62 95 3 65.3 636 6.7 5 318.0
13. Montana 2 47 72 4 65.3 663 9.2 4 331.5


RUSHING DEFENSE

1. UC Davis 2 53 157 3.0 0 78.5
2. Sacramento State 2 64 189 3.0 2 94.5
3. Southern Utah 2 65 203 3.1 3 101.5
4. Eastern Washington 1 41 109 2.7 2 109.0
5. Montana State 2 55 229 4.2 1 114.5
6. Northern Colorado 2 84 254 3.0 3 127.0
7. Montana 2 71 264 3.7 2 132.0
8. Northern Arizona 2 78 331 4.2 3 165.5
9. North Dakota 2 73 338 4.6 6 169.0
10. Idaho State 2 79 364 4.6 3 182.0
11. Weber State 2 78 370 4.7 2 185.0
Cal Poly 1 35 185 5.3 1 185.0
13. Portland State 2 126 809 6.4 5 404.5

This is cute.

You guys were similar stat juggernauts in 2011 when we curb stomped you. :lol:

Yes, you did. But you had a LOT better D in 2011.

 

[theobserver]

That loss to a bad team was a loss to the top passing offense in the nation, and the Cats played their backup QB in that game to. I really have to wonder what SFA would do to the Griz with your weak secondary and SSH starting.

The other loss was to a FBS team.

Your speculation that the games against NAU would be different had they been played at different times is not based on any reality.

The Cats give up 52 points and 567 yards to SFA, and you blame your back up qb? Now that's pretty funny.

That is funny coming from someone who blamed ALL OF LAST YEAR on the back up QB!! The hypocrisy of you Griz fans is Funny!! :thumb:

No hypocrisy here.

Well then apparently they don't teach the meaning of "hypocrisy" at UM... which is kind of par for the course I guess!

Settle down little brother... there is a lot of football left in this season!! And with your pretty uniform combos and big ass stadium, the griz will at least look good when defending the red zone....

 

[PlayerRep]

The Cats give up 52 points and 567 yards to SFA, and you blame your back up qb? Now that's pretty funny.

That is funny coming from someone who blamed ALL OF LAST YEAR on the back up QB!! The hypocrisy of you Griz fans is Funny!! :thumb:

No hypocrisy here.

Well then apparently they don't teach the meaning of "hypocrisy" at UM... which is kind of par for the course I guess!

Settle down little brother... there is a lot of football left in this season!!

Just as I thought. All troll. Zero substance. You're getting quite a reputation on egriz.

 

[Chester Cheetah]

Cats did not let nau inside the 25. That is how you win games!! But keep puffing yourself up with stats. The only stat that is important right now is 2-0.

Cats have 2 losses, including to a bad team. UM has 1 loss. Keep dreaming that the Cats are a great team this year. They either aren't or haven't shown it yet. NAU would have beaten the Cats if they had played at NAU a week ago, and the Griz would have beaten NAU had they played them yesterday. Monmouth, Colo Mesa and SMU (their only win is against the Cats).

That loss to a bad team was a loss to the top passing offense in the nation, and the Cats played their backup QB in that game to. I really have to wonder what SFA would do to the Griz with your weak secondary and SSH starting.

The other loss was to a FBS team.

Your speculation that the games against NAU would be different had they been played at different times is not based on any reality.

The Cats give up 52 points and 567 yards to SFA, and you blame your back up qb? Now that's pretty funny.

do you not read? or just cant think rationally? I made it bigger for you since you don't seem to be able to do either.

The Cats have sustained a huge number of injuries early in the season and have still been able to put themselves in a very good position at this point in the season.

 

[Htowngriz]

I think the conference only stats are a better indicator of where teams are at so far.

SCORING OFFENSE

1. Montana State 2 13 3 12 0 0 0 99 49.5
2. Eastern Washington 1 6 0 5 0 0 0 41 41.0
3. Cal Poly 1 5 1 5 0 0 0 38 38.0
4. Montana 2 9 3 8 0 0 0 71 35.5
5. Sacramento State 2 9 2 8 0 0 0 68 34.0
6. Portland State 2 9 0 7 0 0 0 61 30.5
7. UC Davis 2 6 3 6 0 0 0 51 25.5
8. North Dakota 2 7 0 6 0 0 0 48 24.0
9. Northern Colorado 2 6 0 6 0 0 0 42 21.0
10. Northern Arizona 2 5 2 5 0 0 0 41 20.5
11. Idaho State 2 4 3 3 1 0 0 38 19.0
12. Southern Utah 2 3 3 3 0 0 0 30 15.0
13. Weber State 2 3 1 1 0 0 0 22 11.0

TOTAL DEFENSE

1. Montana State 2 229 253 121 482 4.0 2 241.0
2. Eastern Washington 1 109 140 68 249 3.7 3 249.0
3. Sacramento State 2 189 431 127 620 4.9 3 310.0
4. UC Davis 2 157 495 148 652 4.4 1 326.0
5. Southern Utah 2 203 462 133 665 5.0 6 332.5
6. Northern Arizona 2 331 379 137 710 5.2 5 355.0
7. Idaho State 2 364 465 137 829 6.1 5 414.5
8. Northern Colorado 2 254 581 161 835 5.2 8 417.5
9. Weber State 2 370 505 142 875 6.2 10 437.5
10. Montana 2 264 663 143 927 6.5 6 463.5
11. Cal Poly 1 185 302 67 487 7.3 5 487.0
North Dakota 2 338 636 168 974 5.8 11 487.0
13. Portland State 2 809 290 168 1099 6.5 11 549.5



SCORING DEFENSE

1. UC Davis 2 1 3 1 0 0 0 16 8.0
2. Sacramento State 2 3 1 3 0 0 0 24 12.0
3. Montana State 2 4 0 3 0 0 0 27 13.5
4. Eastern Washington 1 3 0 1 0 0 0 19 19.0
5. Southern Utah 2 6 0 6 0 0 0 42 21.0
6. Northern Arizona 2 6 4 4 0 0 0 52 26.0
7. Idaho State 2 7 3 7 0 0 0 58 29.0
8. Montana 2 8 2 7 0 0 0 61 30.5
9. Northern Colorado 2 8 3 7 0 0 0 64 32.0
10. Cal Poly 1 5 0 4 0 0 0 34 34.0
11. Weber State 2 10 1 9 0 0 0 72 36.0
12. North Dakota 2 12 1 11 1 0 0 88 44.0
13. Portland State 2 12 3 12 0 0 0 93 46.5


PASS DEFENSE

1. Montana State 2 32 66 2 48.5 253 3.8 1 126.5
2. Eastern Washington 1 17 27 1 63.0 140 5.2 1 140.0
3. Portland State 2 18 42 1 42.9 290 6.9 6 145.0
4. Northern Arizona 2 26 59 1 44.1 379 6.4 2 189.5
5. Sacramento State 2 32 63 1 50.8 431 6.8 1 215.5
6. Southern Utah 2 42 68 2 61.8 462 6.8 3 231.0
7. Idaho State 2 36 58 2 62.1 465 8.0 2 232.5
8. UC Davis 2 48 95 3 50.5 495 5.2 1 247.5
9. Weber State 2 47 64 3 73.4 505 7.9 8 252.5
10. Northern Colorado 2 54 77 1 70.1 581 7.5 5 290.5
11. Cal Poly 1 16 32 1 50.0 302 9.4 4 302.0
12. North Dakota 2 62 95 3 65.3 636 6.7 5 318.0
13. Montana 2 47 72 4 65.3 663 9.2 4 331.5


RUSHING DEFENSE

1. UC Davis 2 53 157 3.0 0 78.5
2. Sacramento State 2 64 189 3.0 2 94.5
3. Southern Utah 2 65 203 3.1 3 101.5
4. Eastern Washington 1 41 109 2.7 2 109.0
5. Montana State 2 55 229 4.2 1 114.5
6. Northern Colorado 2 84 254 3.0 3 127.0
7. Montana 2 71 264 3.7 2 132.0
8. Northern Arizona 2 78 331 4.2 3 165.5
9. North Dakota 2 73 338 4.6 6 169.0
10. Idaho State 2 79 364 4.6 3 182.0
11. Weber State 2 78 370 4.7 2 185.0
Cal Poly 1 35 185 5.3 1 185.0
13. Portland State 2 126 809 6.4 5 404.5

This is cute.

You guys were similar stat juggernauts in 2011 when we curb stomped you. :lol:

Yes, you did. But you had a LOT better D in 2011.

Really? We gave up just under 20 points per game that season, which is EXACTLY what we're allowing so far this year. Our secondary was much better, I'll give you that much.

 

[theobserver]

That is funny coming from someone who blamed ALL OF LAST YEAR on the back up QB!! The hypocrisy of you Griz fans is Funny!! :thumb:

No hypocrisy here.

Well then apparently they don't teach the meaning of "hypocrisy" at UM... which is kind of par for the course I guess!

Settle down little brother... there is a lot of football left in this season!!

Just as I thought. All troll. Zero substance. You're getting quite a reputation on egriz.

geeezzzz Little Bro.... I don't want to keep reminding you but if you insist!!.... The ONLY stat that REALLY matters today is 2-0

 

[Htowngriz]

Cats have 2 losses, including to a bad team. UM has 1 loss. Keep dreaming that the Cats are a great team this year. They either aren't or haven't shown it yet. NAU would have beaten the Cats if they had played at NAU a week ago, and the Griz would have beaten NAU had they played them yesterday. Monmouth, Colo Mesa and SMU (their only win is against the Cats).

That loss to a bad team was a loss to the top passing offense in the nation, and the Cats played their backup QB in that game to. I really have to wonder what SFA would do to the Griz with your weak secondary and SSH starting.

The other loss was to a FBS team.

Your speculation that the games against NAU would be different had they been played at different times is not based on any reality.

The Cats give up 52 points and 567 yards to SFA, and you blame your back up qb? Now that's pretty funny.

do you not read? or just cant think rationally? I made it bigger for you since you don't seem to be able to do either.

The Cats have sustained a huge number of injuries early in the season and have still been able to put themselves in a very good position at this point in the season.

The Griz held one of the top rushing offenses in the country to just over 100 yards, and all we hear about is how bad our defense is. Care to explain that?

 

[PlayerRep]

Cats have 2 losses, including to a bad team. UM has 1 loss. Keep dreaming that the Cats are a great team this year. They either aren't or haven't shown it yet. NAU would have beaten the Cats if they had played at NAU a week ago, and the Griz would have beaten NAU had they played them yesterday. Monmouth, Colo Mesa and SMU (their only win is against the Cats).

That loss to a bad team was a loss to the top passing offense in the nation, and the Cats played their backup QB in that game to. I really have to wonder what SFA would do to the Griz with your weak secondary and SSH starting.

The other loss was to a FBS team.

Your speculation that the games against NAU would be different had they been played at different times is not based on any reality.

The Cats give up 52 points and 567 yards to SFA, and you blame your back up qb? Now that's pretty funny.

do you not read? or just cant think rationally? I made it bigger for you since you don't seem to be able to do either.

The Cats have sustained a huge number of injuries early in the season and have still been able to put themselves in a very good position at this point in the season.

The point being discussed is why you blamed your back up qb for a loss, 52 points and 367 yards. Can you address that? Yes, SFA has a super passing attack. SFA is also no. 2 in total offense. Note that PSU, whom UM just clobbered, is no. 3 in total offense and 12th in passing.

If you're going to blame the SFA passing offense for the Cat loss, here's another question for you. How did Weber, which, in the Big Sky, is dead last in scoring defense, total defense, pass defense, and rush defense, beat SFA, when the Cats couldn't?

Could you please stop avoiding the issues and answer the questions?

 

[nzone]

theobserever=chihuahua. A constant nuisance tugging at ones pants leg thinking its big and smart until it gets bitch slapped. Result: ends up tucking its tail, whimpering, and hiding.

 

[Chester Cheetah]

Nope, conference only stats are not meaningful early in the conference season (only 2 games). At this point of the season, the full season stats with 5/6 games) are clearly more meaningful.

In the categories listed above for the full season, the Cats are: no. 2 in scoring offense (behind UM), no. 2 in total defense, no. 4 in scoring defense (behind UM), no. 7 in pass defense (behind UM), and no. 3 in rush defense (behind UM).

Talk about cherry picking stats. I also point out that the stats I first posted above, were posted without commentary. They are what they are. No comment was made to say how good the Griz D is or isn't. No comparison was made to the Cats. Then insecure Cat posters had to attack the stats, and not pick out 2 games of stats when there are 6 available. The level of insecurity among some Cat fans is very significant.

You are wrong there, first of all neither group of stats are very useful until later in the season, but at this point the conf only stats are better with only a couple of games than the full stats are. The reason is that some teams have played 2 FBS games, some have played 2 DII games and everywhere else the quality of non conference opponent is too varied to give any useful data for comparison purposes.

This early in the season you really should refrain from placing any weight on the stats and ranking, each game should really be considered in its own little bubble. If you are going to go to statistical ranking you should stick with those that provide the most common level of opponent which is the conference only stats.

 

[Htowngriz]

Nope, conference only stats are not meaningful early in the conference season (only 2 games). At this point of the season, the full season stats with 5/6 games) are clearly more meaningful.

In the categories listed above for the full season, the Cats are: no. 2 in scoring offense (behind UM), no. 2 in total defense, no. 4 in scoring defense (behind UM), no. 7 in pass defense (behind UM), and no. 3 in rush defense (behind UM).

Talk about cherry picking stats. I also point out that the stats I first posted above, were posted without commentary. They are what they are. No comment was made to say how good the Griz D is or isn't. No comparison was made to the Cats. Then insecure Cat posters had to attack the stats, and not pick out 2 games of stats when there are 6 available. The level of insecurity among some Cat fans is very significant.

You are wrong there, first of all neither group of stats are very useful until later in the season, but at this point the conf only stats are better with only a couple of games than the full stats are. The reason is that some teams have played 2 FBS games, some have played 2 DII games and everywhere else the quality of non conference opponent is too varied to give any useful data for comparison purposes.

This early in the season you really should refrain from placing any weight on the stats and ranking, each game should really be considered in its own little bubble. If you are going to go to statistical ranking you should stick with those that provide the most common level of opponent which is the conference only stats.

2 games is not a large enough sample size. Period.

 

[Chester Cheetah]

Nope, conference only stats are not meaningful early in the conference season (only 2 games). At this point of the season, the full season stats with 5/6 games) are clearly more meaningful.

In the categories listed above for the full season, the Cats are: no. 2 in scoring offense (behind UM), no. 2 in total defense, no. 4 in scoring defense (behind UM), no. 7 in pass defense (behind UM), and no. 3 in rush defense (behind UM).

Talk about cherry picking stats. I also point out that the stats I first posted above, were posted without commentary. They are what they are. No comment was made to say how good the Griz D is or isn't. No comparison was made to the Cats. Then insecure Cat posters had to attack the stats, and not pick out 2 games of stats when there are 6 available. The level of insecurity among some Cat fans is very significant.

You are wrong there, first of all neither group of stats are very useful until later in the season, but at this point the conf only stats are better with only a couple of games than the full stats are. The reason is that some teams have played 2 FBS games, some have played 2 DII games and everywhere else the quality of non conference opponent is too varied to give any useful data for comparison purposes.

This early in the season you really should refrain from placing any weight on the stats and ranking, each game should really be considered in its own little bubble. If you are going to go to statistical ranking you should stick with those that provide the most common level of opponent which is the conference only stats.

2 games is not a large enough sample size. Period.

You must have a reading disability too

 

[PlayerRep]

Nope, conference only stats are not meaningful early in the conference season (only 2 games). At this point of the season, the full season stats with 5/6 games) are clearly more meaningful.

In the categories listed above for the full season, the Cats are: no. 2 in scoring offense (behind UM), no. 2 in total defense, no. 4 in scoring defense (behind UM), no. 7 in pass defense (behind UM), and no. 3 in rush defense (behind UM).

Talk about cherry picking stats. I also point out that the stats I first posted above, were posted without commentary. They are what they are. No comment was made to say how good the Griz D is or isn't. No comparison was made to the Cats. Then insecure Cat posters had to attack the stats, and not pick out 2 games of stats when there are 6 available. The level of insecurity among some Cat fans is very significant.

You are wrong there, first of all neither group of stats are very useful until later in the season, but at this point the conf only stats are better with only a couple of games than the full stats are. The reason is that some teams have played 2 FBS games, some have played 2 DII games and everywhere else the quality of non conference opponent is too varied to give any useful data for comparison purposes.

This early in the season you really should refrain from placing any weight on the stats and ranking, each game should really be considered in its own little bubble. If you are going to go to statistical ranking you should stick with those that provide the most common level of opponent which is the conference only stats.

2 games is not a large enough sample size. Period.

You must have a reading disability too

First, stats are in fact meaningful after 6 games. In any event, stats for 6 games are much more meaningful than 2 games, especially 2 cherry-picked games. You must not have taken a stats course or understand stats. Where's your substance man? Can't you be anything more than a troll with one-liners? Man up.

 

[theobserver]

theobserever=chihuahua. A constant nuisance tugging at ones pants leg thinking its big and smart until it gets bitch slapped. Result: ends up tucking its tail, whimpering, and hiding.

Looks as if the griz were a bunch of chihuahua'a at NAU....

Again - thank the Cats for saving face for all of Montana on their clubbing of NAU... If MSU has to continue cleaning up after the Griz, we might as well call it the "MONTANA REDEMPTION TOUR"... :thumb:

I wonder if that dude has anymore t-shirts available....

 

[B_Kross]

theobserever=chihuahua. A constant nuisance tugging at ones pants leg thinking its big and smart until it gets bitch slapped. Result: ends up tucking its tail, whimpering, and hiding.

Looks as if the griz were a bunch of chihuahua'a at NAU....

Again - thank the Cats for saving face for all of Montana on their clubbing of NAU... If MSU has to continue cleaning up after the Griz, we might as well call it the "MONTANA REDEMPTION TOUR"... :thumb:

I wonder if that dude has anymore t-shirts available....

Don't you have school to go to?

 

[Htowngriz]

theobserever=chihuahua. A constant nuisance tugging at ones pants leg thinking its big and smart until it gets bitch slapped. Result: ends up tucking its tail, whimpering, and hiding.

Looks as if the griz were a bunch of chihuahua'a at NAU....

Again - thank the Cats for saving face for all of Montana on their clubbing of NAU... If MSU has to continue cleaning up after the Griz, we might as well call it the "MONTANA REDEMPTION TOUR"... :thumb:

I wonder if that dude has anymore t-shirts available....

You really need to get a life. :loser: :msugrad:

 

[theobserver]

theobserever=chihuahua. A constant nuisance tugging at ones pants leg thinking its big and smart until it gets bitch slapped. Result: ends up tucking its tail, whimpering, and hiding.

Looks as if the griz were a bunch of chihuahua'a at NAU....

Again - thank the Cats for saving face for all of Montana on their clubbing of NAU... If MSU has to continue cleaning up after the Griz, we might as well call it the "MONTANA REDEMPTION TOUR"... :thumb:

I wonder if that dude has anymore t-shirts available....

Don't you have school to go to?

C'mon - give me that one as being just a "bit clever"..... "Montana Redemption Tour".... :lol:

 

[theobserver]

theobserever=chihuahua. A constant nuisance tugging at ones pants leg thinking its big and smart until it gets bitch slapped. Result: ends up tucking its tail, whimpering, and hiding.

Looks as if the griz were a bunch of chihuahua'a at NAU....

Again - thank the Cats for saving face for all of Montana on their clubbing of NAU... If MSU has to continue cleaning up after the Griz, we might as well call it the "MONTANA REDEMPTION TOUR"... :thumb:

I wonder if that dude has anymore t-shirts available....

Don't you have school to go to?

C'mon Little Brother - give me that one as being just a "bit clever"..... "Montana Redemption Tour".... :lol: