UM has 'enrollment problem,' Engstrom tells regents

[SoldierCat]

I think we all know why there's been a significant drop in enrollment. We had a bad year in 2011 and it carried over to 2012. I also believe people find engineering extremely profitable nowadays. However, UM is still going to be the state leader for academics. This is a temporary lull. I think we will be seeing the resurgence in enrollement come next fall. UM is world class. Not only that, but the campus, the professors, and the environment are 10 times superior to Bozeman. No offense to them. The drop in enrollment is not a result of Engstrom being president in any way...that's just foolish talk.

Royce?

UM is not world class.. the latest Forbes rankings have UM listed pretty pathetically. I think it was listed as 400+ in academic ranking. That's not much ahead of Boise State, a trucker college. MSU was far ahead of UM, if memory serves correct. UM turns out too many senseless degrees where there is zero employment opportunities. MSU and Tech are kicking UMs ass in putting people in jobs, especially keeping kids in-state.

^^ This ^^ Wasn't gonna say anything, means more when coming from a griz fan!

 

[tnt]

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Tech us kicking everbodies ass. Whos the prez??????

 

[GrizRanger]

UM does not have an "enrollment problem"; it has a "leadership problem".

Engstrom has been a disaster from the moment he took over at Main Hall.

This is one alumnus who would not give a dime to my alma mater until some serious changes are made.

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You hit the nail squarely on the head grizfromhel (ena I hope)! Engstrom is clearly the problem, and the Board of Regents is also the problem, since they put that incompetent idiot in charge of UM.

I agree, as an alum, I also will not give a penny to my alma mater until changes are made.

 

[Spanky]

GrizRanger....I would bet that you will be saving your money for many years before the Amish Guy is gone. He still has a couple of buildings to be named after him before he leaves.

 

[rimrockgriz]

http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2014/full-list-of-schools

Tech us kicking everbodies ass. Whos the prez??????

On an earlier blog this spring I had zabs coming out of the woodwork telling me tech wasn't a tough school... :roll: :roll: :egriz:

 

[biga75]

GrizRanger....I would bet that you will be saving your money for many years before the Amish Guy is gone. He still has a couple of buildings to be named after him before he leaves.

It really scares me to think how spot on you may be. rotesst:

 

[GrizLA]

No I wasn't saying that at all. I was saying that it would be wise to develop some type of curriculum that takes some advantage of the regional economic activity, and maybe a little less on courses that students aren't getting jobs in...

Badlands is correct. UM offers apx 40 to 50 degrees including ones such as Environmental Studies, African-American Studies, Native American Studies, Women's Studies, and Theater & Dance. While each may have merit to be 'studied' none offer much of an actual career to the student pursuing these degrees. The U also offers an "Energy Technology" degree. Though it describes likely careers as in Environmental Assessment, Renewal Energy Technology, Wind Technician, Solar Installers, and Bio-Fuel Management. Do you see a trend here?

The 'other' traditional energy business is actually the second leading industry in the State. You would think the University of Montana would seek a program compatible with the needs of oil & gas and coal industries. Instead we have the Univ. sponsoring anti-fossil fuel rallies which seek to obstruct the very businesses which help support the state and the university.
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UM looks to the future and thank goodness for that!

If the future of UM is offering programs that can't get their graduates jobs, than their future isn't looking so bright! Thank you GrizLA for adding such valuable insight into this convo. The world which was once so dark and scary is now much brighter thanks to the beacon of the future that is GrizLA

You're welcome there, Dakota...I appreciate it.

 

[GrizLA]

No I wasn't saying that at all. I was saying that it would be wise to develop some type of curriculum that takes some advantage of the regional economic activity, and maybe a little less on courses that students aren't getting jobs in, but than again there's always those people like you that are contempt taking those BS courses and living on Higgins in an alley off government funded programs draining our country financially, and not doing anything productive for your country. Furthermore I can tell you know nothing about the region you are attempting to criticize by your one sentence alone. Many of the people out here are extremely successful businessman, engineers and political figures that accomplish more before 8AM than you likely will your entire life. Maybe you should visit the places you criticize before you cast the first stone, than again I thought you would already know this beings your SO CULTURED and everything.

this very poorly written paragraph makes for a pretty good argument in favor of universities requiring 'liberal arts' courses like english 101 for everyone.

(please spare everyone the grammar comment)

I wasn't aware that this board requires everyone's responses to be written in a professional, grammer error free manner. I'll make sure to proof read all of my egriz postings from here on out!

"grammar" You're welcome.

 

[rimrockgriz]

On a "football" board.. spelling, etc. are tongue in cheek. Any comment from LA is considered pure "libtard" and unsustainable. How is my spelling d-bag??? W.G.A.F. :egriz:

 

[GrizLA]

On a "football" board.. spelling, etc. are tongue in cheek. Any comment from LA is considered pure "libtard" and unsustainable. How is my spelling d-bag??? W.G.A.F. :egriz:

Well, if you have to ask...