U.S. DOE investigating UM Football

[ranco]

Just my opinion, but every new sentence I read about this "investigation by the feds" increases the stench. This is a big hunting expedition from the DOJ and Eric Holder on behalf of the Obama Administration---and the purported benificiaries are a. college students and b. women--------both big targets in the campaign which is well under way. Nothing of any consequence is being undertaken by the Obama Administration at this point which is not related to the goal of re-elected BO. And this just fits right in.

Who cares if a competent athletic director and football coach get thrown under the bus by a scared and weak-kneed administrator who wants to deflect criticism from himself. So be it. The DOJ and the feds will savor their role as the white knights and the Obama Administration will set itself up for another four years.

Oh, by the way, does anybody know who Obama's campaign manager is and where he went to school??

Actually, i'ts probably Bill Clinton's fault. He seemed pretty fond of the Mo Club when he was here last, probably came back. 80 sexual assualts over three years seems about par for'em.

 

[dsetay]

Before we eventually get to alien landing coverups and the shooter on the grassy knoll, perhaps we could consider that the investigations are an obligatory response to the lawsuit that was just filed. It is quite possible that not everything we disagree with is the result of a mass conspiracy. But, maybe that's just what the CIA wants us to think. Be careful. They're watching you.

 

[PlayerRep]

Note the last sentence of the second to last para of the below quote, which I will also quote here ("But why rape in Missoula, Montana warrants federal intervention is something of a mystery -- a mystery, that is, unless one recalls that Mr. Holder's boss is trying to make the fictitious "War on Women" a political issue for November's showdown.").

"It seems that the Department of Justice is going to launch a probe of rapes in that hotbed of crime, the campus of the University of Montana at Missoula. Attorney General Holder says he is disturbed by the incidence of rape and the way rape investigations have been handled (or not handled). But

Local authorities said the incidence of rape in Missoula, a western Montana city of 86,000 people, is on par with similarly sized college towns, and the county's chief prosecutor questioned the justice department's rationale for its inquiry.

The investigation comes in the midst of an election year in which women's issues have moved to the forefront as candidates seek to burnish their credentials among female voters.

The justice department probe will examine the inner workings of the university's public safety office, the Missoula Police Department and the Missoula County Attorney's Office.

Rape is an awful crime and, in the most extreme instances, should be death-eligible, our Supreme Court notwithstanding. But why rape in Missoula, Montana warrants federal intervention is something of a mystery -- a mystery, that is, unless one recalls that Mr. Holder's boss is trying to make the fictitious "War on Women" a political issue for November's showdown.

Maybe DOJ should bring in another liberal huckster who wanted to enlist rape to help him win re-election. Mike Nifong, your career's not quite over."

http://www.crimeandconsequences.com/crimblog/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[PlayerRep]

Here's a prime example of this poster not being classy and sane. Why is it that when someone says Obama may be pushing for favor with females, that the response asks why are you saying no player or administrator never did anything wrong? The two things have nothing to do with each. getgrizzy seems to have a thing for this poster, I see. I guess it's just Bobcat love.

it was humor and damn good humor at that. nothing unclassy or insane about it. do you need your head examined? this story doesn't have and won't have any national traction. it was a one day wonder. if you think obama is using it to gain favor with females, you've either completely lost it or you're an extreme right-wing ball-washer or both.

Most of his post wasn't humorous at all. Trash. The Obama administration will use the investigation to show its support for women's issues. It's the national press that started pointing out what I said. Why can't you accept reality?

just because you don't get it, doesn't mean it's not a joke. look around. everyone is laughing, except you and now at you. you won't hear a significant word about this backwater issue after friday. you're like a drug addict. no matter how bad this is making you feel, you keep saying it's ok, it's ok. :lol: get help.

I see that you know even less about politics than you do about athletics.

 

[grizatwork]

Note the last sentence of the second to last para of the below quote, which I will also quote here ("But why rape in Missoula, Montana warrants federal intervention is something of a mystery -- a mystery, that is, unless one recalls that Mr. Holder's boss is trying to make the fictitious "War on Women" a political issue for November's showdown.").

"It seems that the Department of Justice is going to launch a probe of rapes in that hotbed of crime, the campus of the University of Montana at Missoula. Attorney General Holder says he is disturbed by the incidence of rape and the way rape investigations have been handled (or not handled). But

Local authorities said the incidence of rape in Missoula, a western Montana city of 86,000 people, is on par with similarly sized college towns, and the county's chief prosecutor questioned the justice department's rationale for its inquiry.

The investigation comes in the midst of an election year in which women's issues have moved to the forefront as candidates seek to burnish their credentials among female voters.

The justice department probe will examine the inner workings of the university's public safety office, the Missoula Police Department and the Missoula County Attorney's Office.

Rape is an awful crime and, in the most extreme instances, should be death-eligible, our Supreme Court notwithstanding. But why rape in Missoula, Montana warrants federal intervention is something of a mystery -- a mystery, that is, unless one recalls that Mr. Holder's boss is trying to make the fictitious "War on Women" a political issue for November's showdown.

Maybe DOJ should bring in another liberal huckster who wanted to enlist rape to help him win re-election. Mike Nifong, your career's not quite over."

http://www.crimeandconsequences.com/crimblog/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So are you actually quoting a conservative blogger's opinion as fact for the reason for the investigation? Just curious. The last two paragraphs are not part of any article but appearantly the opinion of this blogger as to the reason for the investigation.

 

[helenaumfan]

DOE not investigating, and the Missoulian link is dead.

http://www.kpax.com/news/dept-of-education-um-sexual-assault-complaint-not-under-investigation/

 

[tnt]

The problem here is that this investigation is NOT happening (yet anyway) The Missoulian has the cart before the horse. I'll bet a nickle they don't print a retraction though.....


http://www.kpax.com/news/dept-of-education-um-sexual-assault-complaint-not-under-investigation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

['68griz]

Interesting turn of events. I never even got to see the Missoulian story.

 

[PlayerRep]

Note the last sentence of the second to last para of the below quote, which I will also quote here ("But why rape in Missoula, Montana warrants federal intervention is something of a mystery -- a mystery, that is, unless one recalls that Mr. Holder's boss is trying to make the fictitious "War on Women" a political issue for November's showdown.").

"It seems that the Department of Justice is going to launch a probe of rapes in that hotbed of crime, the campus of the University of Montana at Missoula. Attorney General Holder says he is disturbed by the incidence of rape and the way rape investigations have been handled (or not handled). But

Local authorities said the incidence of rape in Missoula, a western Montana city of 86,000 people, is on par with similarly sized college towns, and the county's chief prosecutor questioned the justice department's rationale for its inquiry.

The investigation comes in the midst of an election year in which women's issues have moved to the forefront as candidates seek to burnish their credentials among female voters.

The justice department probe will examine the inner workings of the university's public safety office, the Missoula Police Department and the Missoula County Attorney's Office.

Rape is an awful crime and, in the most extreme instances, should be death-eligible, our Supreme Court notwithstanding. But why rape in Missoula, Montana warrants federal intervention is something of a mystery -- a mystery, that is, unless one recalls that Mr. Holder's boss is trying to make the fictitious "War on Women" a political issue for November's showdown.

Maybe DOJ should bring in another liberal huckster who wanted to enlist rape to help him win re-election. Mike Nifong, your career's not quite over."

http://www.crimeandconsequences.com/crimblog/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So are you actually quoting a conservative blogger's opinion as fact for the reason for the investigation? Just curious. The last two paragraphs are not part of any article but appearantly the opinion of this blogger as to the reason for the investigation.

I first quoted Reuters, which is now being picked up by many organizations like Yahoo. I then quoted this website.

Did you look at DOJ's press release? Lots and lots of rambling about protecting women and their rights. Seemed to go a bit overboard to me. http://www.justice.gov/crt/opa/pr/speeches/2012/crt-speech-1205011.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Perez is an Ivy league boy. Brown and Harvard law school. Better watch out for him.

 

[Growler1]

Over reach by a federal govt DOJ that is dripping with integrity. Lets see, Fast and Furious, a Black Panther Party threatening citizens (DOJ doesn't respond), Sueing the State of Arizona for their constitutionally valid attempts to deal with illegal immigration, etc...Who the hell are these 'white knights' coming into town to right the ship? Just wondering.

Great post! The left wants a nanny state, and if Obamination gets elected again, we are doomed to have just that!

 

[Growler1]

yeah, it's obama's fault. yeah, that's it, that's the ticket. excuse me, gwen florio? you're free to move about the country. royce who? he didn't do anything wrong. the msla police? no. even the victims aren't to blame anymore. we've got obama to blame!!! :clap: :thumb:

But Obama said it was Dub-ya's fault! Who are we to believe???

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

yeah, it's obama's fault. yeah, that's it, that's the ticket. excuse me, gwen florio? you're free to move about the country. royce who? he didn't do anything wrong. the msla police? no. even the victims aren't to blame anymore. we've got obama to blame!!! :clap: :thumb:

But Obama said it was Dub-ya's fault! Who are we to believe???

...considering we had very little to no debt before Dub-ya got into office....I DUNNO! AHHHHHH!

 

[wbtfg]

This just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

It looks like the Missoulian (online) pulled the story about the DOE investigation. I'm not sure if Florio printed an incorrect story or what, but the missoulian link is now dead.


What a circus....

 

[Proud Griz Man]

This just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

It looks like the Missoulian (online) pulled the story about the DOE investigation. I'm not sure if Florio printed an incorrect story or what, but the missoulian link is now dead.


What a circus....

Or maybe Glo Flo & and Missoulian prematurely published the article.
Somewhat like you prematurely making those "we beat the fg" t-shirts in 1997.
Speaking of those shirts; I'll take an XL. :lol:

 

[wbtfg]

This just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

It looks like the Missoulian (online) pulled the story about the DOE investigation. I'm not sure if Florio printed an incorrect story or what, but the missoulian link is now dead.


What a circus....

Or maybe Glo Flo & and Missoulian prematurely published the article.
Somewhat like you prematurely making those "we beat the fg" t-shirts in 1997.
Speaking of those shirts; I'll take an XL. :lol:

Haha...I didn't make them, and I think it was in 99, not 97.

 

[grizfromhel]

Again just my opinion. All of us were stunned when the "firings" of the athletic director and football coach were announced. They made no sense.

Now the fog is beginning to lift. Royce Engstrom got tipped that the federal investigation was coming down. He needed to do something dramatic to show contrition and compliance to the feds, and take the heat off the President's own actions. Dump the athletic director and the coach and hope the DOJ Gods would be sated.

Question is who wanted this federal investigation in the first place, and appealed to the most politicized agency in the federal bureaucracy, Eric Holder's Justice Department, to come in? I have my own ideas, what are yours??

 

[tnt]

Again just my opinion. All of us were stunned when the "firings" of the athletic director and football coach were announced. They made no sense.

I know this isn't popular opinion on eGriz, but to fair, there were a fair number of folks who couldn't believe the firings took so long and should have started when Hauck was still here.

There were those who were somewhat stunned that King George (or his athletic Director) took no action when a Kaiman reporter asked about possible "special attention" and was answered with a number of Fbombs during a public press conference.

But then I was stunned when both were hired.

The fact is there will be those who are stunned with every action of a behemoth like our university.

 

[grizzpaw]

it's funny ALL the headlines say "investigation", but when you read what the feds are saying it's more of a review of the way sexual assults are reported and acted on by the police and um. :?:

 

[Grizzoola]

yeah, it's obama's fault. yeah, that's it, that's the ticket. excuse me, gwen florio? you're free to move about the country. royce who? he didn't do anything wrong. the msla police? no. even the victims aren't to blame anymore. we've got obama to blame!!! :clap: :thumb:

Actually, it's in the national press that the Obama administration is looking for more female votes and taking actions, including perhaps ones like this investigation, to garner female votes. From a reuters article on the recent DOJ investigation in Missoula:

"The investigation comes in the midst of an election year in which women's issues have moved to the forefront as candidates seek to burnish their credentials among female voters."

There's nothing in Obama's campaign that Karl Rove, if he were running a Bush campaign, wouldn't do.

 

[getgrizzy]

it's funny ALL the headlines say "investigation", but when you read what the feds are saying it's more of a review of the way sexual assults are reported and acted on by the police and um. :?:

you're exactly right. the only thing that differentiates the two is that someone sent in a complaint and when you get reviewed you usually know exactly what they will be reviewing and i don't think you get to know that in an investigation.

in the end they'll reveal their findings, give their corrective actions and follow-up to make sure they're put in place. this really isn't a big deal, but if people try to stonewall (like vanvalkenburg is acting) or if they find something is criminal that could all change. the only way i see that happening is if someone blows the whistle. u of m and the city have had ample time to clean up most of their problems.