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Trump Considers Executive Order on College Athlete Payments

Yeah, I'm optimistic. The key will be making sure the commission is void of government bureaucrats making decisions. If the commission is comprised of free enterprise capitalists it will be fruitful. The co chairs are a good sign.
 
SoldierGriz said:
You should stop with the modern-day-slavery crap. Hyperbole and flat-out wrong.

Players were given a free education worth hundred(s) of thousands of dollars without NIL. No one forced anyone to play college sports.

Take a hike and while you're squatting to pee - GFY.
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Was on board until the last sentence
 
nicktaber58 said:
Yeah, I'm optimistic. The key will be making sure the commission is void of government bureaucrats making decisions. If the commission is comprised of free enterprise capitalists it will be fruitful. The co chairs are a good sign.
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To think Trump is going to navigate this incredibly complex, delicate situation is naive. Trump IS the swamp. He is a purely transactional person to the point of being a sociopathic narcissist. He demands total loyalty, while returning none. He does not touch anything unless there is something for him to gain from the situation.
 
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gotgame75 said:
To think Trump is going to navigate this incredibly complex, delicate situation is naive. Trump IS the swamp. He is a purely transactional person to the point of being a sociopathic narcissist. He demands total loyalty, while returning none. He does not touch anything unless there is something for him to gain from the situation.
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If they gave out pulitzer prizes for egriz posts, you should definitely earn one for this profound and enlightening post. Riveting. 🙃

Call me crazy, but I think the president perhaps navigates and deals with far more complex and delicate situations than college sports. Give me a break 😂

He's organizing a commission to study and explore solutions to the obviously broken (or at least dramatically changing) system. The NCAA (governing body) is not doing its job.
 
nicktaber58 said:
Call me crazy, but I think the president perhaps navigates and deals with far more complex and delicate situations than college sports. Give me a break 😂
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You are crazy. Trump is horrible at negotiation. He has never truly learned about leverage and why you should not negotiate against yourself. Just watch, he is backpedaling furiously on his cherished tariffs and the Chinese will steamroll him.
 
goatcreekgriz said:
You are crazy. Trump is horrible at negotiation. He has never truly learned about leverage and why you should not negotiate against yourself. Just watch, he is backpedaling furiously on his cherished tariffs and the Chinese will steamroll him.
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Another pulitzer ☝️. Stacking em on egriz this morning
 
goatcreekgriz said:
You are crazy. Trump is horrible at negotiation. He has never truly learned about leverage and why you should not negotiate against yourself. Just watch, he is backpedaling furiously on his cherished tariffs and the Chinese will steamroll him.
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you are a butthurt loser.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
You know what is super cool about egriz? Its one of the only places we can go on the internet and get away from the CONSTANT political sniping that so consistently livens up all of my social media feeds and news coverage. We should, like, stick with that and stuff.
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The topic of this thread is political. Truth.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
The topic is how politics is getting into NCAA football, not what kind of president trump is. Truth🤮
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No matter the president an executive order isn't going to be effective. Need negotiations between sides and an agreement. NCAA and universities had the leverage for decades. Now that has shifted. If NCAA was smart they would encourage the players to form a union so they have one body to negotiate with. Otherwise it is not sustainable.
 
The composition of the commission is going to generate language and a plan the reflects whomever is on the committee and not all the stakeholders. If it is populated by a bunch of Power 4 conference guys, 80 year old men on their porch and billionaires, and it doesn't include FCS schools, players and academic types you aren't likely going to get a product that is going to serve anyone.

Sort of like if I comprised a commission made up of middle school boys about what the motto or slogan of their class might be, it would be something like "Success? Pfft, cope. Failure? Mega L. But the true sigma grindset is to just... keep spamming that continue button. It do be like that." (Google Gemini rocks)

The best chance for real reform is going to come from the member institutions itself, particularly if you want the type that is going to benefit the rank and file and not the absurdly rich Power 4 schools (like the House Settlement). Commissions can generate great suggestions but it'll be up to Congress and the NCAA to act. That the Co-Chairs are Power 4 conference types doesn't give me hope they'll come to a solution that does anything but a) promote the status quo or b) further isolate power 4 conference schools from the rest of the NCAA.
 
My uneducated view is that an Executive Order, if it's in the general ballpark, could help get things going in the right direction and bring a semblance of order. The plaintiff and antitrust lawyers have had the upper hand for some time now, and they have the ncaa and the schools fearful, hesitant and on the run. I don't know how antitrust law would intersect with an Executive Order. While I don't like government or Congress getting involved generally, due to the antitrust cases and laws, and some judges, I'm thinking that, ultimately, the only thing that works and will stand up in court is an Congressional legislation.

The main parties have completely different views and interests. I just don't see them being able to agree on much.

The upcming settlement, assuming it happens, will bring some order. However, the settlement doesn't seem either to be fair to all constituencies nor does it seem to cover enough of the issues. For one, NIL will be left out there after the settlement.

Big schools, little schools, rich schools, poor schools, players especially big players, athletic departments, the academic side of schools, coaches, non-football sports, non-football and basketball sports, probably big media, etc. would all seem to have different interests.

I don't know what is right or fair. But I don't believe in college players being able to make a large amount of money. I come from the amateur viewpoint. And I believe the big money, NIL, and free transfer with the Portal are generally ruining college sports. College is and should be primarily for education, not for sports, in my view. I follow football and basketball more than the other sports, but I care just as much about the other sports as I do about football and basketball. Actually, maybe more about the other sports.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
The topic is how politics is getting into NCAA football, not what kind of president trump is. Truth🤮
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Bullshit. Trump has no legal authority to issue an executive order to counteract court rulings on antitrust cases against the NCAA. The suggestion that Trump can fix it or negotiate resolution is all about what kind of President he is. It’s all about Trump political posturing in a situation where a free market will eventually shake everything out.
 
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