This team could have the most pro-prospects...

[CDAGRIZ]

"Pro" - playing football for monetary gain beyond the college level.

But what about:

???

 

[Grizzoola]

I intentionally said "pro" instead of NFL because I see some of these guys maybe getting UFL chances or CFL chances. "Pro" - playing football for monetary gain beyond the college level.

Thanks for the clarification. It does change the equation. Still, in that light, you must provide evidence of how many Griz players in past years went into all pro-football ranks. What is that number, so that we can understand what you mean by "most"?

I'm getting the sense that you are hopeful for this next season's team, as we all are. But, when you insert "most" in your title, that signals to me that you're extolling Coach Pflu at the expense of previous coaches, BH among them. You didn't have to do this. Yes, in commentary re: individual players, something like, "This kid is NFL, CFL, etc., material," is fine, but I object to asserting, before there is any better evidence, that a team is going to produce "most pro-prospects." And, that "better evidence" is how the team does in a season. Last season was not "better evidence."

I still believe the NFL is the standard because it's the epitome of football. 5 guys from the 2009 team were invited to NFL minicamps. Let's just see whether 6 or more guys from the 2011 team will be invited. Then, we can talk about "most" pro-prospects.

 

[IdaGriz01]

"Pro" - playing football for monetary gain beyond the college level.

But what about:

???

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh, he's just a Klueless Kid: "I had no idee what daddy was up to." :?:

The NCAA talks a good story ... and slams the little guys regularly ... but caves on most important matters involving big-money BCS programs.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I intentionally said "pro" instead of NFL because I see some of these guys maybe getting UFL chances or CFL chances. "Pro" - playing football for monetary gain beyond the college level.

I'm getting the sense that you are hopeful for this next season's team, as we all are. But, when you insert "most" in your title, that signals to me that you're extolling Coach Pflu at the expense of previous coaches, BH among them.

I thought I was clear on the meaning of "could" but now I wonder if I have been wrong all these years.

 

[restorethegriz]

David 2. For a list of all Griz football players who have played in the pros go to Montanagrizzlies.com and search thru the football stuff and you will find the list you were wondering about. It's in a PDF file.

 

[Grizo406]

But, I think...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nice work, Du! :thumb:

 

[VictorG]

I'm looking forward to Dan Moore at a pro day (or the combine) in 2012. As quick as he is, you'd think teams would have interest in him as a fullback.

Does anyone have Dan Moore's career stats so far? I'm to lazy to look for them but I'm wondering what teams will have to look at that would draw interest to him other than weight room stuff. Just curious.......

 

[Grizzoola]

David 2. For a list of all Griz football players who have played in the pros go to Montanagrizzlies.com and search thru the football stuff and you will find the list you were wondering about. It's in a PDF file.

Thanks for that. Appreciate it. I have a time searching on the official boards. Maybe learn something from this.

 

[Silenoz]

I'm looking forward to Dan Moore at a pro day (or the combine) in 2012. As quick as he is, you'd think teams would have interest in him as a fullback.

Does anyone have Dan Moore's career stats so far? I'm to lazy to look for them but I'm wondering what teams will have to look at that would draw interest to him other than weight room stuff. Just curious.......

Well he's not going to have much in the way of stats as a lead blocker and ST beast. But as a physical specimen + what I'm assuming will be high marks at a pro day, I'll bet he'll garner some attention.

 

[Growler1]

Trumaine is the only player mentioned who has a chance. The offensive linemen are a long way from being NFL quality. In my opinion, they need to make sure they are Big Sky quality first!

 

[Grizzoola]

Trumaine is the only player mentioned who has a chance. The offensive linemen are a long way from being NFL quality. In my opinion, they need to make sure they are Big Sky quality first!

AMEN! :thumb: Said it better than I did in fewer words.

 

[PlayerRep]

At a minimum, McKnight should get a CFL chance, as I assume he's a Canadian citizen.

If Sambrano keeps improving, he could get an NFL look, but also CFL.

 

[zirge]

For discussion sake I think Burton is to slow (I like him but I still think he's to slow and should be at guard) and what has Moore done besides a few carries and special teams? I can't see anyone getting a shot in the NFL (I'm talking NFL not some lesser league) based on special team blocking or tackling. Moore may get a few carries again this year but he's not going to be a feature back in this offense.

We all are entitled to our own opinion.

I don't agree with you on Burton. I've seen him run really well.

And your argument that he is to slow and should be moved to guard doesn't make sense to me either, as guards need to be fast so they can explode upfield, either straight upfield to get on a linebacker in the box or they need to explode outside and then head upfield when they pull...both require speed and agility, so why would you move a slow OL to guard?

My comments came from watching him last year. He seemed to be a step or two slow with the edge rush. People were getting by him on the outside because of this. He might be fine with flat out foot speed as you note but IMO he was slow "in space". Maybe it was just slow reacting............

this was my observation as well, not his best position for his size...........defensive ends were way too fast for him to keep up last year...........just saw it again recently he was beat by the DE that laid out andrew selle in the backfield, i am sure he tried his best but at 300+ it is too hard to keep up the type of DE's that are being produced these days...can you see him up against guys like biermann 250 or mercer 240 think of their speed and strength it is a easy maneuver.......also comes to mind is chris dyk trying to keep that DE from richmond out of our backfield, couldn't do it. too big and too slow to contend with his speed and strength.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

If we're only talking NFL, I would say Trumaine and Middleton are both likely to get very strong looks. Middleton's history will likely prevent him from getting drafted unless he has a jaw dropping year.

The recievers we have intrigue me, but to put it in perspective, Marc Mariani who is arguably our best reciever ever was only a 7th round draft pick and didn't have one reception in the regular season of his rookie year. Lucky for him, he was also an elite returner and special teams player. As much as I like these guys, none of them have the ability of Mariani and none of them project well as returners at the next level. Remember Ramses Barden from Cal Poly? One of the most dominant recievers the Griz has faced and a guy that exceeded all the measurabes of a prototypical NFL reciever. He has had a tough time staying on a roster. Point is that it is very tough to make the NFL as a reciever unless you can differentiate yourself. Hopefully, they prove me wrong.

 

[WaGriz4life]

If we're only talking NFL, I would say Trumaine and Middleton are both likely to get very strong looks. Middleton's history will likely prevent him from getting drafted unless he has a jaw dropping year.

The recievers we have intrigue me, but to put it in perspective, Marc Mariani who is arguably our best reciever ever was only a 7th round draft pick and didn't have one reception in the regular season of his rookie year. Lucky for him, he was also an elite returner and special teams player. As much as I like these guys, none of them have the ability of Mariani and none of them project well as returners at the next level. Remember Ramses Barden from Cal Poly? One of the most dominant recievers the Griz has faced and a guy that exceeded all the measurabes of a prototypical NFL reciever. He has had a tough time staying on a roster. Point is that it is very tough to make the NFL as a reciever unless you can differentiate yourself. Hopefully, they prove me wrong.

Care to explain how Ramses Barden has "had a tough time staying on an NFL roster"? He was drafted in the 3rd round by the Giants and was active last year as a rookie. And he is still on the team.

He has not had a hard time staying on a roster by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

If we're only talking NFL, I would say Trumaine and Middleton are both likely to get very strong looks. Middleton's history will likely prevent him from getting drafted unless he has a jaw dropping year.

The recievers we have intrigue me, but to put it in perspective, Marc Mariani who is arguably our best reciever ever was only a 7th round draft pick and didn't have one reception in the regular season of his rookie year. Lucky for him, he was also an elite returner and special teams player. As much as I like these guys, none of them have the ability of Mariani and none of them project well as returners at the next level. Remember Ramses Barden from Cal Poly? One of the most dominant recievers the Griz has faced and a guy that exceeded all the measurabes of a prototypical NFL reciever. He has had a tough time staying on a roster. Point is that it is very tough to make the NFL as a reciever unless you can differentiate yourself. Hopefully, they prove me wrong.

Care to explain how Ramses Barden has "had a tough time staying on an NFL roster"? He was drafted in the 3rd round by the Giants and was active last year as a rookie. And he is still on the team.

He has not had a hard time staying on a roster by any stretch of the imagination.

He had 5 receptions all year and was the last reciever on the active roster when he was healthy. He will likely be more productive this year. If talents like Mariani and Barden are on the last spots on the ACTIVE roster, that tells you the type of talent one needs to be an NFL calibre reciever.

 

[WaGriz4life]

If we're only talking NFL, I would say Trumaine and Middleton are both likely to get very strong looks. Middleton's history will likely prevent him from getting drafted unless he has a jaw dropping year.

The recievers we have intrigue me, but to put it in perspective, Marc Mariani who is arguably our best reciever ever was only a 7th round draft pick and didn't have one reception in the regular season of his rookie year. Lucky for him, he was also an elite returner and special teams player. As much as I like these guys, none of them have the ability of Mariani and none of them project well as returners at the next level. Remember Ramses Barden from Cal Poly? One of the most dominant recievers the Griz has faced and a guy that exceeded all the measurabes of a prototypical NFL reciever. He has had a tough time staying on a roster. Point is that it is very tough to make the NFL as a reciever unless you can differentiate yourself. Hopefully, they prove me wrong.

Care to explain how Ramses Barden has "had a tough time staying on an NFL roster"? He was drafted in the 3rd round by the Giants and was active last year as a rookie. And he is still on the team.

He has not had a hard time staying on a roster by any stretch of the imagination.

He had 5 receptions all year and was the last reciever on the active roster when he was healthy. He will likely be more productive this year. If talents like Mariani and Barden are on the last spots on the ACTIVE roster, that tells you the type of talent one needs to be an NFL calibre reciever.

I'm not arguing that it isn't difficult to make an NFL team as a WR. Your comments about Barden struggling to stay in the NFL are simply not true at this point. It would be similar to someone saying that Lex Hilliard has struggled to stay on a roster because he is low on the depth chart and gets very little playing time on offense.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

I'm looking forward to Dan Moore at a pro day (or the combine) in 2012. As quick as he is, you'd think teams would have interest in him as a fullback.

Just saw on the NFL Network that National Champion Eastern Washington RB drastically helped his chances of landing in the NFL by running in the low 4.3's at his pro day...visits the 49ers. They showed a clip of him running drills in shorts, the kid is pure lightening in a bottle--couple that with being able to stop on a dime and make change, ala Billy "White Shoes" Johnson. :shock: T Jones speed and ability is rare.

 

[FCS Go!]

Apologies if this has already been posted somewhere....

Justin Roper featured in SI.com article.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/04/21/draft.sleepers/index.html


Edit: Wrong thread I guess, sorry again.

 

[Hammer]

If we're only talking NFL, I would say Trumaine and Middleton are both likely to get very strong looks. Middleton's history will likely prevent him from getting drafted unless he has a jaw dropping year.

The recievers we have intrigue me, but to put it in perspective, Marc Mariani who is arguably our best reciever ever was only a 7th round draft pick and didn't have one reception in the regular season of his rookie year. Lucky for him, he was also an elite returner and special teams player. As much as I like these guys, none of them have the ability of Mariani and none of them project well as returners at the next level. Remember Ramses Barden from Cal Poly? One of the most dominant recievers the Griz has faced and a guy that exceeded all the measurabes of a prototypical NFL reciever. He has had a tough time staying on a roster. Point is that it is very tough to make the NFL as a reciever unless you can differentiate yourself. Hopefully, they prove me wrong.

Care to explain how Ramses Barden has "had a tough time staying on an NFL roster"? He was drafted in the 3rd round by the Giants and was active last year as a rookie. And he is still on the team.

He has not had a hard time staying on a roster by any stretch of the imagination.

Barden had quite a bit of playing time down the stretch last year. He was on the active roster all season (no practice squad). I think he has the potential to start someday. Remember the kid from No Colorado?