This is EXACTLY what I expected

[PlayerRep]

Dexter (and others), outstanding info and analysis. Thx. In my view, there can be no doubt that the fouls and the officiating had a significant impact on the game. The stats absolutely confirm that.

I don't understand why some posters don't want to allow a discussion about the officiating, what occurred, and what impact it had on the game. This is what the message board is for. Almost nobody is blaming the refs for the loss. No one doesn't think that UM should have beaten EWU and had home court advantage. No one doesn't think there is advantage in playing on one's homecourt. Every knows the Griz lost and they and we have to move on. However, that doesn't mean that we can't have a discussion on a message board.

 

[grizonbob]

Yes, this is part of the process of going through the five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. Which is not to say the complaints aren't warranted.

 

[SoCalGriz]

Yes, this is part of the process of going through the five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. Which is not to say the complaints aren't warranted.

There is a truth to what you stated, but my phylosophy is, life is not fair, get over it and move on.
Plain and simple the refs favored NCU this time. Maybe next time it will go our way.

Also I feel some talented players earn favorable calls. For example, Joey Thomas the great corner for the cats was very strong and could hold people all the way down the sideline. He did it effortlessly, thus it did not look like holding. He was talented enough to earn favorable (no) calls. I dont know if that applies to the NCU guard because he was dropping his shoulder so much. But it is hard to deny some great playes will get more favorable calls.

And finally I agree with PR, this is a message board and you should be allowed to make observations. My concern here is how some have trouble with another peson having a contrary opinion.

 

[grizonbob]

Yes, this is part of the process of going through the five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. Which is not to say the complaints aren't warranted.

There is a truth to what you stated, but my phylosophy is, life is not fair, get over it and move on.
Plain and simple the refs favored NCU this time. Maybe next time it will go our way.

Also I feel some talented players earn favorable calls. For example, Joey Thomas the great corner for the cats was very strong and could hold people all the way down the sideline. He did it effortlessly, thus it did not look like holding. He was talented enough to earn favorable (no) calls. I dont know if that applies to the NCU guard because he was dropping his shoulder so much. But it is hard to deny some great playes will get more favorable calls.

And finally I agree with PR, this is a message board and you should be allowed to make observations. My concern here is how some have trouble with another peson having a contrary opinion.

What I said doesn't conflict at all with your observation. In fact, I agree with it all, except for a couple of misspellings. And maybe those can be justified for dramatic effect.

 

[Grizzoola]

As I said, enjoy your 10 minutes of fame before you lose by 20+ in the NCAA, and embarrass the conference. Then, you can assume your customary bottom-dwelling position in the conference next season. :thumb:

Oh, Geezuz H, G1. You have no concept, absolutely none, re: UNC athletics. Too many of you eGrizzers are myopic when it comes to the BSC. Stop putting down UNC. UNC will be a worthy opponent of UM for the BSC championship in both football & basketball for years to come, and UNC going to the NCAAs instead of UM is just the tip of the iceberg.

Fact is, had UM done a better job of taking & making shots, UM would be going. That simple. Even Tinks, himself, said UM did not take open opportunities when it had them. You can't blame biased officiating for UM going cold for 7 min. in the 2nd half. If UM had won, the officiating wouldn't even be mentioned, YOU PHONIES.

No, face up to the fact that UNC & SacSt (football) are going to be challenging powers in the BSC. It could well be that the UM/MSU football game will only have significance for Griz & Bobcat fans. It may well be that the UM football glory days of the 18 years before Pflugrad are over. We shall see, won't we?

BSC championships in either football or basketball are not givens for UM, anymore, much to my regret.

 

[SWeberCat02]

I rarely, if ever, complain about officiating, but watching those games in Greeley I couldn't help but see an obvious officiating bias towards the home team.

 

[gobears2010]

Gobears. Like you, I re- read your previous posts. Conclusion? You are an idiot. Posting 'bad news bears" drivil-dravil on e-griz is similiar to peeing into the wind.

Further, we got out REFd. Plain and simple. You may have a photographic memory but you don't have film!

Actually, I've got the game on my DVR, I watched it last night. I paid special attention to the two plays Dexter mentioned and those are the conclusions I drew.

 

[EverettGriz]

I rarely, if ever, complain about officiating, but watching those games in Greeley I couldn't help but see an obvious officiating bias towards the home team.

Thanks 02. I think this is precisely the point that UM fans are trying to make. People who are reticent to bitch about officiating and who have no connection to either program saw and commented on biased officiating. 99% of us agree that the biased officiating didn't cost the Griz (or NAU) the game, but it was at the very least extremely difficult to overcome.

I've got a good friend (non-Griz) in Denver that knows a lot of UNC grads. A number have told him that while they'd never admit it publicly, they realize they got some serious down-home cookin'. That's good enough for me, frankly. It's just really, really unfortunate that one-sided officiating so greatly impacted what was otherwise two great games. If I were a unc fan, I'd be pissed at the officials, because I'm sure many of them don't feel as satisfied with the win as they would have under normal circumstances. How could they, with such an obvious gray cloud hanging over their victories?

 

[WILDCATFAN]

Its one thing to have one sided officiating in the reg season, but its another thing when it happens in a TOURNAMENT.

 

[Grizzoola]

I still say if UM would have made the shots they had open to them, this discussion would not exist. A coach can do only so much, & I believe Tinkle's plays gave UM every opportunity to exploit it. It's not Tinkle; it's not the refs; it's the players, pure & simple. If UM had won, UNC fans would be complaining about the officiating, also. All good things to UNC, which is representing the BSC in the Big Dance. UNC is the only school representing CO in the Big Dance. THINK ABOUT THAT!

 

[UNDGRIZ]

D2, UNC is not the only school representing CO. Colorado will also be in the tourney.

 

[Potomac Griz]

I still say if UM would have made the shots they had open to them, this discussion would not exist. A coach can do only so much, & I believe Tinkle's plays gave UM every opportunity to exploit it. It's not Tinkle; it's not the refs; it's the players, pure & simple. If UM had won, UNC fans would be complaining about the officiating, also. All good things to UNC, which is representing the BSC in the Big Dance. UNC is the only school representing CO in the Big Dance. THINK ABOUT THAT!

Pretty sure if any team makes the shots they have open to them, they win. That's kind of a Madden statement there... Scoring more points will help you win too

If UM had won that game UNC fans would be complaining about the officiating? I really doubt that... Well... other than their announcer (who complains about every call). Fans of a team that shot 70 free throws over a period of 2 games really would have nothing to complain about... Did you watch either of the games?

I wouldn't be surprised to see Colorado get into the tournament...they don't deserve to, but neither do 11 of the Big East teams... As I've said before, I really don't think any team that can't even manage to be better than .500 in their conference should get an at large bid..

Its one thing to have one sided officiating in the reg season, but its another thing when it happens in a TOURNAMENT.

Exactly... these two games that were horribly one sided in terms of officiating ended the seasons of 2 very good teams, and ended the college careers of some very talented seniors that deserved better than to get screwed like that in their last game. UNC deserved better too. UNC is a very good team perfectly capable of winning the tournament without the refs homering the other teams like that.

 

[bearclawchrislapp]

Ok, the guy that started this thread is a beer or two short of a sixpack, but geez guys, take the high road here.

I am a fan of both schools, but this anal lesion drainage blaming the officiating (again) is childish.

If you are truly winners, act like winners. This drivel degrades your school.

Played a hell of a tough game there Griz, especially on defense. Nobody except extreme ignorants expects you to win every game, every championship, in every sport every time and all the time.

I saw Montana fans at the game standing and applauding the UNC win in the end, think of them guys!

 

[bearclawchrislapp]

Its one thing to have one sided officiating in the reg season, but its another thing when it happens in a TOURNAMENT.

Grow up kid, better yet get a diaper change.

 

[EverettGriz]

Its one thing to have one sided officiating in the reg season, but its another thing when it happens in a TOURNAMENT.

Grow up kid, better yet get a diaper change.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

A little insecure about the fact that so many people thought it was some seriously biased officiating, there lapp?

 

[PlayerRep]

Ok, the guy that started this thread is a beer or two short of a sixpack, but geez guys, take the high road here.

I am a fan of both schools, but this anal lesion drainage blaming the officiating (again) is childish.

If you are truly winners, act like winners. This drivel degrades your school.

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Again, where is posters "blaming the officiating"? Are you even reading the posts?

 

[bearclawchrislapp]

Its one thing to have one sided officiating in the reg season, but its another thing when it happens in a TOURNAMENT.

Grow up kid, better yet get a diaper change.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

A little insecure about the fact that so many people thought it was some seriously biased officiating, there lapp?

Well, you have been quite the cheerleader on that subject, no? :lol:

 

[bearclawchrislapp]

Really classy guys.

:lol:

 

[Potomac Griz]

Its one thing to have one sided officiating in the reg season, but its another thing when it happens in a TOURNAMENT.

Grow up kid, better yet get a diaper change.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

A little insecure about the fact that so many people thought it was some seriously biased officiating, there lapp?

Sure sounds like it.. First he makes a post loaded with straw men arguments like people here are saying we should win every game, every championship, etc etc.. And then insults a fan of another program who thought it was very one sided.

Really classy guys.

:lol:

A person who told a Weber fan who dared to comment on how bad the officiating was to "Change his diaper" and then posts about "anal lesion drainage" talking about class... Wow...

 

[SoCalGriz]

Really classy guys.

:lol:

I feel that a "classy" UNC fan could get on here and admit, the officiating favored UNC on this night. You don't have to make any statements about whether or not if affected the outcome. Simply stating the style of officiating or whatever favored the home team and many Griz fans would move on more quickly. It is also a way of taking the high road and being a good winner.

And please forgive me of my spelling errors, but I am not about to take the time to spell check when there is not one available, especially on a message board or blog etc. I work with electricity and we don't have to write very much. Hopefully I am close enough that you are able to figure it out.