bigkid said:Aint buyin it az................you can sugar coat all you want but the best thng that could happen with the football program is Delaney resign at the end of the season and find a new headcoach. Its obvious he is in way over his head. The look on his face after the fake punt was he never saw it comin......that my friend says it all. The kids played with no sense of urgency and never really seemed to get fired up. That my friend is a lack of leadership at all levels. A must win turned into a non competitve beat down.
AZGrizFan said:bigkid said:Aint buyin it az................you can sugar coat all you want but the best thng that could happen with the football program is Delaney resign at the end of the season and find a new headcoach. Its obvious he is in way over his head. The look on his face after the fake punt was he never saw it comin......that my friend says it all. The kids played with no sense of urgency and never really seemed to get fired up. That my friend is a lack of leadership at all levels. A must win turned into a non competitve beat down.
The head coach has 6-8 assistant coaches, none of whom apparently saw it either...including the ST coach.
stubbins said:AZGrizFan said:bigkid said:Aint buyin it az................you can sugar coat all you want but the best thng that could happen with the football program is Delaney resign at the end of the season and find a new headcoach. Its obvious he is in way over his head. The look on his face after the fake punt was he never saw it comin......that my friend says it all. The kids played with no sense of urgency and never really seemed to get fired up. That my friend is a lack of leadership at all levels. A must win turned into a non competitve beat down.
The head coach has 6-8 assistant coaches, none of whom apparently saw it either...including the ST coach.
ummmm....weren't you the one saying that the head football coach takes the fall for poor decisions?
why would the head coach even allow that formation in practice? When he saw that don't you think he'd say, "ya know, that looks like it would be extremely easy for a quadrapalegic football team to run a fake against"
I'm pretty sure the coaches call plays on purpose. The punt formation was called on purpose and we should accept that we gave the game away on that call because the coaches need time to grow? How old is Delaney? I'm confident that his growth spurt happened some time ago.AZGrizFan said:Screamin_Eagle174 said:I'll give you credit AZ, you're sticking to your "values" this year, unlike 2008 or whenever it was when you were bailing ship after UM got lucky against ISU in pokey. :thumb:
It's just not the end of the world...and certainly not enough to say and post some of the sh*t people are posting about players and coaches. They act like these guys do this shit on purpose. :roll: :roll:
argh! said:AZGrizFan said:Countless freshmen and RS freshmen being counted on in critical positions/situations
can the countless be counted?
AZGrizFan said:stubbins said:AZGrizFan said:bigkid said:Aint buyin it az................you can sugar coat all you want but the best thng that could happen with the football program is Delaney resign at the end of the season and find a new headcoach. Its obvious he is in way over his head. The look on his face after the fake punt was he never saw it comin......that my friend says it all. The kids played with no sense of urgency and never really seemed to get fired up. That my friend is a lack of leadership at all levels. A must win turned into a non competitve beat down.
The head coach has 6-8 assistant coaches, none of whom apparently saw it either...including the ST coach.
ummmm....weren't you the one saying that the head football coach takes the fall for poor decisions?
why would the head coach even allow that formation in practice? When he saw that don't you think he'd say, "ya know, that looks like it would be extremely easy for a quadrapalegic football team to run a fake against"
Nope. That wasn't me. Personally, I think Mick got handed a shit sandwich (or as I said a couple weeks ago, was asked to put lipstick on a pig). This was going to be a rough year regardless simply because of losing so many starters...compounding that by losing our HC, DC, OC, AD, QB and now our starting RB, then mix in investigations by the DOJ, DOE and NCAA, making things exponentially worse.
Pure BS excuseAZGrizFan said:stubbins said:AZGrizFan said:bigkid said:Aint buyin it az................you can sugar coat all you want but the best thng that could happen with the football program is Delaney resign at the end of the season and find a new headcoach. Its obvious he is in way over his head. The look on his face after the fake punt was he never saw it comin......that my friend says it all. The kids played with no sense of urgency and never really seemed to get fired up. That my friend is a lack of leadership at all levels. A must win turned into a non competitve beat down.
The head coach has 6-8 assistant coaches, none of whom apparently saw it either...including the ST coach.
ummmm....weren't you the one saying that the head football coach takes the fall for poor decisions?
why would the head coach even allow that formation in practice? When he saw that don't you think he'd say, "ya know, that looks like it would be extremely easy for a quadrapalegic football team to run a fake against"
Nope. That wasn't me. Personally, I think Mick got handed a shit sandwich (or as I said a couple weeks ago, was asked to put lipstick on a pig). This was going to be a rough year regardless simply because of losing so many starters...compounding that by losing our HC, DC, OC, AD, QB and now our starting RB, then mix in investigations by the DOJ, DOE and NCAA, making things exponentially worse.
iamnotbobbyh said:Jumping off a bridge. Chicken Little. 2nd coming of Christ. Arm chair QB's. And something about children and bath water. AZGrizFan put more cliches in this thread than any other shitty post I've seen on this board. That has to be a record. 5 cliches and no coherent thought.
Potomac Griz said:Have to say the shit sandwich comment really doesn't ring true. We lose starters every year to graduation or for whatever reason. We were still a playoff team with freshman Bergquist & Washington as our starting QB. The talent is there to be a playoff team, but the coaching is not. Yeah the situation obviously isn't perfect for an awesome run at the NC, but there was a LOT of returning talent this year. Remember the phrase we don't rebuild, we reload? Well that still is true.
So I don't see this as Delaney was handed a shit sandwich, I see it as he was handed a fairly tasty sandwich, and then promptly dropped it into a pile of dog shit, picked it back up, and tried to hand it to us.
We should at least be 5-2 right now without the amazingly horrible coaching decisions & lack of 2nd half adjustments that have been going on this year. We could very well be 6-1. Instead we sit here at 3-4 and debate things like why we kicked off both halves in a game, why our punt coverage team was instructed to play 5 yards off the LOS when SUU needed 2 yards, why we have the worst clock management I've ever seen, why we go in a shell and away from what's working as soon as we get a lead (with expected results) and dozens of other WTF moments we've seen this year.
AZGrizFan said:Potomac Griz said:Have to say the shit sandwich comment really doesn't ring true. We lose starters every year to graduation or for whatever reason. We were still a playoff team with freshman Bergquist & Washington as our starting QB. The talent is there to be a playoff team, but the coaching is not. Yeah the situation obviously isn't perfect for an awesome run at the NC, but there was a LOT of returning talent this year. Remember the phrase we don't rebuild, we reload? Well that still is true.
So I don't see this as Delaney was handed a shit sandwich, I see it as he was handed a fairly tasty sandwich, and then promptly dropped it into a pile of dog shit, picked it back up, and tried to hand it to us.
We should at least be 5-2 right now without the amazingly horrible coaching decisions & lack of 2nd half adjustments that have been going on this year. We could very well be 6-1. Instead we sit here at 3-4 and debate things like why we kicked off both halves in a game, why our punt coverage team was instructed to play 5 yards off the LOS when SUU needed 2 yards, why we have the worst clock management I've ever seen, why we go in a shell and away from what's working as soon as we get a lead (with expected results) and dozens of other WTF moments we've seen this year.
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Potomac Griz said:AZGrizFan said:Potomac Griz said:Have to say the shit sandwich comment really doesn't ring true. We lose starters every year to graduation or for whatever reason. We were still a playoff team with freshman Bergquist & Washington as our starting QB. The talent is there to be a playoff team, but the coaching is not. Yeah the situation obviously isn't perfect for an awesome run at the NC, but there was a LOT of returning talent this year. Remember the phrase we don't rebuild, we reload? Well that still is true.
So I don't see this as Delaney was handed a shit sandwich, I see it as he was handed a fairly tasty sandwich, and then promptly dropped it into a pile of dog shit, picked it back up, and tried to hand it to us.
We should at least be 5-2 right now without the amazingly horrible coaching decisions & lack of 2nd half adjustments that have been going on this year. We could very well be 6-1. Instead we sit here at 3-4 and debate things like why we kicked off both halves in a game, why our punt coverage team was instructed to play 5 yards off the LOS when SUU needed 2 yards, why we have the worst clock management I've ever seen, why we go in a shell and away from what's working as soon as we get a lead (with expected results) and dozens of other WTF moments we've seen this year.
This isn't your father's BSC.![]()
The king of one liners that says really nothing strikes again
Someone should tell Mick that... and also let him know that other teams do try fake punts occasionally, and don't give up immediately when they are behind. Other coaches seem to understand that you play the full 4 quarters. Other coaches seem to understand that you make halftime adjustments. Ours...well... I guess they are still learning that basic part of coaching.
Seriously though... are you happy with our team being instructed to drop back 5 yards in an obvious fake punt situation where the other team only needs 2?
Are you happy that we kicked off to begin both halves against UNC?
Are you happy that every time we get a lead our coaching staff goes ultra conservative and lets the other team start creeping back into the game?
Are you happy with the clock management that's been exhibited?
Sorry, can't blame those on the players... that my friend is squarely on the coaching staff. Those are just a few of the many major issues right now with this coaching staff.
AZGrizFan said:Potomac Griz said:AZGrizFan said:Potomac Griz said:Have to say the shit sandwich comment really doesn't ring true. We lose starters every year to graduation or for whatever reason. We were still a playoff team with freshman Bergquist & Washington as our starting QB. The talent is there to be a playoff team, but the coaching is not. Yeah the situation obviously isn't perfect for an awesome run at the NC, but there was a LOT of returning talent this year. Remember the phrase we don't rebuild, we reload? Well that still is true.
So I don't see this as Delaney was handed a shit sandwich, I see it as he was handed a fairly tasty sandwich, and then promptly dropped it into a pile of dog shit, picked it back up, and tried to hand it to us.
We should at least be 5-2 right now without the amazingly horrible coaching decisions & lack of 2nd half adjustments that have been going on this year. We could very well be 6-1. Instead we sit here at 3-4 and debate things like why we kicked off both halves in a game, why our punt coverage team was instructed to play 5 yards off the LOS when SUU needed 2 yards, why we have the worst clock management I've ever seen, why we go in a shell and away from what's working as soon as we get a lead (with expected results) and dozens of other WTF moments we've seen this year.
This isn't your father's BSC.![]()
The king of one liners that says really nothing strikes again
Someone should tell Mick that... and also let him know that other teams do try fake punts occasionally, and don't give up immediately when they are behind. Other coaches seem to understand that you play the full 4 quarters. Other coaches seem to understand that you make halftime adjustments. Ours...well... I guess they are still learning that basic part of coaching.
Seriously though... are you happy with our team being instructed to drop back 5 yards in an obvious fake punt situation where the other team only needs 2?
Are you happy that we kicked off to begin both halves against UNC?
Are you happy that every time we get a lead our coaching staff goes ultra conservative and lets the other team start creeping back into the game?
Are you happy with the clock management that's been exhibited?
Sorry, can't blame those on the players... that my friend is squarely on the coaching staff. Those are just a few of the many major issues right now with this coaching staff.
I'm sorry my posting style doesn't meet your expectations. Not being happy with the team's performance manifests itself differently in diferent people....you're exhibit A for that. Here's a tip: sometimes, less is more. :thumb: