The Problem with Ivy Athletics, and Reason not in Playoffs

[Eriul]

I make fun of an ivy education and I was accepting into Harvard and Stanford. Just fwiw.

apology excepted. ing. ack! fwiw.

Pretty sure I've stated numerous times on this board I post from my phone which causes numerous typos... Obviously I understand tenses...

 

[GrizLA]

I make fun of an ivy education and I was accepting into Harvard and Stanford. Just fwiw.

apology excepted. ing. ack! fwiw.

Pretty sure I've stated numerous times on this board I post from my phone which causes numerous typos... Obviously I understand tenses...

Let it gowe.

 

[Eriul]

So you further proved my point that the characteristics that ivy league schools teach aren't taught in the classroom. Thanks.

People don't go to college for knowledge. They go for life lessons and connections and a resume builder. That's basically what I said...

UH, but aren't you "attacking' him? Frankly, Anyone who get through a major university deserves to pat themselves on the back, no matter what. I was fortunate to have played at Oklahoma, studied at Montana, and fake my way st Stanford...and, in the end, we all end up the same....Can this thread run 17 pages? Had I the opportunity to do it over, I'd choose Hawaii and Chicago...not necessarily in that order.

I'm attacking the argument that ivy graduates are better educated. In today's day and age that's just simply not true. There existed a time when professors held vast knowledge and to unlock that knowledge you had to study under them or read their work. That day is in the past. All the work is posted online and sure if you want to study specifically what one professor has to teach that's grand but you're only hurting yourself to the vast amounts of information available. Ivy League professors are top notch but that doesn't mean they hold the keys to information anymore.

I personally have no idea what player rep is arguing but that's my argument and I agree that anyone who got through any college deserves to pat themselves on the back but I would be willing to bet that the snobbish ivy attitude that some people have, such as playerrep, would quickly deteriorate if we compared iqs

You don't understand an Ivy education is why you can't make accurate statements on it. Feel free to point out any snobbish ivy attitude statements I've made. Use quotes.

How can you assume that I don't understand ivy education? Do you know where I go to school or anything about my education...

You don't understand an Ivy education is why you can't make accurate statements on it.

There's your snobbish quote.

 

[argh!]

in other news, scripps oceanographic is accepting, excepting if you are greenie, in which case an exception will be made thanks to some genes greenie has, even though it appears they are not expressed. which gets us to the point:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a73wgVrJEVA[/youtube]

 

[GrizLA]

So you further proved my point that the characteristics that ivy league schools teach aren't taught in the classroom. Thanks.

People don't go to college for knowledge. They go for life lessons and connections and a resume builder. That's basically what I said...

UH, but aren't you "attacking' him? Frankly, Anyone who get through a major university deserves to pat themselves on the back, no matter what. I was fortunate to have played at Oklahoma, studied at Montana, and fake my way st Stanford...and, in the end, we all end up the same....Can this thread run 17 pages? Had I the opportunity to do it over, I'd choose Hawaii and Chicago...not necessarily in that order.

I'm attacking the argument that ivy graduates are better educated. In today's day and age that's just simply not true. There existed a time when professors held vast knowledge and to unlock that knowledge you had to study under them or read their work. That day is in the past. All the work is posted online and sure if you want to study specifically what one professor has to teach that's grand but you're only hurting yourself to the vast amounts of information available. Ivy League professors are top notch but that doesn't mean they hold the keys to information anymore.

I personally have no idea what player rep is arguing but that's my argument and I agree that anyone who got through any college deserves to pat themselves on the back but I would be willing to bet that the snobbish ivy attitude that some people have, such as playerrep, would quickly deteriorate if we compared iqs

You don't understand an Ivy education is why you can't make accurate statements on it. Feel free to point out any snobbish ivy attitude statements I've made. Use quotes.

...accurate statements ABOUT it....

 

[AllWeatherFan]

...alot.

 

[PlayerRep]

UH, but aren't you "attacking' him? Frankly, Anyone who get through a major university deserves to pat themselves on the back, no matter what. I was fortunate to have played at Oklahoma, studied at Montana, and fake my way st Stanford...and, in the end, we all end up the same....Can this thread run 17 pages? Had I the opportunity to do it over, I'd choose Hawaii and Chicago...not necessarily in that order.

I'm attacking the argument that ivy graduates are better educated. In today's day and age that's just simply not true. There existed a time when professors held vast knowledge and to unlock that knowledge you had to study under them or read their work. That day is in the past. All the work is posted online and sure if you want to study specifically what one professor has to teach that's grand but you're only hurting yourself to the vast amounts of information available. Ivy League professors are top notch but that doesn't mean they hold the keys to information anymore.

I personally have no idea what player rep is arguing but that's my argument and I agree that anyone who got through any college deserves to pat themselves on the back but I would be willing to bet that the snobbish ivy attitude that some people have, such as playerrep, would quickly deteriorate if we compared iqs

You don't understand an Ivy education is why you can't make accurate statements on it. Feel free to point out any snobbish ivy attitude statements I've made. Use quotes.

How can you assume that I don't understand ivy education? Do you know where I go to school or anything about my education...

You don't understand an Ivy education is why you can't make accurate statements on it.

There's your snobbish quote.

Nothing snobbish about it. Just a true statement. It's clear from your posts that you don't understand why an Ivy education is about.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Ignorant statements are forcing me to continue to try to educate some egrizzers. Ha. The Ivies don't just teach things that can be found on the internet. Much of the focus is on teaching people how to think critically and on excellence. Leadership is also a focus, as is preparing for further degrees. Connections are great in the Ivies, but the going to an Ivy is much much more than that. Below is a list of general principles for Dartmouth's Tuck school of business. Dartmouth, in particular, focuses on undergrad education and teaching, and continues to be the no. 1 rated school in the nation for this focus. See quote below.

"Integrity - Personal integrity and accepting responsibility for one’s actions are the cornerstones of leadership. Through our policies, actions, and teaching, we foster a high level of integrity among all our students, faculty, and staff.

Excellence - By setting high standards for our programs, ourselves as individuals, and for our organization, we strive for excellence in all our endeavors.

Community - People work and learn most effectively through teamwork and within a supportive community. Tuck strives to foster a sense of community among all our students, alumni, faculty, and staff.

Individuality - We honor and value each person in our community as an individual, a commitment that is supported by our small scale.

Diversity and Inclusiveness - Everyone in our community benefits from diversity of cultures, nationalities, and ethnicities, and we believe that this diversity is essential to our overall mission of educating future business leaders. We work to create an environment in which the value of diversity and inclusiveness is understood and celebrated, and we do not tolerate discrimination."

From US News last fall:

"For the fifth year in a row, Dartmouth earned the top spot for “Strong Commitment to Teaching” and remains in the top 10 among national universities in U.S. News & World Report’s “Best Colleges 2014″ ranking, the magazine announced today.

This year, Dartmouth holds the No. 1 teaching spot exclusively among national universities cited for exceptional faculty commitment to undergraduate teaching. For the previous two years, Dartmouth and Princeton shared the first-place ranking.

“The rankings confirm what we know to be a genuine strength for Dartmouth—our faculty’s commitment to educating future leaders across all disciplines who are able to have a real impact on the world’s most pressing challenges. We will continue to innovate in our development of distinctive programs that build on this, our greatest asset,” says President Philip J. Hanlon ’77."

So you further proved my point that the characteristics that ivy league schools teach aren't taught in the classroom. Thanks.

People don't go to college for knowledge. They go for life lessons and connections and a resume builder. That's basically what I said...

UH, but aren't you "attacking' him? Frankly, Anyone who get through a major university deserves to pat themselves on the back, no matter what. I was fortunate to have played at Oklahoma, studied at Montana, and fake my way st Stanford...and, in the end, we all end up the same....Can this thread run 17 pages? Had I the opportunity to do it over, I'd choose Hawaii and Chicago...not necessarily in that order.

I'm attacking the argument that ivy graduates are better educated. In today's day and age that's just simply not true. There existed a time when professors held vast knowledge and to unlock that knowledge you had to study under them or read their work. That day is in the past. All the work is posted online and sure if you want to study specifically what one professor has to teach that's grand but you're only hurting yourself to the vast amounts of information available. Ivy League professors are top notch but that doesn't mean they hold the keys to information anymore.

I personally have no idea what player rep is arguing but that's my argument and I agree that anyone who got through any college deserves to pat themselves on the back but I would be willing to bet that the snobbish ivy attitude that some people have, such as playerrep, would quickly deteriorate if we compared iqs

PR admitted earlier in the thread that there are good schools throughout this country. The top
25 National Universities and Liberal Arts Colleges from the US News & World Report list are all rigorous schools. We all know that. Harvard, Yale or UC Berkley does it really matter?
Probably only to the individual student and the particular experience that they are searching for. The REAL issue is money. When students take on these kind of debt loads just to attend these great colleges, that's the sad part. You'd have to become a Supreme Court Justice or a Fortune 500 CEO just to be able to pay off the tuition bill. That just isn't right IMO.

 

[argh!]

Nothing snobbish about it. Just a true statement. It's clear from your posts that you don't understand why an Ivy education is about.

yeah! muthafucka! you don't unnerstan' nothin' why it about! yeah!

 

[Eriul]

I'm attacking the argument that ivy graduates are better educated. In today's day and age that's just simply not true. There existed a time when professors held vast knowledge and to unlock that knowledge you had to study under them or read their work. That day is in the past. All the work is posted online and sure if you want to study specifically what one professor has to teach that's grand but you're only hurting yourself to the vast amounts of information available. Ivy League professors are top notch but that doesn't mean they hold the keys to information anymore.

I personally have no idea what player rep is arguing but that's my argument and I agree that anyone who got through any college deserves to pat themselves on the back but I would be willing to bet that the snobbish ivy attitude that some people have, such as playerrep, would quickly deteriorate if we compared iqs

You don't understand an Ivy education is why you can't make accurate statements on it. Feel free to point out any snobbish ivy attitude statements I've made. Use quotes.

How can you assume that I don't understand ivy education? Do you know where I go to school or anything about my education...

You don't understand an Ivy education is why you can't make accurate statements on it.

There's your snobbish quote.

Nothing snobbish about it. Just a true statement. It's clear from your posts that you don't understand why an Ivy education is about.

So your assumption, which is false btw, that you claim is "true" because your viewpoint is different isn't snobbish? Wow you have a lot to learn. Are you sure you went to any college?

 

[PlayerRep]

You don't understand an Ivy education is why you can't make accurate statements on it. Feel free to point out any snobbish ivy attitude statements I've made. Use quotes.

How can you assume that I don't understand ivy education? Do you know where I go to school or anything about my education...

You don't understand an Ivy education is why you can't make accurate statements on it.

There's your snobbish quote.

Nothing snobbish about it. Just a true statement. It's clear from your posts that you don't understand why an Ivy education is about.

So your assumption, which is false btw, that you claim is "true" because your viewpoint is different isn't snobbish? Wow you have a lot to learn. Are you sure you went to any college?

I know what an Ivy education is about. It isn't my view. It's a fact. An Ivy education is much more than connections. The academics are rigorous, competitive and generally taught by very good professors--some at the top of their professions. Being taught to think and analysis well is important. There is significant value in those things. The connections and diploma are terrific too. As I said, you don't know what you're talking about. I tried to defend you a few times in the past, but I'm starting to think that maybe Alpha's got you pegged correctly.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I tried to defend you a few times in the past, but I'm starting to think that maybe Alpha's got you pegged correctly.

Smartest thing you have posted in a decade, under any screen name.

Maybe I am slightly off on the ivy league education?

 

[AZGrizFan]

I tried to defend you a few times in the past, but I'm starting to think that maybe Alpha's got you pegged correctly.

Smartest thing you have posted in a decade, under any screen name.

Maybe I am slightly off on the ivy league education?

Could we have a thawing of international relations brewing? :lol:

 

[Eriul]

How can you assume that I don't understand ivy education? Do you know where I go to school or anything about my education...



There's your snobbish quote.

Nothing snobbish about it. Just a true statement. It's clear from your posts that you don't understand why an Ivy education is about.

So your assumption, which is false btw, that you claim is "true" because your viewpoint is different isn't snobbish? Wow you have a lot to learn. Are you sure you went to any college?

I know what an Ivy education is about. It isn't my view. It's a fact. An Ivy education is much more than connections. The academics are rigorous, competitive and generally taught by very good professors--some at the top of their professions. Being taught to think and analysis well is important. There is significant value in those things. The connections and diploma are terrific too. As I said, you don't know what you're talking about. I tried to defend you a few times in the past, but I'm starting to think that maybe Alpha's got you pegged correctly.

Yah go ahead and take your snobbish attitude somewhere else.

The academics are rigorous, competitive and generally taught by very good professors--some at the top of their professions. Being taught to think and analysis well is important.

You act like no institution on the planet does these things...

 

[CV Griz Fan]

That top photo is kinda hot.....

 

[Ursa Major]

Ignorant statements are forcing me to continue to try to educate some ivy leaguers. Ha. The Ivies don't just teach things that can be found on the internet. Much of the focus is on teaching people how to follow in their parents footsteps. Leadership is also a focus, as is preparing for further degrees. Connections are great in the Ivies, and going to an Ivy is that much more than that. Below is a list of general principles for attending an Ivy League school.

"Integrity - If mom and dad say you have it then you have it. Along with a personal check, the required enrollment application is sure to be whisked into the right hands and rubber stamped because of the applicants last name and legacy standing. Really not that much different at any school such as being a 3rd generation Griz football player, you get preference over somebody attending the school for the first time. Integrity happens everywhere we just dont feel the need to lie about it like the Harvard and Fartmouths of the world.

Excellence - If mommy and daddy have old money and a corporation handed down to them by the people that really built the company up to present day standards, then and only then can graduates have the playing field leveled so they can strive for excellence in all of their endeavors.

Community - Its a country club and just like that club at any level you need to have a current "member" rubber stamp your application. Ivies strive to foster a sense of community among all our students, alumni, faculty, and staff because they are usually our sons, daughters and relatives.

Individuality - Ivies are so into individuality that they often march to the beat of their own drummer and rarely join frats or clubs like skull & bones. They are so much better than that kind of pigeonholing.

Diversity and Inclusiveness - Everyone in our community benefits from diversity of cultures, nationalities, and ethnicities, as long as they fit in with the insiders that work day and night to keep peasants out of their exclusive club. Ivies believe that this diversity is essential to our overall mission of pulling the wool over the common mans eyes. They work to create an environment in which the value of diversity and inclusiveness is understood and celebrated as long as your bank account is in good standing.

From AG News this spring:

"For the twenty fifth year in a row, Fartmouth earned the top spot for “Coming in 7th of 8 Ivy League Universitys, pulling out of Columbia and coming up Brown. A.G. News & World Report’s “Laughable Mommy & Daddy Colleges 2014″ ranking, the magazine announced today.

This year, Fartmouth holds the No. 1 teaching spot exclusively among national universities cited for exceptional faculty commitment to fleecing world leaders for their progeny enrollment and tuition. For the previous two years, Fartmouth and Princeton shared the first-place ranking.

“The rankings confirm what we know to be a genuine strength for Fartmouth—our faculty’s commitment to placing lips on the tar stars of those who can elevate us to a pinnacle only found in our own minds, is second to none. We will continue to innovate in our development of distinctive programs that build on this jock sniffing and infringement of privacy, our greatest asset,” says President Heywood J Ablowme ’77."

:roll:

:jack:

Post of the year. No contest. Over in March of this year. Gonna be slow the rest of the year unless we care who gets second place.

Ha Ha!! agreed! Bookmarked for a Brinty!

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

What have you learned in this thread?

I have learned never to piss off a person with multiple degrees even if they can't figure out auto correct on their phone.

Also Ivy League educations find an acorn every now and again, and ARGH is still a hallucinogenic bitch.

 

[Eriul]

What have you learned in this thread?

I have learned never to piss off a person with multiple degrees even if they can't figure out auto correct on their phone.

Also Ivy League educations find an acorn every now and again, and ARGH is still a hallucinogenic bitch.

The auto correct is more of a laziness factor to reread my posts. Just fwiw. But my degrees don't mean anything I didn't go to an Ivy league school so I can't "analysis" and I had no competition as well as just shitty professors.

 

[Ursa Major]

...alot.

He has done that alot!