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[WyomingGrizFan]

Except for that old Bobby Ball in the red zone where from under center the QB drops back 7 steps and hands the ball to a stationary RB resultimg in a routine two yard loss. I do not miss that damn play at all.

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[PlayerRep]

I will bite the bullet and ask a question that many of you will bash me for, but here goes.

Is there really a difference if a qb is lined up under center or in the shotgun when it comes to the running game? Doesn't the running back start in the same spot? It seems to me that if a QB is in the shotgun he gets the ball to the RB quicker giving the RB more time to see the field. Am I wrong?

There are pros and cons, in the running game, from running from under center or shotgun. One of the biggest differences is that, when the qb is under center, the rb is running forward when he gets the ball or may also get the ball quicker. From shotgun, the rb is almost standing still when he gets the ball or gets the ball a bit later. From shotgun, the rb gets some time to look forward to see how the blocking is developing. The blocking may be different too. I never ran from shotgun, or coached it, so I'm sure there are posters that know more of the differences than I do. I'd love to hear what they say.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

I will bite the bullet and ask a question that many of you will bash me for, but here goes.

Is there really a difference if a qb is lined up under center or in the shotgun when it comes to the running game? Doesn't the running back start in the same spot? It seems to me that if a QB is in the shotgun he gets the ball to the RB quicker giving the RB more time to see the field. Am I wrong?

On handoffs, the RB never takes his eyes off the field ahead. So there is no vision advantage for either offensive set to be in. He doesn't look the ball in like a WR. He keeps his eyes on the line of scrimmage the whole time. It's the QBs job to put the ball in the RBs gut in both cases, all while the RB scans ahead.

But on toss sweeps or option pitches the RB obviously has to look the ball in and then get his eyes back up-field.

 

[griz4life]

I will bite the bullet and ask a question that many of you will bash me for, but here goes.

Is there really a difference if a qb is lined up under center or in the shotgun when it comes to the running game? Doesn't the running back start in the same spot? It seems to me that if a QB is in the shotgun he gets the ball to the RB quicker giving the RB more time to see the field. Am I wrong?

The difference is what the rest of the offense is doing. Think about how the Oline is typically set up when the qb is in shotgun,the linemen are further apart positioned to pass block.There arent as many blockers because you probably have four receivers or will after your presnap shifts. the qb needs to read as much of the field as Possible as quickly as possible. he also needs the extra second of time the shotgun offers. the rb is most likely blocking. The qb could hand the ball off, but the rrest of the offense really isn't in the best position to support that.
now think about the rest of the personnel when the qb is under center. there's probably three or fewer receivers, or at least there likely will be after presnap shifts. the offense is looking for power advantages. There aren't as many options downfield as a result. if something does open up downfield it's most likely because the defense was caught over reacting to your run heavy personnel.
now consider the pistol. The Qb is in about a half shotgun. The running back is 5 yards behind center ass opposed to 7 plus. the qb has some quick read, but the offense also appears powered up for run. The rb is likely to crash down as if running between the tackles, which means the linebackers are most likely to stay home. The qb could read two or three short routes, handoff or follow his rb through the line.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Pistol the QB is 4 yards back from center and RB is 3 yards behind him. That was the original version and yardages.

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[griz4life]

Pistol the QB is 4 yards back from center and RB is 3 yards behind him. That was the original version and yardages.

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I was watching a replay of the Gliden. whatever bowl between Nevada and Arizona the other night on ESPN and noticed that Ault has his running back 5 yards behind the line and his Qb about 2 1/2 yards back. Pretty tight.

 

[GrizPony]

Pistol the QB is 4 yards back from center and RB is 3 yards behind him. That was the original version and yardages.

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I was watching a replay of the Gliden. whatever bowl between Nevada and Arizona the other night on ESPN and noticed that Ault has his running back 5 yards behind the line and his Qb about 2 1/2 yards back. Pretty tight.

They don't run the traditional pistol, their version is called the "snub-nose pistol". :lol:

 

[griz4life]

Pistol the QB is 4 yards back from center and RB is 3 yards behind him. That was the original version and yardages.

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Looking at a few Nevada clips on Youtube, I see what you mean. Even in the first half of that bowl game, Nevada's QB and RB are positioned 4 and 3 yards back.