CDAGRIZ said:
IMHO, Poly is the only sure win remaining on the schedule.
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IMHO, Poly is the only sure win remaining on the schedule.
Ringneck said:227original said:
I think the Griz win 4 of their last 6, losing @ Weber State and MSU. I don't think their defense improves much down the stretch and they continue to win games in shootout fashion. I think 7-4 will get them a first round playoff road game, which they win. I see a second round exit after they're matched up against a SHSU, SDSU or some such team. At 8-5 on the year, Stitt gets an extension.
I agree for the most part but this weekend will be a tough test as well. We will get blown away in bozeman if our defense doesn't have a "come to Jesus" moment and at the same time heal up some key injuries. Murray has progressed too much for us to expect to keep the lid on their offense this year. Unfortunately I think a big L is looming at state...To the playoffs, a first round win, and a Stitt extension? I am 50/50 on the playoff win (IF we get there), and I don't know how I feel about an extension. Does it come with the stipulation that Semore is gone? Are there other benchmarks (beating state, 2nd round win) that must be met in a potential year 4? I have always been a fan of at least 4 years to build your team, but the lack of improvement defensively, as well as the overall "tone" of the team lead me to think Stitt may be in over his head. (By "tone" of the team I mean an apparent lack of physicality, especially in the play calling, poor ST, and a seemingly lackadaisical approach to motivating and "pumping up" his team. There is no visible fire with Stitt.) I feel like we have a Rob Ash on our hands....also telling: cat fans LOVE Stitt....not a good sign.
MTGRZ said:Ringneck said:227original said:
I think the Griz win 4 of their last 6, losing @ Weber State and MSU. I don't think their defense improves much down the stretch and they continue to win games in shootout fashion. I think 7-4 will get them a first round playoff road game, which they win. I see a second round exit after they're matched up against a SHSU, SDSU or some such team. At 8-5 on the year, Stitt gets an extension.
I agree for the most part but this weekend will be a tough test as well. We will get blown away in bozeman if our defense doesn't have a "come to Jesus" moment and at the same time heal up some key injuries. Murray has progressed too much for us to expect to keep the lid on their offense this year. Unfortunately I think a big L is looming at state...To the playoffs, a first round win, and a Stitt extension? I am 50/50 on the playoff win (IF we get there), and I don't know how I feel about an extension. Does it come with the stipulation that Semore is gone? Are there other benchmarks (beating state, 2nd round win) that must be met in a potential year 4? I have always been a fan of at least 4 years to build your team, but the lack of improvement defensively, as well as the overall "tone" of the team lead me to think Stitt may be in over his head. (By "tone" of the team I mean an apparent lack of physicality, especially in the play calling, poor ST, and a seemingly lackadaisical approach to motivating and "pumping up" his team. There is no visible fire with Stitt.) I feel like we have a Rob Ash on our hands....also telling: cat fans LOVE Stitt....not a good sign.
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Stop_HammerTime69
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hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Are they really the worst? They have two Rose Bowl appearances in the last 20 years, which is more than what Cal, Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona State, and UCLA can say, and the Bruins play in the damn stadium. Wazzu isn't a bad program. They just hit a rough patch.
Stop_HammerTime69
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Starting over from scratch isn't a good idea. We want success now. Given where the program has been, that might just be a bit too unrealistic. Coaching football isn't plumbing or welding. High performance immediately is a rarity. Nick Saban, Jim Harbaugh, and Urban Meyer have set the bar so high for what the first few years can look like. Building and rebuilding takes time just about anywhere that isn't Alabama or Ohio State. Bringing in a new guy to tear up a foundation only sets the timetable back that much farther.
Stitt isn't a terrible coach. His offense can work in the Big Sky and nationally. The team is absurdly young, and it is important to remember that the program is coming off scholarship restrictions. Do some changes need to be made? Absolutely. But it's important to remember that there aren't a lot of battle-tested guys out on the field, and one of the most experienced guys is out for the season with a broken leg. Mistakes will be made as new talent comes in and experience starts becoming a factor.
Anyways, as frustrating as it is to say, a road game at Idaho State will be a bit of a measuring stick for this season, but not the program as a whole.
Stitt isn't a terrible coach. His offense can work in the Big Sky and nationally. The team is absurdly young, and it is important to remember that the program is coming off scholarship restrictions. Do some changes need to be made? Absolutely. But it's important to remember that there aren't a lot of battle-tested guys out on the field, and one of the most experienced guys is out for the season with a broken leg. Mistakes will be made as new talent comes in and experience starts becoming a factor.
Anyways, as frustrating as it is to say, a road game at Idaho State will be a bit of a measuring stick for this season, but not the program as a whole.
What adjustments are the coaches failing to me, other stopping the pass, stopping the other team, giving up fewer points, scoring more points, having less turnovers?
We see reference to adjustments all the time, and the failure of the UM coaches to adjust, but what are they?
How can some fans know that the proper adjustments weren't make, and how can we discuss the potential failure to adjust, if no one can actually point out what adjustments should have been made?
We see reference to adjustments all the time, and the failure of the UM coaches to adjust, but what are they?
How can some fans know that the proper adjustments weren't make, and how can we discuss the potential failure to adjust, if no one can actually point out what adjustments should have been made?
MTGRZ said:
Okay, I don't necessarily agree, but I'm good with your view. Also, I wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something that others were seeing. The D, while good at times and at key times, has to get better and stop giving up so much yardage and so many big plays on 3d and very long. It's okay if they keep picking off 5 passes a game. I'm good with that.
Stop_HammerTime69
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MTGRZ said:
PR's got a point there. I would be curious to know what those adjustments are. It looked more like the guys got tired and the brakes started to get pumped in the Eastern game, and we started to play catch up, even when we were ahead.
Stop_HammerTime69 said:
I'd say they need to go more cover 3 zone prevent package, with a safety over the top, with press coverage on the wide outs, rush 7, drop 4, go to a nickel package and put the LB over the slot receiver. Maybe go to a 3-5-2 alternating with a 4-3 or a 3-4 to better cover the bubble screen or dump off...and watch the screens, streaks, slots, slants, posts and for FUCKS SAKE STOP THE RUNNING QUARTERBACK!!!
Disclaimer: I have no idea what any of that means. I stopped playing in the 9th grade.
Grisly Fan
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I had worried whether Stitt's offense could work full stop. This year with a mobile QB and the semblance of an A-gap power running game I am beginning to believe it can. The hurry up against PSU caught them unprepared several times giving the Griz a tactical advantage. Make special teams special and shore up the D and this team can be pretty special. There is a lot of work to do and maybe with the O starting to gel Coach Stitt can afford to focus on those areas.
PlayerRep said:
Agreed the defense has improved, but when we started SO BAD we need A LOT of improvement before we can start winning games against quality opponents. I feel we get exploited for big gains at least once or twice a game. Against PSU it was that called QB draw RIGHT UP THE MIDDLE that resulted in a TD.
A cure for some poor D? Maybe not so many 3 and outs. The offense can put up points, but sometimes the WAY we put up points can actually hurt the defense. Relying on quick strikes to score sets up our defense to be on the field a lot, especially if the alternative to quick points is a quick 3 and out. I honestly wouldn't mind a few long drives that eat up the clock and let the defense rest, and flip the field even if we don't score. At least the defense gets a rest. Just an observation. I totally like the picks from our D....gotta love that!
Stop_HammerTime69 said:
Maybe an adjustment would be less 3 and outs on offense. Like you noted, the defense looked tired against EWU. If the offense would sustain a drive (even if we don't score) and let the defense rest, we could probably get more consistent pressure on their QB.
