The coach who replaces Stitt...

[TCCGRIZ]

Really ! 4 years . The only thing he has going for him is his recruiting.
A good coach will take the talent he has and use it to the best of their ability. I have not seen this .
A good coach will motivate his team . I gave not seen this
I will say this again . Stitt is well respected by his peers for being an offensive genius, I get it but I really doubt his ability has a head coach .
And 4 years that's a load of crap .In my line of work I pay above a living wage and I expect you to know what you are doing . If not your down the road . Those that don't usually are gone in a matter of a day or two if not hours . They only way they are around for 4 years if they are an apprentice .

Yes 4 years... one full recruiting cycle. That is what most coaches and ADs will tell you.

A

Just an excuse for failure on the coaches part .
Also why would they not say that ,job security for four years .
Again ,good coaches will coach the players they have to there full potential

For all you Ohio State fans, Joey Galloway was on College Football Final talking about that very thing last night. Not Stitt of course, but, he was talking about how fans and boosters have gone insane calling for coaches heads into year two and year three of their tenures. He said it's absolutely insane and he said four years is what he believes is the minimum anyone with any grasp of knowledge would need to evaluate where a program is at under a coach.

Well I guess the argument is over since Joey Galloway said it

 

[George Ferguson]

Yes 4 years... one full recruiting cycle. That is what most coaches and ADs will tell you.

A

Just an excuse for failure on the coaches part .
Also why would they not say that ,job security for four years .
Again ,good coaches will coach the players they have to there full potential

For all you Ohio State fans, Joey Galloway was on College Football Final talking about that very thing last night. Not Stitt of course, but, he was talking about how fans and boosters have gone insane calling for coaches heads into year two and year three of their tenures. He said it's absolutely insane and he said four years is what he believes is the minimum anyone with any grasp of knowledge would need to evaluate where a program is at under a coach.

Well I guess the argument is over since Joey Galloway said it

No, I never said that. But some people believe there isn't two sides to an argument. Especially football fans. They think they're right 100 percent of the time and that's it. I simply posted someone's argument to the other side of this particular discussion.

 

[TCCGRIZ]

Just an excuse for failure on the coaches part .
Also why would they not say that ,job security for four years .
Again ,good coaches will coach the players they have to there full potential

For all you Ohio State fans, Joey Galloway was on College Football Final talking about that very thing last night. Not Stitt of course, but, he was talking about how fans and boosters have gone insane calling for coaches heads into year two and year three of their tenures. He said it's absolutely insane and he said four years is what he believes is the minimum anyone with any grasp of knowledge would need to evaluate where a program is at under a coach.

Well I guess the argument is over since Joey Galloway said it

No, I never said that. But some people believe there isn't two sides to an argument. Especially football fans. They think they're right 100 percent of the time and that's it. I simply posted someone's argument to the other side of this particular discussion.

I know , I was just being a sarcastic . You are rifht Some posters think they are always right and don't have the balls to admit when they are wrong

 

[tgreseth]

Is Mike Leach a good coach?

He's 32-34 at WSU so far and went 3-9, 6-7, and 3-9 his first 3 seasons. Since then, 9-4 and 8-5...5-0 so far this year.

I imagine Coug fans are happy Coach Leach wasn't fired after his first 3 seasons...

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Is Mike Leach a good coach?

He's 32-34 at WSU so far and went 3-9, 6-7, and 3-9 his first 3 seasons. Since then, 9-4 and 8-5...5-0 so far this year.

I imagine Coug fans are happy Coach Leach wasn't fired after his first 3 seasons...

Coug fans are just happy they can win 6-7 games per year....hell 3 was a good season for coug fans.

 

[daGrizJ]

For all you Ohio State fans, Joey Galloway was on College Football Final talking about that very thing last night. Not Stitt of course, but, he was talking about how fans and boosters have gone insane calling for coaches heads into year two and year three of their tenures. He said it's absolutely insane and he said four years is what he believes is the minimum anyone with any grasp of knowledge would need to evaluate where a program is at under a coach.

Well I guess the argument is over since Joey Galloway said it

No, I never said that. But some people believe there isn't two sides to an argument. Especially football fans. They think they're right 100 percent of the time and that's it. I simply posted someone's argument to the other side of this particular discussion.

I know , I was just being a sarcastic . You are rifht Some posters think they are always right and don't have the balls to admit when they are wrong

Another example for "Mr. Right"; Since Elon moved to the CAA and hired Cignetti in 2014 they have gone 4-20 in conference play in his first THREE years. (Gawd, can you even imagine Egriz?) This year they are 4-1 with the last 3 wins against top 25 teams.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

Is Mike Leach a good coach?

He's 32-34 at WSU so far and went 3-9, 6-7, and 3-9 his first 3 seasons. Since then, 9-4 and 8-5...5-0 so far this year.

I imagine Coug fans are happy Coach Leach wasn't fired after his first 3 seasons...

WSU was considered the worst P5 program not long ago, so they are not exactly a good point of comparison


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[Griz Voice of Reason]

Stitt keeps his job and should. He is turning it around. Great win this past weekend in spite of adversity.

 

[Ringneck]

Montana should be a premiere FCS power, it's been over two years... How long do we expect him to be on a steep learning curve?

You say that like two years is a long time. Do you judge other long term processes in the same light?

"My son should have should have graduated with honors, he's been at university for more than two years...how long should I expect him to be on a steep learning curve?"

"I should be the CEO of this company, I've been working retail for over two years...how long should I expect to wait before I run this place?"

 

[kemajic]

Since there is continuing whining about the handicap a defense has playing in the BSC, let's use BSC game numbers and eliminate the play-up and play-down games. Again Montana has given up 1161 yards in their two conf. games. Where does that put them? How many more games are we likely to win averaging over 580 yards/game allowed?

Conference Games Only

TOTAL DEFENSE Avg/G
1. Montana State 312.0
2. Northern Arizona 348.0
3. Weber State 368.0
4. UC Davis 440.5
5. Portland State 454.0
6. Cal Poly 478.0
7. Sacramento State 484.5
8. Northern Colorado 528.0
9. Idaho State 536.0
10. Eastern Washington 549.0
11. Montana 580.5
12. North Dakota 583.0
13. Southern Utah 586.0

Thanks. A much more realistic look.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Keep on the sunny side, always on the sunny side...

 

[227original]

Montana should be a premiere FCS power, it's been over two years... How long do we expect him to be on a steep learning curve?

You say that like two years is a long time. Do you judge other long term processes in the same light?

"My son should have should have graduated with honors, he's been at university for more than two years...how long should I expect him to be on a steep learning curve?"

"I should be the CEO of this company, I've been working retail for over two years...how long should I expect to wait before I run this place?"

Yeah, because that's exactly what I mean... :roll:

You blew that out of proportion... Montana (High Quality D1 School) isn't a place where you should be learning basic strategy.

We saw it during Stitt's first year, where he was going for it on 4th too often. The next year he changed his thinking... He then reverted back to his old ways in the EWU game... Went for it on 4th in an unnecessary situation.

Another failure of the EWU game was his failure to slow the game down in the 4th... He then wisely chose to grind the clock in the 2nd half against PSU...

Montana isn't the place for a coach to be 'figuring' these things out... This school deserves a D1 coach that already knows this Stitt...

 

[kemajic]

I don't know if he will get that but... UM will only hurt itself by dumping him after a 7-4 or
8-3 season

That being said...D coach is probably gone unless the D improves.
Someone will have to fall on a sword....

Stitt will be extended if we go 7-4 or 8-3 particularly if he beats MSU. What teams do you think we beat to get to 7-4 or 8-3?

 

[AZGrizFan]

I don't know if he will get that but... UM will only hurt itself by dumping him after a 7-4 or
8-3 season

That being said...D coach is probably gone unless the D improves.
Someone will have to fall on a sword....

Stitt will be extended if we go 7-4 or 8-3 particularly if he beats MSU. What teams do you think we beat to get to 7-4 or 8-3?

ISU
CP
MSU
UNC
UND


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[kemajic]

I don't know if he will get that but... UM will only hurt itself by dumping him after a 7-4 or
8-3 season

That being said...D coach is probably gone unless the D improves.
Someone will have to fall on a sword....

Stitt will be extended if we go 7-4 or 8-3 particularly if he beats MSU. What teams do you think we beat to get to 7-4 or 8-3?

ISU
CP
MSU
UNC
UND


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Ah, CPSLO is not on the schedule.

 

[TCCGRIZ]

Montana should be a premiere FCS power, it's been over two years... How long do we expect him to be on a steep learning curve?

You say that like two years is a long time. Do you judge other long term processes in the same light?

"My son should have should have graduated with honors, he's been at university for more than two years...how long should I expect him to be on a steep learning curve?"

"I should be the CEO of this company, I've been working retail for over two years...how long should I expect to wait before I run this place?"

Not a good comparison. You were hired to sell retail not be the CEO. Stitt was hired to win not learn as he goes

 

[TCCGRIZ]

I don't know if he will get that but... UM will only hurt itself by dumping him after a 7-4 or
8-3 season

That being said...D coach is probably gone unless the D improves.
Someone will have to fall on a sword....

Stitt will be extended if we go 7-4 or 8-3 particularly if he beats MSU. What teams do you think we beat to get to 7-4 or 8-3?

ISU
CP
MSU
UNC
UND


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I really hope we beat all those teams but I have no confidence in Stitt to get us those wins

 

[Ringneck]

You blew that out of proportion...

Which seems to be the theme of this entire thread, doesn't it?

 

[227original]

You blew that out of proportion...

Which seems to be the theme of this entire thread, doesn't it?

No, I don't believe so. Being concerned about a defense giving up over 500 yards a game is justifiable..

 

[Ringneck]

Montana should be a premiere FCS power, it's been over two years... How long do we expect him to be on a steep learning curve?

You say that like two years is a long time. Do you judge other long term processes in the same light?

"My son should have should have graduated with honors, he's been at university for more than two years...how long should I expect him to be on a steep learning curve?"

"I should be the CEO of this company, I've been working retail for over two years...how long should I expect to wait before I run this place?"

Not a good comparison. You were hired to sell retail not be the CEO. Stitt was hired to win not learn as he goes

Fair enough, nobody's perfect. Except the next coach of the Montana Grizzlies (or my personal favorite former coach, whoever that might be). That guy never makes a mistake or has anything to learn.