The Answer Will Be Revealed Next Saturday

[mthoopsfan]

Very few people I know thought it would be a 50 point blowout. Actually nobody I know. Not one team in FCS would beat Ferris State by 50, Including SDSU, NDSU or MSU. They might not beat them but they would not be embarrassed. Ferris State could easily transition into FCS especially being the only FCS school in Michigan and compete at a high level. Give them those additional scholarships and they would be top 5 FCS in the nation pretty consistently. Just as NDSU and SDSU have since they moved up. That guy is a legendary coach and he finds talent. I called it a touchdown win the week before and that is what it is. Offense has to find its groove for Griz to be a top 2 or 3 Big Sky team. But the defense has been outstanding and the Griz special teams have been top notch. And those two things can keep Griz in games as the offense improves. Two things people keep harping on are the total offensive yards the Griz had Saturday night. Well when your scoring drives in second half are 30 and 40 yards you are not going to put up big numbers. Improvement needed on offense..absolutely but how about recognizing the positives? There are a lot of them.

How do you know Ferris would compete against other Big Sky teams? Simply conjecture, dude. You assume that the results of our game with Ferris showed just how good they were. But, it could also expose how pedestrian we are. For all of you posters who have now anointed Ferris as a juggernaut who would be a powerhouse in the Big Sky Conference......... here is a list of teams playing in the conference which Ashland plays in....... an Ashland team who only lost 38-28 to Ferris. Ever heard of any of these powerhouses? This is how dumbstruck many of you have become.

https://greatmidwestsports.com/sports/2012/7/12/GEN_0712122031.aspx

Rico would know because he is friends with the Griz coaches, has been a football coach including head football coach of a couple schools, and played the game. He also understands the game. He also has coached for a few decades.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

How do you know Ferris would compete against other Big Sky teams? Simply conjecture, dude. You assume that the results of our game with Ferris showed just how good they were. But, it could also expose how pedestrian we are. For all of you posters who have now anointed Ferris as a juggernaut who would be a powerhouse in the Big Sky Conference......... here is a list of teams playing in the conference which Ashland plays in....... an Ashland team who only lost 38-28 to Ferris. Ever heard of any of these powerhouses? This is how dumbstruck many of you have become.

https://greatmidwestsports.com/sports/2012/7/12/GEN_0712122031.aspx

Here's a better question for you, Pickle: How many guys on that Ferris squad would you like to see in Maroon? I can say, unequivocally, that I'd take their entire D-line, 2-3 of their O-line, at least 3 of their receivers, and the RB who seemed to have 4.1 speed. IF that team had a functioning QB they'd be lethal. Their inability to hit a pass and inability to stop shooting themselves in the foot with penalties is what cost them that game.

Take their corner's too. They stuck like glue most of the game.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Here's a better question for you, Pickle: How many guys on that Ferris squad would you like to see in Maroon? I can say, unequivocally, that I'd take their entire D-line, 2-3 of their O-line, at least 3 of their receivers, and the RB who seemed to have 4.1 speed. IF that team had a functioning QB they'd be lethal. Their inability to hit a pass and inability to stop shooting themselves in the foot with penalties is what cost them that game.

So, you are listing all of the recruiting deficiencies of the Hauck coaching staff. I get it. Of course they could have won the game. They out-played us, and gained 100 more yards than us. The crowd basically won the game for us, not Bobby's coaching. However, did that fact expose how bad were are, or how good thy are? Don't forget their 10-point victory over the powerhouse Ashland team.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Has ZERO to do with "recruiting deficiencies". Nice spin though. Just can't answer the question, can you?

 

[BWahlberg]

If any fan thinks you can draw a direct comparison between a common opponent's showing and our showing against a team, then you must not have followed Hauck run teams for too long. I highly doubt we'll have as strong of a showing. Utah Tech also was gifted 14 points on defensive scores.

 

[SaskGriz]

The suspense must be killing some of you posters who are trying to put lipstick on the pig we have witnessed on the field so far. You keep trying to find the positive, and keep thinking that we will figure things out. But I can sense the trepidation you must have going into the NAU game, because you know that we should win easily in Flag, but are afraid we won't, and the reality will set-in that the Big Sky coaches knew much more about our team than the fan base did.
If we lose to NAU (I am predicting we win in a very close game), will you still support this coaching staff. Just curious to see who has the nads to go on record prospectively. Is this game a must-win for you?

There are two sides to that coin; if we win be a large margin (you pick it) will you then drop your "I hate Coach Hauck" schtick? It's about as entertaining as watching a one float parade.
You want people who disagree with you to be all in on one game, do you have the sack to do the same?

 

[UncleRico]

Very few people I know thought it would be a 50 point blowout. Actually nobody I know. Not one team in FCS would beat Ferris State by 50, Including SDSU, NDSU or MSU. They might not beat them but they would not be embarrassed. Ferris State could easily transition into FCS especially being the only FCS school in Michigan and compete at a high level. Give them those additional scholarships and they would be top 5 FCS in the nation pretty consistently. Just as NDSU and SDSU have since they moved up. That guy is a legendary coach and he finds talent. I called it a touchdown win the week before and that is what it is. Offense has to find its groove for Griz to be a top 2 or 3 Big Sky team. But the defense has been outstanding and the Griz special teams have been top notch. And those two things can keep Griz in games as the offense improves. Two things people keep harping on are the total offensive yards the Griz had Saturday night. Well when your scoring drives in second half are 30 and 40 yards you are not going to put up big numbers. Improvement needed on offense..absolutely but how about recognizing the positives? There are a lot of them.

Because you have never heard of them that is your rule of thumb? How about the fact that there are more Ferris players in the NFL than any Big Sky team? They get some dudes. If you watched the game live and didn't come away with an appreciation for that team then I don't think you really watched the game. This #8 DL Oladere Olidipo recruiting article out of high school. He will be as good of defensive lineman as the Griz will face all year. You fuel your opinion on an irrational hatred of the coaching staff and "because you have never heard of" some other schools. https://www.thechampaignroom.com/2016/7/9/12133486/olalere-oladipo-illinois-fighting-illini-football-recruiting-scouting-report

How do you know Ferris would compete against other Big Sky teams? Simply conjecture, dude. You assume that the results of our game with Ferris showed just how good they were. But, it could also expose how pedestrian we are. For all of you posters who have now anointed Ferris as a juggernaut who would be a powerhouse in the Big Sky Conference......... here is a list of teams playing in the conference which Ashland plays in....... an Ashland team who only lost 38-28 to Ferris. Ever heard of any of these powerhouses? This is how dumbstruck many of you have become.

https://greatmidwestsports.com/sports/2012/7/12/GEN_0712122031.aspx

 

[thirdandlong]

Because you have never heard of them that is your rule of thumb? How about the fact that there are more Ferris players in the NFL than any Big Sky team? They get some dudes. If you watched the game live and didn't come away with an appreciation for that team then I don't think you really watched the game. This #8 DL Oladere Olidipo recruiting article out of high school. He will be as good of defensive lineman as the Griz will face all year. You fuel your opinion on an irrational hatred of the coaching staff and "because you have never heard of" some other schools. https://www.thechampaignroom.com/2016/7/9/12133486/olalere-oladipo-illinois-fighting-illini-football-recruiting-scouting-report

How do you know Ferris would compete against other Big Sky teams? Simply conjecture, dude. You assume that the results of our game with Ferris showed just how good they were. But, it could also expose how pedestrian we are. For all of you posters who have now anointed Ferris as a juggernaut who would be a powerhouse in the Big Sky Conference......... here is a list of teams playing in the conference which Ashland plays in....... an Ashland team who only lost 38-28 to Ferris. Ever heard of any of these powerhouses? This is how dumbstruck many of you have become.

https://greatmidwestsports.com/sports/2012/7/12/GEN_0712122031.aspx

Yawning....... and then yawning again.

 

[thirdandlong]

The suspense must be killing some of you posters who are trying to put lipstick on the pig we have witnessed on the field so far. You keep trying to find the positive, and keep thinking that we will figure things out. But I can sense the trepidation you must have going into the NAU game, because you know that we should win easily in Flag, but are afraid we won't, and the reality will set-in that the Big Sky coaches knew much more about our team than the fan base did.
If we lose to NAU (I am predicting we win in a very close game), will you still support this coaching staff. Just curious to see who has the nads to go on record prospectively. Is this game a must-win for you?

There are two sides to that coin; if we win be a large margin (you pick it) will you then drop your "I hate Coach Hauck" schtick? It's about as entertaining as watching a one float parade.
You want people who disagree with you to be all in on one game, do you have the sack to do the same?

Uhhhhh, if we beat NAU by a large margin, it will prove nothing, because we will be predicted (including a huge line by Vegas) to destroy them. It is apples and oranges, something that must escape a liberal teacher. I don't hate Hauck. He just isn't ever going to win like he did previously. The game has passed him by, both in his attitude towards players, and in his approach to the Xs and Os. He gets out-coached weekly now. Of course, being the soccer-lover that you are, it would not be evident to you.

 

[UncleRico]

There are two sides to that coin; if we win be a large margin (you pick it) will you then drop your "I hate Coach Hauck" schtick? It's about as entertaining as watching a one float parade.
You want people who disagree with you to be all in on one game, do you have the sack to do the same?

Uhhhhh, if we beat NAU by a large margin, it will prove nothing, because we will be predicted (including a huge line by Vegas) to destroy them. It is apples and oranges, something that must escape a liberal teacher. I don't hate Hauck. He just isn't ever going to win like he did previously. The game has passed him by, both in his attitude towards players, and in his approach to the Xs and Os. He gets out-coached weekly now. Of course, being the soccer-lover that you are, it would not be evident to you.

You know he ran this all by his physical therapist when he asked her what her favorite class is.

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

There are two sides to that coin; if we win be a large margin (you pick it) will you then drop your "I hate Coach Hauck" schtick? It's about as entertaining as watching a one float parade.
You want people who disagree with you to be all in on one game, do you have the sack to do the same?

Uhhhhh, if we beat NAU by a large margin, it will prove nothing, because we will be predicted (including a huge line by Vegas) to destroy them. It is apples and oranges, something that must escape a liberal teacher. I don't hate Hauck. He just isn't ever going to win like he did previously. The game has passed him by, both in his attitude towards players, and in his approach to the Xs and Os. He gets out-coached weekly now. Of course, being the soccer-lover that you are, it would not be evident to you.

I know that it is pointless to even try to have a conversation with you, but here I am. Yet again...

You constantly say that we are not recruiting good talent for the FCS. You are saying that Bobby Hauck gets out coached "weekly" now. (Which would mean every week.)

How can you possibly square your opinion that we recruit players that are not FCS caliber, and that Bobby Hauck is being out coached weekly, with the fact that we keep having winning records, making the playoffs, and winning games in the playoffs? If we have worse talent, then he must be out coaching other teams. If Bobby and co. are being out coached, then we must recruit talent that is so amazing it overcomes the coaching.

You can't have it both ways. At some point you are going to have to look in the mirror and realize that not only did you dedicate years of your life to hating the coaching staff at an FCS school, but that you were also just plain wrong. Sooner or later, those neurons will fire and you will get past your cognitive dissonance. I have faith!

 

[bigsky33]

Ferris was a very talented team. Their team speed was impressive. Lots of very talented players. I agree, I do not think there would be many FCS teams that would blow them out. On the other hand, the Griz appear to have problems on offense. I don't think it is a talent problem. I see it as it being more on the coaches. As for defense, it looks okay and I saw improvement. Fortunately, this season, with their schedule, they have an opportunity to get things figured out. NAU and Idaho State will not tell much about how good or bad this team will be. Going to be interesting to see how they progress throughout the season. I do think they have a ways to go to be at the level of Sac. St., MSU, Idaho and Weber. Just my take.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

What if we won every game by seven points? I'd be giddy.

 

[bigsky33]

What if we won every game by seven points? I'd be giddy.

I think a fan of any team would be giddy if that should happen!

 

[CatsRback]

If the gris do the same thing as last year and beat the bad teams but lose to the good teams….

Do they make the playoffs with this schedule?

5-0 vs pioneer butler, UTT, D2 Ferris, NAU/ISU.

UCD- L
Idaho- L
UNC - W
SS- L
PSU - W
MSU- L

That puts them at 7-4 again, 6 D1 wins however. Luckily, no WSU or EWU on the schedule.

 

[AZGrizFan]

If the gris do the same thing as last year and beat the bad teams but lose to the good teams….

Do they make the playoffs with this schedule?

5-0 vs pioneer butler, UTT, D2 Ferris, NAU/ISU.

UCD- L
Idaho- L
UNC - W
SS- L
PSU - W
MSU- L

That puts them at 7-4 again, 6 D1 wins however. Luckily, no WSU or EWU on the schedule.

Everyone on here agrees that winning at least one of those 4 you have penciled in as "L's" is a must.

 

[AZGrizFan]

There are two sides to that coin; if we win be a large margin (you pick it) will you then drop your "I hate Coach Hauck" schtick? It's about as entertaining as watching a one float parade.
You want people who disagree with you to be all in on one game, do you have the sack to do the same?

Uhhhhh, if we beat NAU by a large margin, it will prove nothing, because we will be predicted (including a huge line by Vegas) to destroy them. It is apples and oranges, something that must escape a liberal teacher. I don't hate Hauck. He just isn't ever going to win like he did previously. The game has passed him by, both in his attitude towards players, and in his approach to the Xs and Os. He gets out-coached weekly now. Of course, being the soccer-lover that you are, it would not be evident to you.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
If we win a close one it proves something, but if we blow them out it proves nothing? WAFJ you are.

 

[grizondarez]

If the gris do the same thing as last year and beat the bad teams but lose to the good teams….

Do they make the playoffs with this schedule?

5-0 vs pioneer butler, UTT, D2 Ferris, NAU/ISU.

UCD- L
Idaho- L
UNC - W
SS- L
PSU - W
MSU- L

That puts them at 7-4 again, 6 D1 wins however. Luckily, no WSU or EWU on the schedule.

Lucky no EWU? Historically i would agree. They are not even in the top 25

 

[uofmman1122]

If the gris do the same thing as last year and beat the bad teams but lose to the good teams….

Do they make the playoffs with this schedule?

5-0 vs pioneer butler, UTT, D2 Ferris, NAU/ISU.

UCD- L
Idaho- L
UNC - W
SS- L
PSU - W
MSU- L

That puts them at 7-4 again, 6 D1 wins however. Luckily, no WSU or EWU on the schedule.

Lucky no EWU? Historically i would agree. They are not even in the top 25

They just beat top 25 SELA, so I don't think they're the same dumpster fire they were last season.

 

[grizondarez]

Lucky no EWU? Historically i would agree. They are not even in the top 25

They just beat top 25 SELA, so I don't think they're the same dumpster fire they were last season.
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True. I watched it. Messy game. SELA didnt play well. Red turf

 

[Grizzoola950$]

My fear is that UM will play down to NAU's level; they have before w/ other teams. The first half of the 1st quarter should tell us a lot. So, if UM wins by a small margin, it will be because of their attitude, not the Xs & Os or talent. The Griz like to make a game exciting & this will be one of them.