TG trying to poach our recruits

[SoldierGriz]

bhumble, there is a flip side to that coin. Do a search for Ty Gregorak on BN and look at any thread prior to December of 2015 that has his name in it, and you will see Cats fans saying the Griz D isn't any good, that he is a dirty coach, that his teams showed no class, that his defenses were vanilla and overrated. I could go on, but I think you get the point. Fast forward to now, and in Bozeman, he's the best defensive coach ever, he is a master recruiter and the Cats are going to be the best defensive team in the Big Sky. Hell, one guy over there already annointed Balue Champman as the FCS Stats Defensive Player of the Year for 2020. You see where I'm going with this?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just WOW! Pretty sure Cats fans for at least the last 3 years have wished for a defense and a coach that was at least as good as what the griz have had. And you seriously can't tell when someone is joking, that one was pretty obvious, but go ahead and construe to fit your agenda.

The idea that egriz posters have agendas always makes me laugh. I always wonder what mine is. The only agenda that matters is Stitt's.

BOB STITT POST SEASON AGENDA:

Purpose: Win the National Championship.
1. Find a QB who can elevate competition in the Program and effectively lead the Griz offense.
2. Adjust the defensive staff to take the defense from good to great.
3. Clear roster space and drive the recruiting process to secure the best class in the FCS.

Check, Check, Working.

That's the only agenda that matters, and looks like he is on target.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

It sounds like TG has the ethics of a used car salesman. It is sad to see from a coach that was respected at the U.

 

[getgrizzy]

It sounds like TG has the ethics of a used car salesman. It is sad to see from a coach that was respected at the U.

You must be confusing him with Stitt, who threw our starting QB under the bus. What has TG done that's as unethical as that?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

"I don't know how those recruits ended up on my new team".............. - TG, 2016

How fun would partying with TG and 4th meal Marso be???

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

It sounds like TG has the ethics of a used car salesman. It is sad to see from a coach that was respected at the U.

You must be confusing him with Stitt, who threw our starting QB under the bus. What has TG done that's as unethical as that?

Recruiting costs time and money. TG using his Griz based recruiting contacts as well as the U's list of recruits would be considered highly unethical in many circles.

 

[garizzalies]

there was no evidence of the car being broken into the stolen goods themselves are circumstantial evidence of this, but you keep ignoring that

no fingerprints of his inside or outside the bar you said there were prints, just not able to be used. Regardless, that's what people do when breaking and entering, they sneak, wear gloves, wipe prints, etc.

no evidence that he or anyone was even near the car (the parking attendant was within feet of the car) there was circumstantial evidence, see above. Again, they sneak, and I doubt the parking attendant sat there with his eyes fixed on one car all night

no evidence of him carrying anything into the hotel this might be your dumbest argument because it would be so easy to hide the gun/wallet in his pockets with no need to carry a bag, or are us suggesting the hotel did a pat-down before they let him in?

How do you think a supposedly very drunk (or drugged) giant guy breaks into a car with no evidence of a break-in, leaves no finger prints, is not seen or heard by the nearby parking attendant, is not caught on video at the parking garage, and takes the stuff into the hotel and his room (despite not carrying a bag or anything else)? See above, people sneak, not that hard. Apparently there were not cameras pointed directly at the car. Do we even know if the car was locked?

Why do you think the bouncer mis-identified TG as being at the strip club? I don't.

Do you believe the bouncer when he says his car was broken into and the stuff was taken? yep

Do you find it odd that all of this stuff was stolen, but the bouncer didn't bother to contact police until the next day (I think after it was given back to him)? no because the bouncer probably did not even know about it until the dumbass showed up on his doorstep to return the stuff

If your car was broken into, and your wallet, gun, and other stuff taken, would you not contact police right away--or at least ask the parking attendant if he saw anyone break into his car? again, how could he contact anyone before knowing the stuff was missing

Can you say set-up? What's the motive for such a set-up? And if so, why didn't they spring the trap? Why would they rely on Traitorak to turn himself in? Makes no sense at all. Do you think OJ was set up too?

 

[UMGriz75]

It sounds like TG has the ethics of a used car salesman. It is sad to see from a coach that was respected at the U.

You must be confusing him with Stitt, who threw our starting QB under the bus. What has TG done that's as unethical as that?

Recruiting costs time and money. TG using his Griz based recruiting contacts as well as the U's list of recruits would be considered highly unethical in many circles.

As I pointed out when Ty announced his move, this was likely a long time coming. Stitt coaches with his elbows and that includes both players and staff.

The Wombats have likely never had a DC as talented, but more importantly, as highly motivated as Ty Gregorak. And for that, we can thank Bob Stitt.

 

[EverettGriz]

It sounds like TG has the ethics of a used car salesman. It is sad to see from a coach that was respected at the U.

You must be confusing him with Stitt, who threw our starting QB under the bus. What has TG done that's as unethical as that?

Recruiting costs time and money. TG using his Griz based recruiting contacts as well as the U's list of recruits would be considered highly unethical in many circles.

As I pointed out when Ty announced his move, this was likely a long time coming. Stitt coaches with his elbows and that includes both players and staff.

The Wombats have likely never had a DC as talented, but more importantly, as highly motivated as Ty Gregorak. And for that, we can thank Bob Stitt.

:roll: :roll:

 

[VimSince03]

It sounds like TG has the ethics of a used car salesman. It is sad to see from a coach that was respected at the U.

You must be confusing him with Stitt, who threw our starting QB under the bus. What has TG done that's as unethical as that?

Recruiting costs time and money. TG using his Griz based recruiting contacts as well as the U's list of recruits would be considered highly unethical in many circles.

As I pointed out when Ty announced his move, this was likely a long time coming. Stitt coaches with his elbows and that includes both players and staff.

The Wombats have likely never had a DC as talented, but more importantly, as highly motivated as Ty Gregorak. And for that, we can thank Bob Stitt.

Pete Kwiatkowski was our most talented defensive coordinator. Current D-Coordinator at Washington and formerly at Boise State.

 

[UMGriz75]

If your car was broken into, and your wallet, gun, and other stuff taken, would you not contact police right away--or at least ask the parking attendant if he saw anyone break into his car? again, how could he contact anyone before knowing the stuff was missing

Most of your "evidence" is negative; that somehow the absence of video, testimony, tangible physical evidence is just "proof" of how good Gregorak is as a stone cold drunk cat burglar, apparently. He was just that good!

And he knows whose car is who's in a supervised parking lot and goes right to it!

How would he know there was anything in the car? How would he know the car? To say there are some things that "don't add up" isn't just a reasonable observation, trying to say they do add up is incomprehensible.

If someone had stolen my wallet and my gun, I would know about it pretty dam quick, and not sometime later the next day when someone shows up at my door with them.

"Gosh, thanks. You know, I never really know where my wallet and gun are. I didn't even know they were missing. I have no idea where my wife is at the moment, either. Have you seen her?"

And, I'm so grateful, I call the police?

And, if guilty, why would Gregorak return anything?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

there was no evidence of the car being broken into the stolen goods themselves are circumstantial evidence of this, but you keep ignoring that

no fingerprints of his inside or outside the bar you said there were prints, just not able to be used. Regardless, that's what people do when breaking and entering, they sneak, wear gloves, wipe prints, etc.

no evidence that he or anyone was even near the car (the parking attendant was within feet of the car) there was circumstantial evidence, see above. Again, they sneak, and I doubt the parking attendant sat there with his eyes fixed on one car all night

no evidence of him carrying anything into the hotel this might be your dumbest argument because it would be so easy to hide the gun/wallet in his pockets with no need to carry a bag, or are us suggesting the hotel did a pat-down before they let him in?

How do you think a supposedly very drunk (or drugged) giant guy breaks into a car with no evidence of a break-in, leaves no finger prints, is not seen or heard by the nearby parking attendant, is not caught on video at the parking garage, and takes the stuff into the hotel and his room (despite not carrying a bag or anything else)? See above, people sneak, not that hard. Apparently there were not cameras pointed directly at the car. Do we even know if the car was locked?

Why do you think the bouncer mis-identified TG as being at the strip club? I don't.

Do you believe the bouncer when he says his car was broken into and the stuff was taken? yep

Do you find it odd that all of this stuff was stolen, but the bouncer didn't bother to contact police until the next day (I think after it was given back to him)? no because the bouncer probably did not even know about it until the dumbass showed up on his doorstep to return the stuff

If your car was broken into, and your wallet, gun, and other stuff taken, would you not contact police right away--or at least ask the parking attendant if he saw anyone break into his car? again, how could he contact anyone before knowing the stuff was missing

Can you say set-up? What's the motive for such a set-up? And if so, why didn't they spring the trap? Why would they rely on Traitorak to turn himself in? Makes no sense at all. Do you think OJ was set up too?

How dare you try and out lawyer THE resident lawyer????? Do you not know he played corner for Dartmouth???? How dare you sir..how dare you!!!!!!

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

You must be confusing him with Stitt, who threw our starting QB under the bus. What has TG done that's as unethical as that?

Recruiting costs time and money. TG using his Griz based recruiting contacts as well as the U's list of recruits would be considered highly unethical in many circles.

As I pointed out when Ty announced his move, this was likely a long time coming. Stitt coaches with his elbows and that includes both players and staff.

The Wombats have likely never had a DC as talented, but more importantly, as highly motivated as Ty Gregorak. And for that, we can thank Bob Stitt.

:roll: :roll:

I will take good chemistry between the coaches over talent that continues to butt heads every day.....everyones gotta be on the same page to get very far....Big Baby TG and Stitt were not

 

[UMGriz75]

I will take good chemistry between the coaches over talent that continues to butt heads every day.....everyones gotta be on the same page to get very far....Big Baby TG and Stitt were not

I would too.

Hard to see Ty Gregorak not "getting along" with people and knowing how to get along with people, and understanding the importance of getting along with people especially in a professional environment.

Stitt? A different picture.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

"I don't know how those recruits ended up on my new team".............. - TG, 2016

How fun would partying with TG and 4th meal Marso be???

I don't recall...........

 

[doc3kgt]

I will take good chemistry between the coaches over talent that continues to butt heads every day.....everyones gotta be on the same page to get very far....Big Baby TG and Stitt were not

Hard to see Ty Gregorak not "getting along" with people and knowing how to get along with people, and understanding the importance of getting along with people especially in a professional environment.

Stitt? A different picture.

Coach shitt seems like a narcissistic goober. The way he talks, his super sweet innovative offense, and the way he stands up for his players when they get an ass beating is remarkable. It's a good thing shitt decided to humble himself as a d3 coach for so long and be the savior of jizz football! Glad you guys have him. Hope he stays for a real long time too. TG would have made an excellent hc for you btw.

 

[grizindabox]

I will take good chemistry between the coaches over talent that continues to butt heads every day.....everyones gotta be on the same page to get very far....Big Baby TG and Stitt were not

Hard to see Ty Gregorak not "getting along" with people and knowing how to get along with people, and understanding the importance of getting along with people especially in a professional environment.

Stitt? A different picture.

Coach shitt seems like a narcissistic goober. The way he talks, his super sweet innovative offense, and the way he stands up for his players when they get an ass beating is remarkable. It's a good thing shitt decided to humble himself as a d3 coach for so long and be the savior of jizz football! Glad you guys have him. Hope he stays for a real long time too. TG would have made an excellent hc for you btw.

doc3kgt...it is awesome what you bring to egriz....I am just trying to figure out what exactly that is though....by the way....he is 1-0 against the Cats...

 

[IHateRobPhenicie]

Who cares? If, say the Cats' OC came here, and tried to get Cat verbals, Griz fans would be cheering him. That's how things go.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Who cares? If, say the Cats' OC came here, and tried to get Cat verbals, Griz fans would be cheering him. That's how things go.

Although that would be a step up for that coach, don't see a lateral move of that kind happening. And just a hunch, the number of Griz recruits/commits the Cats would try to get is waaaaaay higher than the number of Cat recruits the Griz would want.

 

[garizzalies]

Most of your "evidence" is negative; that somehow the absence of video, testimony, tangible physical evidence is just "proof" of how good Gregorak is as a stone cold drunk cat burglar, apparently. He was just that good! actually, you got that 100% backwards. The traitorak defenders are the ones claiming no video of this or that. I point to the actual circumstantial evidence that really did exist (the gun and wallet themselves), yet you guys simply ignore that each time

And he knows whose car is who's in a supervised parking lot and goes right to it! No need to know who's car is who's. It's called "car hopping." Usually done by young thugs, they simply walk around trying car doors until they find one that's unlocked.

How would he know there was anything in the car? How would he know the car? why does he need to know the car or if anything is in there? I don't think you understand how car hopping works. You try the car door handle, if it opens, you grab what you can and move on
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And, if guilty, why would Gregorak return anything? he sobered up. Happens all the time, but usually you wake up with a "coyote ugly" and not a felony .

Let me help you guys out. I think I figured out the "motive" for the "set-up." Chuck Morrell must have known Traitorak would someday be a finalist for the Tech job and wanted to preemptively torpedo his career. So Chuck was the one that stole the goods, followed him to the hotel, somehow broke in and planted the stolen goods without being spotted or waking up Traitor. But it doesn't stop there. Chuck did not want to get caught up in this so he did not spring the trap directly. Instead, he knew--because traitorak is such an ethical person--that Traitorak would turn himself in. Makes perfect sense!

 

[PlayerRep]

Most of your "evidence" is negative; that somehow the absence of video, testimony, tangible physical evidence is just "proof" of how good Gregorak is as a stone cold drunk cat burglar, apparently. He was just that good! actually, you got that 100% backwards. The traitorak defenders are the ones claiming no video of this or that. I point to the actual circumstantial evidence that really did exist (the gun and wallet themselves), yet you guys simply ignore that each time

And he knows whose car is who's in a supervised parking lot and goes right to it! No need to know who's car is who's. It's called "car hopping." Usually done by young thugs, they simply walk around trying car doors until they find one that's unlocked.

How would he know there was anything in the car? How would he know the car? why does he need to know the car or if anything is in there? I don't think you understand how car hopping works. You try the car door handle, if it opens, you grab what you can and move on
...
And, if guilty, why would Gregorak return anything? he sobered up. Happens all the time, but usually you wake up with a "coyote ugly" and not a felony .

Let me help you guys out. I think I figured out the "motive" for the "set-up." Chuck Morrell must have known Traitorak would someday be a finalist for the Tech job and wanted to preemptively torpedo his career. So Chuck was the one that stole the goods, followed him to the hotel, somehow broke in and planted the stolen goods without being spotted or waking up Traitor. But it doesn't stop there. Chuck did not want to get caught up in this so he did not spring the trap directly. Instead, he knew--because traitorak is such an ethical person--that Traitorak would turn himself in. Makes perfect sense!

Now, you're starting to say stuff that is just plain dumb.

There is zero direct evidence. Circumstantial evidence almost never convicts anyone.

Sure, he was just out going through cars looking to steal stuff? Even you can't be stupid enough to think that.

No, it doesn't happen all the time that someone who stole something like a gun/wallet/sunglasses, etc. out of a car whose owner he doesn't know, wakes up the next morning, and returns it. In fact, I wonder if that has ever happened even once.