Tanner Roderick

[PlayerRep]

Also, who's going to step up and tell us that the Cats will have more injuries in their D-II game next week, than they had against MSU?

I assume you mean smu. that would be a bold prediction this year because we lost a lot last weekend. not typical. i'll do a little digging if I get a chance later but i'm pretty certain over the past few years we have lost less guys playing up (Colorado, Minnesota, a&m, k-state) as we have either playing down or within our conference.

this would not be the year to make that claim but most years we have lost a guy or two here and there and it would be about 50-50 whether we'd lose more the following weak against a lesser opponent.

Okay, I predict you will have less serious injuries this coming weekend. Did you see Delaney's recent statements about MSU having lost a bunch of players to injury in a play-up game when he coached there, and they almost got fired? Delaney's recent statements are on egriz somewhere, but with all the threads and (dumb) posts, they might not be easy to find. Maybe a coaches show thread.

Player Rep, your basis for having more injuries when playing up is that FBS teams are bigger, stronger and faster. SMU was not bigger or stronger and maybe just very slightly faster. Why so many injuries in that game? Maybe it is because multiple injuries can happen in ANY game. As long as we have no stats on this, nobody really knows!

Or maybe your assessment of SMU's bigger, stronger, faster and better is not accurate.

Are you willing to say that MSU and UM wouldn't have more injuries playing in the SEC, than they do playing in the Big Sky?

 

[bigsky33]

I assume you mean smu. that would be a bold prediction this year because we lost a lot last weekend. not typical. i'll do a little digging if I get a chance later but i'm pretty certain over the past few years we have lost less guys playing up (Colorado, Minnesota, a&m, k-state) as we have either playing down or within our conference.

this would not be the year to make that claim but most years we have lost a guy or two here and there and it would be about 50-50 whether we'd lose more the following weak against a lesser opponent.

Okay, I predict you will have less serious injuries this coming weekend. Did you see Delaney's recent statements about MSU having lost a bunch of players to injury in a play-up game when he coached there, and they almost got fired? Delaney's recent statements are on egriz somewhere, but with all the threads and (dumb) posts, they might not be easy to find. Maybe a coaches show thread.

Player Rep, your basis for having more injuries when playing up is that FBS teams are bigger, stronger and faster. SMU was not bigger or stronger and maybe just very slightly faster. Why so many injuries in that game? Maybe it is because multiple injuries can happen in ANY game. As long as we have no stats on this, nobody really knows!

Or maybe your assessment of SMU's bigger, stronger, faster and better is not accurate.

Are you willing to say that MSU and UM wouldn't have more injuries playing in the SEC, than they do playing in the Big Sky?

From what I saw in that game we were the bigger and stronger team the way we ran the ball. SMU was not that big. There wasn't much of difference in speed. You keep bringing up playing against the SEC would be different and yes maybe that is true. But your premise doesn't hold water with what happend at SMU. If we don't have stats, then your only speculating.

 

[Grizbeer]

I don't know if it is fair to use Roderick in this example because he may have hurt his hand punching his locker when he found out he had been duped into signing by Ash using the ol' "just play receiver for a year then you can be the QB" trick, when Ash knew all along he had the likely 2013 Payton Award winner waiting on the bench. That coming on top of Ash probably telling Roderick that the Griz wouldn't be eligible for the playoffs due to NCAA sanctions was just too much for Roderick to take, and finding out that wasn't true either, may have been too much to take.

I guess you could argue that if MSU had not played SMU, McGhee would not have been injured, Roderick would not have found out about Ash's trickery, and would not have punched his locker and broke his hand. However I read a pretty good authority who went fishing one time who talked to the MSU trainers who said McGhee was too small and was going to get injured and was really just a ticking time bomb, so it is possible he would have been hurt regardless of who they played.

Also even if McGhee didn't get hurt this year, Roderick would have found out next year (probably when the 'Cats open against a DII team) that he never really had a chance to play QB for the 'Cats, and might have broken his hand then as well, and then it would be proof that playing down is more likely to result in injury.

I suppose it is even possible that I made up 100% of this, and none of it is true. I guess we will all have to make our own judgments.

 

[ilovethecats]

I don't know if it is fair to use Roderick in this example because he may have hurt his hand punching his locker when he found out he had been duped into signing by Ash using the ol' "just play receiver for a year then you can be the QB" trick, when Ash knew all along he had the likely 2013 Payton Award winner waiting on the bench. That coming on top of Ash probably telling Roderick that the Griz wouldn't be eligible for the playoffs due to NCAA sanctions was just too much for Roderick to take, and finding out that wasn't true either, may have been too much to take.

I guess you could argue that if MSU had not played SMU, McGhee would not have been injured, Roderick would not have found out about Ash's trickery, and would not have punched his locker and broke his hand. However I read a pretty good authority who went fishing one time who talked to the MSU trainers who said McGhee was too small and was going to get injured and was really just a ticking time bomb, so it is possible he would have been hurt regardless of who they played.

Also even if McGhee didn't get hurt this year, Roderick would have found out next year (probably when the 'Cats open against a DII team) that he never really had a chance to play QB for the 'Cats, and might have broken his hand then as well, and then it would be proof that playing down is more likely to result in injury.

I suppose it is even possible that I made up 100% of this, and none of it is true. I guess we will all have to make our own judgments.

quality post but you forgot "porcelain doll" :thumb:

 

[NLGrizFan]

I don't know if it is fair to use Roderick in this example because he may have hurt his hand punching his locker when he found out he had been duped into signing by Ash using the ol' "just play receiver for a year then you can be the QB" trick, when Ash knew all along he had the likely 2013 Payton Award winner waiting on the bench. That coming on top of Ash probably telling Roderick that the Griz wouldn't be eligible for the playoffs due to NCAA sanctions was just too much for Roderick to take, and finding out that wasn't true either, may have been too much to take.

I guess you could argue that if MSU had not played SMU, McGhee would not have been injured, Roderick would not have found out about Ash's trickery, and would not have punched his locker and broke his hand. However I read a pretty good authority who went fishing one time who talked to the MSU trainers who said McGhee was too small and was going to get injured and was really just a ticking time bomb, so it is possible he would have been hurt regardless of who they played.

Also even if McGhee didn't get hurt this year, Roderick would have found out next year (probably when the 'Cats open against a DII team) that he never really had a chance to play QB for the 'Cats, and might have broken his hand then as well, and then it would be proof that playing down is more likely to result in injury.

I suppose it is even possible that I made up 100% of this, and none of it is true. I guess we will all have to make our own judgments.

I generally don't take the time to read these long drawn out post but, you sir, should be a writer if you're not already doing it :lol: :clap: :thumb:

 

[WILD_CAT]

I don't know if it is fair to use Roderick in this example because he may have hurt his hand punching his locker when he found out he had been duped into signing by Ash using the ol' "just play receiver for a year then you can be the QB" trick, when Ash knew all along he had the likely 2013 Payton Award winner waiting on the bench. That coming on top of Ash probably telling Roderick that the Griz wouldn't be eligible for the playoffs due to NCAA sanctions was just too much for Roderick to take, and finding out that wasn't true either, may have been too much to take.

I guess you could argue that if MSU had not played SMU, McGhee would not have been injured, Roderick would not have found out about Ash's trickery, and would not have punched his locker and broke his hand. However I read a pretty good authority who went fishing one time who talked to the MSU trainers who said McGhee was too small and was going to get injured and was really just a ticking time bomb, so it is possible he would have been hurt regardless of who they played.

Also even if McGhee didn't get hurt this year, Roderick would have found out next year (probably when the 'Cats open against a DII team) that he never really had a chance to play QB for the 'Cats, and might have broken his hand then as well, and then it would be proof that playing down is more likely to result in injury.

I suppose it is even possible that I made up 100% of this, and none of it is true. I guess we will all have to make our own judgments.

Or maybe Roderick is a team player and likes playing WR for that Cats in Cramsey's new system. :thumb:

 

[GrizPony]

Maybe he is a team player and wanted to get injured just like his QB? You know they say you should follow your leader's example.

 

[Chester Cheetah]

I assume you mean smu. that would be a bold prediction this year because we lost a lot last weekend. not typical. i'll do a little digging if I get a chance later but i'm pretty certain over the past few years we have lost less guys playing up (Colorado, Minnesota, a&m, k-state) as we have either playing down or within our conference.

this would not be the year to make that claim but most years we have lost a guy or two here and there and it would be about 50-50 whether we'd lose more the following weak against a lesser opponent.

Okay, I predict you will have less serious injuries this coming weekend. Did you see Delaney's recent statements about MSU having lost a bunch of players to injury in a play-up game when he coached there, and they almost got fired? Delaney's recent statements are on egriz somewhere, but with all the threads and (dumb) posts, they might not be easy to find. Maybe a coaches show thread.

Player Rep, your basis for having more injuries when playing up is that FBS teams are bigger, stronger and faster. SMU was not bigger or stronger and maybe just very slightly faster. Why so many injuries in that game? Maybe it is because multiple injuries can happen in ANY game. As long as we have no stats on this, nobody really knows!

Or maybe your assessment of SMU's bigger, stronger, faster and better is not accurate.

Are you willing to say that MSU and UM wouldn't have more injuries playing in the SEC, than they do playing in the Big Sky?

Evidently the SEC does not have injuries, since they are the biggest, strongest and fastest, is that what you are trying to say?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Okay, I predict you will have less serious injuries this coming weekend. Did you see Delaney's recent statements about MSU having lost a bunch of players to injury in a play-up game when he coached there, and they almost got fired? Delaney's recent statements are on egriz somewhere, but with all the threads and (dumb) posts, they might not be easy to find. Maybe a coaches show thread.

Player Rep, your basis for having more injuries when playing up is that FBS teams are bigger, stronger and faster. SMU was not bigger or stronger and maybe just very slightly faster. Why so many injuries in that game? Maybe it is because multiple injuries can happen in ANY game. As long as we have no stats on this, nobody really knows!

Or maybe your assessment of SMU's bigger, stronger, faster and better is not accurate.

Are you willing to say that MSU and UM wouldn't have more injuries playing in the SEC, than they do playing in the Big Sky?

Evidently the SEC does not have injuries, since they are the biggest, strongest and fastest, is that what you are trying to say?

Yeah, because if something is more likely to happen in scenario A than scenario B, it means that it never happens in scenario B. Good reasoning.

 

[argh!]

wow - greenie said something funny! i will give props when they are deserved, and he gets them (this time).

 

[CDAGRIZ]

wow - greenie said something funny! i will give props when they are deserved, and he gets them (this time).

Who is Greenie?

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Who is Greenie?

He's not Sunshine, that's for sure.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Idiots

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[grizophile]

The Duck game was a bad deal. Loren Utterbeck (37), for one, went down. Not worth it.

Just for the record I believe Utterback broke his foot making a cut and it wasn't a result of contact.

I don't recall how Utterback got hurt, but even an injury making a cut can be caused by trying to get to a faster quicker back. Looks like Hauck thought the injuries were bad at Oregon and UM got beat up, from this Missoulian quote:

"The Grizzlies also had a bear of a schedule and a bevy of injuries. Those two factors weren't necessarily exclusive of each other.

"The problem starts at Oregon," Hauck said, referring to UM's 47-14 loss at the Pac-10 power on Sept. 10. "We got injured, we got beat up - injury-wise, we started to slide downhill there."

In that game sophomore linebacker Loren Utterback suffered a broken foot."

Hauk was notorius for whinning prior to a play up game. I'll bet the NDSU coach cherishes playing up and his teams show that confidence.