Tanner Roderick

[alabamagrizzly]

I wish injuries on no one and hate to see them happen even to our rivals. Not so much that I feel bad for the kids, which I do especially the Sr's that have to miss the season, but I don't want them to have ANY excusses for not playing well. Just like we used JJ and Delany all year last year, now the cats can use all these injuries when they loose. At least McGhee will be back by the cat/griz game

I am not sure DM will be back by Griz/Cat. Too many hypotheticals. Didn't be hurt that shoulder a few years ago in the playoff game against UND? This might be a recurring problem that only surgery will fix. Hopefully not, but this may be bigger than what is being reported.

Non throwing in that game and he still returned to play in that game. This one is throwing which could deffenetly keep him out for the year

 

[Bear Axed]

I suppose it's just a coincidence that so many players, and so many key players, got hurt in a play-up game. If some posters are correct, i.e. that it's more dangerous to play down, the Cats will be decimated after next week's game.

I've been wondering about that and what the heck kind of conditioner they use too.

the shampoo is "no more tears"... :thumb: :egriz:

Well it seems a couple of them were using the wrong stuff? :roll:

 

[PlayerRep]

I suppose it's just a coincidence that so many players, and so many key players, got hurt in a play-up game. If some posters are correct, i.e. that it's more dangerous to play down, the Cats will be decimated after next week's game.

I remember play-up games against Colorado, Wash St-twice, Minnestoa, Kansas St. and Texas A&M and I don't re-call any amount of serious injuries in those games. SMU wasn't bigger or stronger and maybe just slightly faster. Perez was hit by accident by his own man Salanoa. So the comments about more injuries occur because FBS school are bigger, stronger and faster didn't pertain in this case. I remember the Griz playing Tennessee and Oregon and cannot recall hearing about any multiple injuries in those games either. In play-down games I don't recall any specific injuries.

Without stats, we will never know who is right. Things in life are not always what they appear to be. Maybe it's a wash for all we know.

UM had multiple injuries against Oregon and Iowa. At Oregon, UM lost the no. 37 linebacker for multiple games, as well as Varona, I believe. More were hurt. At Iowa, UM lost Johnson (punter) for the season, Swogger broke his thumb/hand, another had a significant injury, and there were more. I recall UM officials saying that, years ago against Wyo., the injuries may have cost UM a national championship. Delaney's recent comments seem to lend credence to the view that play-up games, certainly against top teams, can lead to more injuries.

Again, injuries result in numerous different ways. Sometimes players are injured without contact from anyone else, or from minor things, but over time, there will be more injuries from playing bigger, faster and better teams.

And again, does anyone believe that MSU or UM wouldn't have more injuries if they played, with their existing team, in the SEC conference?

Also, who's going to step up and tell us that the Cats will have more injuries in their D-II game next week, than they had against MSU?

 

[goatcreekgriz]

The Duck game was a bad deal. Loren Utterbeck (37), for one, went down. Not worth it.

 

[Hammer]

The Duck game was a bad deal. Loren Utterbeck (37), for one, went down. Not worth it.

Just for the record I believe Utterback broke his foot making a cut and it wasn't a result of contact.

 

[George Ferguson]

On a different level, but the same type of deal, Carroll playing Portland State last year was a disaster. The Saints put on a good show in that game, but Chance Demarias was never the same after, and he was injured alot even before they ever played up. And trust me, no matter what some Carroll fans think, the pay day from that game was NOT WORTH IT...The Saints went on to their worst season ever under MVD.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

The Duck game was a bad deal. Loren Utterbeck (37), for one, went down. Not worth it.

Just for the record I believe Utterback broke his foot making a cut and it wasn't a result of contact.

Yeah, on the FBS field turf . . . I'd break a foot just walking on that super-crowned FBS field.

 

[PlayerRep]

The Duck game was a bad deal. Loren Utterbeck (37), for one, went down. Not worth it.

Just for the record I believe Utterback broke his foot making a cut and it wasn't a result of contact.

I don't recall how Utterback got hurt, but even an injury making a cut can be caused by trying to get to a faster quicker back. Looks like Hauck thought the injuries were bad at Oregon and UM got beat up, from this Missoulian quote:

"The Grizzlies also had a bear of a schedule and a bevy of injuries. Those two factors weren't necessarily exclusive of each other.

"The problem starts at Oregon," Hauck said, referring to UM's 47-14 loss at the Pac-10 power on Sept. 10. "We got injured, we got beat up - injury-wise, we started to slide downhill there."

In that game sophomore linebacker Loren Utterback suffered a broken foot."

 

[NorthEndZoneDan]

They get no sympathy from me with all the shittalking they did last year about JJ and his court case. I like that they are getting both barrels in the mouth.

FTC

Sincerely
Griz fans everywhere

Speak for yourself. Griz Nation has more class.

 

[kemajic]

Also, who's going to step up and tell us that the Cats will have more injuries in their D-II game next week, than they had against MSU?

Huh? Making sense as usual....

 

[kemajic]

I am not sure DM will be back by Griz/Cat. Too many hypotheticals. Didn't be hurt that shoulder a few years ago in the playoff game against UND?

NDSU, actually. UND has never seen an FCS playoff game.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

They get no sympathy from me with all the shittalking they did last year about JJ and his court case. I like that they are getting both barrels in the mouth.

FTC

Sincerely
Griz fans everywhere

Speak for yourself. Griz Nation has more class.

Exactly! Internet tough guys...

 

[Catsrback76]

I wish injuries on no one and hate to see them happen even to our rivals. Not so much that I feel bad for the kids, which I do especially the Sr's that have to miss the season, but I don't want them to have ANY excusses for not playing well. Just like we used JJ and Delany all year last year, now the cats can use all these injuries when they loose. At least McGhee will be back by the cat/griz game

I am not sure DM will be back by Griz/Cat. Too many hypotheticals. Didn't be hurt that shoulder a few years ago in the playoff game against UND? This might be a recurring problem that only surgery will fix. Hopefully not, but this may be bigger than what is being reported.

I think you're right on here! Sadly, I think we've seen DeNarius play his last game at MSU! I hope I'm wrong for his sake, but I got a bad feeling about this one!


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[NLGrizFan]

I suppose it's just a coincidence that so many players, and so many key players, got hurt in a play-up game. If some posters are correct, i.e. that it's more dangerous to play down, the Cats will be decimated after next week's game.

:lol: :lol:

 

[NLGrizFan]

They get no sympathy from me with all the shittalking they did last year about JJ and his court case. I like that they are getting both barrels in the mouth.

FTC

Sincerely
Griz fans everywhere

I was sayin something like this yesterday and people acted like I assaulted the Virgin Mary or something. But all I said karma and holy $hit...

Grumpy asshole. :thumb:

:lol: Sometimes.

 

[ilovethecats]

Also, who's going to step up and tell us that the Cats will have more injuries in their D-II game next week, than they had against MSU?

I assume you mean smu. that would be a bold prediction this year because we lost a lot last weekend. not typical. i'll do a little digging if I get a chance later but i'm pretty certain over the past few years we have lost less guys playing up (Colorado, Minnesota, a&m, k-state) as we have either playing down or within our conference.

this would not be the year to make that claim but most years we have lost a guy or two here and there and it would be about 50-50 whether we'd lose more the following weak against a lesser opponent.

 

['68griz]

I wish injuries on no one and hate to see them happen even to our rivals. Not so much that I feel bad for the kids, which I do especially the Sr's that have to miss the season, but I don't want them to have ANY excusses for not playing well. Just like we used JJ and Delany all year last year, now the cats can use all these injuries when they loose. At least McGhee will be back by the cat/griz game

I am not sure DM will be back by Griz/Cat. Too many hypotheticals. Didn't be hurt that shoulder a few years ago in the playoff game against UND? This might be a recurring problem that only surgery will fix. Hopefully not, but this may be bigger than what is being reported.

I think you're right on here! Sadly, I think we've seen DeNarius play his last game at MSU! I hope I'm wrong for his sake, but I got a bad feeling about this one!


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Oh, for his sake, I hope not. What an ignominious end to his career that would be.

 

[PlayerRep]

Also, who's going to step up and tell us that the Cats will have more injuries in their D-II game next week, than they had against MSU?

I assume you mean smu. that would be a bold prediction this year because we lost a lot last weekend. not typical. i'll do a little digging if I get a chance later but i'm pretty certain over the past few years we have lost less guys playing up (Colorado, Minnesota, a&m, k-state) as we have either playing down or within our conference.

this would not be the year to make that claim but most years we have lost a guy or two here and there and it would be about 50-50 whether we'd lose more the following weak against a lesser opponent.

Okay, I predict you will have less serious injuries this coming weekend. Did you see Delaney's recent statements about MSU having lost a bunch of players to injury in a play-up game when he coached there, and they almost got fired? Delaney's recent statements are on egriz somewhere, but with all the threads and (dumb) posts, they might not be easy to find. Maybe a coaches show thread.

 

[ilovethecats]

no I didn't and it's really a moot point anyway because I have yet to see any solid stats in regards to injuries and opponents. and I have seen two schools of thought from coaches. some share your opinion that playing up is a sure fire way to get guys hurt. but I know for certain a few coaches believe completely the opposite. that guys are more likely to get hurt playing desperate, inferior teams.

but i'd say in this case your prediction is pretty likely. what did we suffer, four key injuries last game? that's a lot. but I was at the Colorado game as well as the Minnesota game. I don't recall any injuries, and certainly not the amount we saw Saturday.

 

[bigsky33]

Also, who's going to step up and tell us that the Cats will have more injuries in their D-II game next week, than they had against MSU?

I assume you mean smu. that would be a bold prediction this year because we lost a lot last weekend. not typical. i'll do a little digging if I get a chance later but i'm pretty certain over the past few years we have lost less guys playing up (Colorado, Minnesota, a&m, k-state) as we have either playing down or within our conference.

this would not be the year to make that claim but most years we have lost a guy or two here and there and it would be about 50-50 whether we'd lose more the following weak against a lesser opponent.

Okay, I predict you will have less serious injuries this coming weekend. Did you see Delaney's recent statements about MSU having lost a bunch of players to injury in a play-up game when he coached there, and they almost got fired? Delaney's recent statements are on egriz somewhere, but with all the threads and (dumb) posts, they might not be easy to find. Maybe a coaches show thread.

Player Rep, your basis for having more injuries when playing up is that FBS teams are bigger, stronger and faster. SMU was not bigger or stronger and maybe just very slightly faster. Why so many injuries in that game? Maybe it is because multiple injuries can happen in ANY game. As long as we have no stats on this, nobody really knows!