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TAKE SNEED OUT

Coach said:
It's not Sneeds fault the OL can't block. Not a QB problem. Doesn't matter who you put back there they will be a failure

The OL gives him enough time to throw the ball, poorly.
 
MiningCityGrizFan said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
Gresch might be the better QB, but I don't know if he would be doing any better with this OL. Sneed is getting beat up and can't settle in the pocket to throw. Would probably be the same with Jensen.

Rest assured, Gresch is most definitely the better QB.

https://twitter.com/FullCollSports/status/1049770470466154496

And I believe he'd be doing just fine with this OL because defenses have to respect the passing game. He was also more than capable of running the ball. He has a nice running TD in his mid-season highlight film.

https://twitter.com/GreschJensen/status/1049849537404129281

Of course, it doesn't matter now for the Griz... unless he signs with the team from Bozeman.

https://twitter.com/GreschJensen/status/1050903399741280256

He had 277 passing on 20-33 and 69 rushing
 
Fahque said:
MiningCityGrizFan said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
Gresch might be the better QB, but I don't know if he would be doing any better with this OL. Sneed is getting beat up and can't settle in the pocket to throw. Would probably be the same with Jensen.

Rest assured, Gresch is most definitely the better QB.

https://twitter.com/FullCollSports/status/1049770470466154496

And I believe he'd be doing just fine with this OL because defenses have to respect the passing game. He was also more than capable of running the ball. He has a nice running TD in his mid-season highlight film.

https://twitter.com/GreschJensen/status/1049849537404129281

Of course, it doesn't matter now for the Griz... unless he signs with the team from Bozeman.

https://twitter.com/GreschJensen/status/1050903399741280256

He had 277 passing on 20-33 and 69 rushing
I fear his numbers here, with this O line would not be as stellar...which is sad, actually. But yes, he is a fine QB
 
gph1 said:
Sneed had 2 seconds to do something with the ball. the o-line is not maintaining blocks, they make contact and let their man go. I don't think it's Sneed's fault.
same oline for Cam. it looked as if the receivers were more in sync with Cam, they sure looked like
they tried harder to make the catch and more.
 
zirge said:
gph1 said:
Sneed had 2 seconds to do something with the ball. the o-line is not maintaining blocks, they make contact and let their man go. I don't think it's Sneed's fault.
same oline for Cam. it looked as if the receivers were more in sync with Cam, they sure looked like
they tried harder to make the catch and more.

You realize UND was playing 2's and 3's by the time Bobby actually pulled the trigger on Cam though? Their starting secondary is light years ahead of what we saw late.

But I wish he would have given him a whole half of work, 34-0 was not something we were going to overcome anyway, and he looked pretty comfortable.
 
jodcon said:
zirge said:
gph1 said:
Sneed had 2 seconds to do something with the ball. the o-line is not maintaining blocks, they make contact and let their man go. I don't think it's Sneed's fault.
same oline for Cam. it looked as if the receivers were more in sync with Cam, they sure looked like
they tried harder to make the catch and more.

You realize UND was playing 2's and 3's by the time Bobby actually pulled the trigger on Cam though? Their starting secondary is light years ahead of what we saw late.

But I wish he would have given him a whole half of work, 34-0 was not something we were going to overcome anyway, and he looked pretty comfortable.
Cam came in at the with 11:30 left in the 4th are you saying that the 2's and 3's were in at that time..
if the dline did not get subbed out then the argument stills holds, same oline for Cam as Sneed.
cause 2 plays later at the 10:46 mark Cam strikes to Akem for a TD......just checking if you know that
for sure........
 
bigkid said:
I don’t see much changing with sneed in the game. He gets rattled early and never snaps out of it. If a true competition starts every Monday for any position in fact extends to sneed then imo Humphrey should get a fair shake.

"One read sneed" is Bobby's Boy
 
zirge said:
jodcon said:
zirge said:
gph1 said:
Sneed had 2 seconds to do something with the ball. the o-line is not maintaining blocks, they make contact and let their man go. I don't think it's Sneed's fault.
same oline for Cam. it looked as if the receivers were more in sync with Cam, they sure looked like
they tried harder to make the catch and more.

You realize UND was playing 2's and 3's by the time Bobby actually pulled the trigger on Cam though? Their starting secondary is light years ahead of what we saw late.

But I wish he would have given him a whole half of work, 34-0 was not something we were going to overcome anyway, and he looked pretty comfortable.
Cam came in at the with 11:30 left in the 4th are you saying that the 2's and 3's were in at that time..
if the dline did not get subbed out then the argument stills holds, same oline for Cam as Sneed.
cause 2 plays later at the 10:46 mark Cam strikes to Akem for a TD......just checking if you know that
for sure........

I'm not sure exactly when they pulled everybody but after they scored to make it 41-0 they were playing a lot of new numbers, not sure how many of the starters were still in. At that point I wasn't exactly glued to the action anymore lol. Like I said, I wish he would have had a half of work to see what he could have done.
 
I don't think Gresch will end us with the Cats, but God help us if he does. 2019 could be even worse than 2018.
 
MiningCityGrizFan said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
Gresch might be the better QB, but I don't know if he would be doing any better with this OL. Sneed is getting beat up and can't settle in the pocket to throw. Would probably be the same with Jensen.

It's easy to point to the offensive line, but in my opinion, it's not quite that simple.

The OL is struggling because, at this point in the season, defenses know that Sneed's arm is not a threat.

Defenses know they can basically stack the box, take away the underneath routes and then play to stop the run. They don't have to respect the deep ball because Sneed can't throw the deep ball.

That's the formula to beat this offense.

Once they stop playing favorites with Sneed and start playing Humphrey, teams will have to start respecting the deep ball and will have to drop a safety or two into coverage. Once that happens, the running game will open up, the short passing game will open up, and things will start to happen.
I agree completely. Like 100%. Jensen left because of the coaches man crush with Sneed. He made the correct call.
 
KJB said:
bigkid said:
I don’t see much changing with sneed in the game. He gets rattled early and never snaps out of it. If a true competition starts every Monday for any position in fact extends to sneed then imo Humphrey should get a fair shake.

"One read sneed" is Bobby's Boy

:lol:
 
jodcon said:
zirge said:
jodcon said:
zirge said:
same oline for Cam. it looked as if the receivers were more in sync with Cam, they sure looked like
they tried harder to make the catch and more.

You realize UND was playing 2's and 3's by the time Bobby actually pulled the trigger on Cam though? Their starting secondary is light years ahead of what we saw late.

But I wish he would have given him a whole half of work, 34-0 was not something we were going to overcome anyway, and he looked pretty comfortable.
Cam came in at the with 11:30 left in the 4th are you saying that the 2's and 3's were in at that time..
if the dline did not get subbed out then the argument stills holds, same oline for Cam as Sneed.
cause 2 plays later at the 10:46 mark Cam strikes to Akem for a TD......just checking if you know that
for sure........

I'm not sure exactly when they pulled everybody but after they scored to make it 41-0 they were playing a lot of new numbers, not sure how many of the starters were still in. At that point I wasn't exactly glued to the action anymore lol. Like I said, I wish he would have had a half of work to see what he could have done.
i would have liked to have seen that as well. not sure of the dynamics of leaving sneed in if bobby
wants to win games. we have seen recently this more with other teams if your first string is not playing well you bring in your second guy to mix it up, especially if they are good enough to start. wouldn't think that sneed would agree for the sake of the team to support their effort to win. he can always
be given the start the following week to rest assured that he did not lose his pole position, unless it happens again......eventually if there is any real change to replace him it will happen over attrition not in one game or even two.
 
zirge said:
gph1 said:
Sneed had 2 seconds to do something with the ball. the o-line is not maintaining blocks, they make contact and let their man go. I don't think it's Sneed's fault.
same oline for Cam. it looked as if the receivers were more in sync with Cam, they sure looked like
they tried harder to make the catch and more.

Second team D and no blitzes against Humphrey. Please don't tell us that you don't understand this.
 
PlayerRep said:
zirge said:
gph1 said:
Sneed had 2 seconds to do something with the ball. the o-line is not maintaining blocks, they make contact and let their man go. I don't think it's Sneed's fault.
same oline for Cam. it looked as if the receivers were more in sync with Cam, they sure looked like
they tried harder to make the catch and more.

Second team D and no blitzes against Humphrey. Please don't tell us that you don't understand this.

oh i don't know the pass that cam made to akem on the second td he was under pressure and made the play. so it may be as you said, but in reality the protection against the pass was in the same ballpark just not in the same play by play as you would want us to think. in short, i see pressure when it is happening so i do not need a lesson in apples and oranges.
 
Does the fact that Sneed is probably hurt (he was limping a lot today, and looked out of it last week, as well) change anyone's perception of him? Not that that's the main reason his long passes have been off (he's been rough throwing long since spring camp), but I have a feeling it's a big reason why the entire offense has struggled with him as of late.

I do think Hauck should give Cam a good, long look over the next two weeks to see if he can offer a spark, though.
 
zirge said:
PlayerRep said:
zirge said:
gph1 said:
Sneed had 2 seconds to do something with the ball. the o-line is not maintaining blocks, they make contact and let their man go. I don't think it's Sneed's fault.
same oline for Cam. it looked as if the receivers were more in sync with Cam, they sure looked like
they tried harder to make the catch and more.

Second team D and no blitzes against Humphrey. Please don't tell us that you don't understand this.

oh i don't know the pass that cam made to akem on the second td he was under pressure and made the play. so it may be as you said, but in reality the protection against the pass was in the same ballpark just not in the same play by play as you would want us to think. in short, i see pressure when it is happening so i do not need a lesson in apples and oranges.

Huh, please put In English, so we can evaluate.
 
PlayerRep said:
zirge said:
PlayerRep said:
zirge said:
same oline for Cam. it looked as if the receivers were more in sync with Cam, they sure looked like
they tried harder to make the catch and more.

Second team D and no blitzes against Humphrey. Please don't tell us that you don't understand this.

oh i don't know the pass that cam made to akem on the second td he was under pressure and made the play. so it may be as you said, but in reality the protection against the pass was in the same ballpark just not in the same play by play as you would want us to think. in short, i see pressure when it is happening so i do not need a lesson in apples and oranges.

Huh, please put In English, so we can evaluate.
pretty simple really, you do not need to blitz to put pressure on the qb to see if he is capable of making the play under pressure. another perspective would be that sneed's overthrows were not all made under blitz pressure......get it now?
 
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