T. Poole Coming Back

[HighLineGRIZ]

The athlete code wouldn't appear to call for, or even authorize, anything close to a 4-6 game suspension (altho I don't know the details of how the charges were dropped or have faded away). Maybe 1 game, is what the code seems to indicate (again, dependent on exactly what has happened to the charges). He already sat out winter conditioning and spring ball. The coach can certainly impose more, but I would think the suspension from late last October to now would be taken into account. Note that he already missed several games last fall.

By the way, I think summer voluntary conditioning/practice started this week, maybe yesterday.

If it's your opinion PR, that the punishment should follow the code, it's a reasonable opinion. I just don't share it. You are right, if this happened in any other program in another city, his punishment would have likely been less severe. However, with where our program was and with the overall reputation of our program and players as low as it was (fair or not), much stricter punishment had to be given. I'm sure Trevor is a great kid and I've heard a lot of nice things about his family, but the kid made a terrible and selfish decision that was damaging to the reputation of the team at a time when it was the last thing needed. I'm all for allowing him back on the team if he has all the legalities and other distractions taken care of, but I think he should be without scholarship this year and prove that he deserves to get it back spring semester. Again, this is my opinion. I won't be around today to defend it, but I think that's the type of discipline that is needed beyond the code.

Best of luck to Trevor. He is one of our better OL and probably our best option at LT, which is a crucial position.

 

[grizrgood]

http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60862&hilit=trevor+poole

don't have to go much farther than this thread to see there was plenty of people that thought he'd be back and welcomed him back.

Yeah, of all the thugs and derelicts the fizz have had get into trouble, this guy is probably the least troublesome and probably deserves a 2nd chance.

God I can't wait for November! Watching the cat fans on their trail of tears as they exit the kitty box in shame and despair sometime in the middle of the 3erd quarter....Again.

Kind of like the exodus from wa wa fizz stadium last year :lol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvYNBDFxy28[/youtube]

You are so f@ckin ignorant!! :roll: Cat fans should honestly just leave that subject alone! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[GrizPony]

We left right after the game ended because we know how crazed you perennial losers get after a rare win, what with all the sheep and cousin breedin' and all.

 

[PlayerRep]

The athlete code wouldn't appear to call for, or even authorize, anything close to a 4-6 game suspension (altho I don't know the details of how the charges were dropped or have faded away). Maybe 1 game, is what the code seems to indicate (again, dependent on exactly what has happened to the charges). He already sat out winter conditioning and spring ball. The coach can certainly impose more, but I would think the suspension from late last October to now would be taken into account. Note that he already missed several games last fall.

By the way, I think summer voluntary conditioning/practice started this week, maybe yesterday.

If it's your opinion PR, that the punishment should follow the code, it's a reasonable opinion. I just don't share it. You are right, if this happened in any other program in another city, his punishment would have likely been less severe. However, with where our program was and with the overall reputation of our program and players as low as it was (fair or not), much stricter punishment had to be given. I'm sure Trevor is a great kid and I've heard a lot of nice things about his family, but the kid made a terrible and selfish decision that was damaging to the reputation of the team at a time when it was the last thing needed. I'm all for allowing him back on the team if he has all the legalities and other distractions taken care of, but I think he should be without scholarship this year and prove that he deserves to get it back spring semester. Again, this is my opinion. I won't be around today to defend it, but I think that's the type of discipline that is needed beyond the code.

Best of luck to Trevor. He is one of our better OL and probably our best option at LT, which is a crucial position.

You don't think the university should follow its recently written and more strict athletic code? Do they have a choice?

I don't know or have any strong feelings regarding a scholarship in the fall. However, if the family is willing to pay for the fall, not having a schollie doesn't punish the kid. If it makes you or others feel better that he doesn't have a schollie even when he's back on the team, then great. If the coach doesn't want to give the schollie back now, or there isn't one available, that's fine/great too.

The kid made a mistake. No doubt about that. A "terrible and selfish" decision? You're welcome to your opinion. Kids make a thousand or more similar mistakes every week; they just don't get caught or are cut some slack. Yes, it was too bad for Poole and the program, but I just can't get as outraged on this one as you apparently are. It was obviously a horrible and embarrassing experience for him. I'm sure he learned alot from it. I'm glad it appears to be working out for him. I wish him all the luck and success he get and achieve.

 

[Umista]

The main point is this: The Griz beat the cat peeing team with or without Poole. Enough said.

 

[uofmman1122]

In a football sense, great to see him coming back. Our O-Line has the potential to be the best in FCS next year.

That said, I think what he did was monumentally stupid, but hopefully he's learned from it.

He's already missed two games, all of winter conditioning, and spring ball, plus probably lost his scholarship.

I don't think suspending him more games during this year is necessary. :twocents:

 

[catdaddy7]

Totally agree with bringing him back. He screwed up, got in trouble, paid the
consequences and I'm guessing is regretful. Education comes in many forms. My
guess would be he atones for his actions and graduates a better citizen and person.
Kinda what colleges do. :thumb:

 

[kemajic]

if you want this stuff to keep happening, keep being soft on it. the only thing reasoned about that approach is it's a good way to prolong the problems. sitting the bench will wake these guys up. all this athlete code b.s. is just that. poole needs to ride the pine, not have mommy and daddy pay for a year of school. you don't want that because it might affect the quality of the team on the field. win at all costs much?

So we should follow the hard line taken on Nate Bignell, booked into jail for theft, not a victimless chrime? Did he even get a slap on the wrist? I see he is still on the roster. Poole has not been.

 

[tnt]

Bank on it.

I thought he had to serve half of the deferred sentence. When does the time start October or January? If in Jan wouldn't he miss fall camp???

 

[getgrizzy]

if you want this stuff to keep happening, keep being soft on it. the only thing reasoned about that approach is it's a good way to prolong the problems. sitting the bench will wake these guys up. all this athlete code b.s. is just that. poole needs to ride the pine, not have mommy and daddy pay for a year of school. you don't want that because it might affect the quality of the team on the field. win at all costs much?

So we should follow the hard line taken on Nate Bignell, booked into jail for theft, not a victimless chrime? Did he even get a slap on the wrist? I see he is still on the roster. Poole has not been.

does nate bignell go to school here? didn't think so. one thing we shouldn't do is compare our situation to another schools situation. mizzou kicked a player off the team that was charged with sexual assault. so much for that, eh? the problem here is that too many people are more concerned with winning than they are any real discipline. having poole's parents foot the bill for one year of college isn't much of a penalty for poole. the school needs to had down some real consequences. according to arrestnation.com we've had more football players get in trouble in the last three years than any f.c.s. program in the country and the third most of any division one football program. probably more than any school in the past six years, but their database doesn't go back that far.

 

[hokeyfine]

good to see that Tinkle has some guts. :clap:

 

[grizcountry420]

good to see that Tinkle has some guts. :clap:

That was a no brainer though.. Repeat offender

 

[GrizPony]

Bank on it.

I thought he had to serve half of the deferred sentence. When does the time start October or January? If in Jan wouldn't he miss fall camp???

We will know whether he is fully reinstated within a week.

 

[hokeyfine]

good to see that Tinkle has some guts. :clap:

That was a no brainer though.. Repeat offender

only charged, not convicted..... so not yet a repeat offender...... appears it doesn't matter to tinkle what the courts decide, good for him.

 

[kemajic]

if you want this stuff to keep happening, keep being soft on it. the only thing reasoned about that approach is it's a good way to prolong the problems. sitting the bench will wake these guys up. all this athlete code b.s. is just that. poole needs to ride the pine, not have mommy and daddy pay for a year of school. you don't want that because it might affect the quality of the team on the field. win at all costs much?

So we should follow the hard line taken on Nate Bignell, booked into jail for theft, not a victimless chrime? Did he even get a slap on the wrist? I see he is still on the roster. Poole has not been.

does nate bignell go to school here? didn't think so. one thing we shouldn't do is compare our situation to another schools situation. mizzou kicked a player off the team that was charged with sexual assault. so much for that, eh? the problem here is that too many people are more concerned with winning than they are any real discipline. having poole's parents foot the bill for one year of college isn't much of a penalty for poole. the school needs to had down some real consequences. according to arrestnation.com we've had more football players get in trouble in the last three years than any f.c.s. program in the country and the third most of any division one football program. probably more than any school in the past six years, but their database doesn't go back that far.

Self appointed judge on soap box. You're acting as if Poole has not had any discipline. He was suspended off the team immediately for a victimless chrime. He missed games when he didn't even "ride the pine." He missed all of spring ball and has been off the roster since November. You have no idea how hard his parents came down on him. Get off your self-rightious cloud; he has paid his dues, painfully so.

 

[KoolMoeDee]

Self appointed judge on soap box. You're acting as if Poole has not had any discipline. He was suspended off the team immediately for a victimless chrime. He missed games when he didn't even "ride the pine." He missed all of spring ball and has been off the roster since November. You have no idea how hard his parents came down on him. Get off your self-rightious cloud; he has paid his dues, painfully so.

Didn't you bring up Bignell without knowing what he had to do ?

 

[griz4life]

according to arrestnation.com we've had more football players get in trouble in the last three years than any f.c.s. program in the country and the third most of any division one football program. probably more than any school in the past six years, but their database doesn't go back that far.

Their database is also based on news articles, not arrest records. Given the level of attention newspapers in larger communities pay to FCS football, I wouldn't put much stock into arrestnation.com rankings. The Oregonian archives, for example doesn't have a police report involving a PSU football player in the last six years. Nothing against the Vikings, but I doubt that's an accurate account of PSU's football team.
Not every FCS community has a Missoulian.

 

[tnt]

Bank on it.

I thought he had to serve half of the deferred sentence. When does the time start October or January? If in Jan wouldn't he miss fall camp???

We will know whether he is fully reinstated within a week.

Great!!

 

[AZGrizFan]

http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60862&hilit=trevor+poole

don't have to go much farther than this thread to see there was plenty of people that thought he'd be back and welcomed him back.

Yeah, of all the thugs and derelicts the fizz have had get into trouble, this guy is probably the least troublesome and probably deserves a 2nd chance.

God I can't wait for November! Watching the cat fans on their trail of tears as they exit the kitty box in shame and despair sometime in the middle of the 3erd quarter....Again.

Kind of like the exodus from wa wa fizz stadium last year :lol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvYNBDFxy28[/youtube]

And you show a video of the last play of the fucking game to prove how OUR exodus was comparable to YOUR exodus in the THIRD QUARTER? :lol: :x :?

 

[KoolMoeDee]

And you show a video of the last play of the f***[*] game to prove how OUR exodus was comparable to YOUR exodus in the THIRD QUARTER? :lol: :x :?

Is that the pic that people like to post that clearly shows the score in the 4th ?