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Summer position discussion: Offensive Line

kemajic said:
argh! said:
Spanky2 said:
AZGrizFan said:
I would opine that we are set better at O-line for depth than we are at CB.
AZ, you may be correct. The difference is we now have first rate coaches who are qualified to teach our student-athletes.

you mean the same coaches they've had since they got here(bqm) germer, nicholson, schillinger... you bobby sycophants are funny.
The funny sycophants are those academic geeks who think they know something about this subject from 2669 miles away. People that know something about football understand that these coaches coach the schemes that come down from the OC. Our last OC knew little about successful run blocking schemes against DI defenses, instead opting for zone blocking which was little more than pillow fights. Benefited his passing game, which is all he cared about. With our new experienced DI OC, these coaches will now be able to coach schemes they are familiar with and know to be the way to attack DI defenses. Pulls, trap, double teams, actually knocking people down instead of just pushing. Along with a scary quick QB capable of breaking long gains. The run game will be far more than just setting up the pass. Click copy/save on your poor keyboard (bqm).

I'm looking forward to getting to see what the new blocking below the waist rule does to formations and line play; e.g., only linemen within the tackles and less than five yards beyond the line of scrimmage can block below the waist.

I would assume we'll see an increase in down blocking and isolation by pulling TEs and FBs on the weakside on smaller LBs and I pity the safety on that side.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Question: Didn’t Bobby use zone blocking his first go-round here?
Yes, Phen-Phen used some when appropriate, not routine. What BH and his OC now know about the run game goes far beyond his Montana days. I'm sure they will use some zone blocking, but there are many more wrinkles available for run blocking schemes. Go back and watch some SDSU film. BH didn't coach it, but as assistant HC, he sure as hell learned it.
 
kemajic said:
AZGrizFan said:
Question: Didn’t Bobby use zone blocking his first go-round here?
Yes, Phen-Phen used some when appropriate, not routine. What BH and his OC now know about the run game goes far beyond his Montana days. I'm sure they will use some zone blocking, but there are many more wrinkles available for run blocking schemes. Go back and watch some SDSU film. BH didn't coach it, but as assistant HC, he sure as hell learned it.

Thanks...I thought it was pretty much the blocking philosophy back then with the big Humphreys/Hilliard/Reynolds backs and focus on the running game...
 
AZGrizFan said:
kemajic said:
AZGrizFan said:
Question: Didn’t Bobby use zone blocking his first go-round here?
Yes, Phen-Phen used some when appropriate, not routine. What BH and his OC now know about the run game goes far beyond his Montana days. I'm sure they will use some zone blocking, but there are many more wrinkles available for run blocking schemes. Go back and watch some SDSU film. BH didn't coach it, but as assistant HC, he sure as hell learned it.

Thanks...I thought it was pretty much the blocking philosophy back then with the big Humphreys/Hilliard/Reynolds backs and focus on the running game...

Because of having a few smallish running backs over the past few years, there is allot of references made to the good old days when the Griz had "big backs". That is really not the case. Both Humphrey and Reynolds played here at about 190-195lbs. Hilliard and Green were more the exception than the norm.
 
Raider said:
AZGrizFan said:
kemajic said:
AZGrizFan said:
Question: Didn’t Bobby use zone blocking his first go-round here?
Yes, Phen-Phen used some when appropriate, not routine. What BH and his OC now know about the run game goes far beyond his Montana days. I'm sure they will use some zone blocking, but there are many more wrinkles available for run blocking schemes. Go back and watch some SDSU film. BH didn't coach it, but as assistant HC, he sure as hell learned it.

Thanks...I thought it was pretty much the blocking philosophy back then with the big Humphreys/Hilliard/Reynolds backs and focus on the running game...

Because of having a few smallish running backs over the past few years, there is allot of references made to the good old days when the Griz had "big backs". That is really not the case. Both Humphrey and Reynolds played here at about 190-195lbs. Hilliard and Green were more the exception than the norm.

They weren’t 5’8” though.
 
The funny sycophants are those academic geeks who think they know something about this subject from 2669 miles away. People that know something about football understand that these coaches coach the schemes that come down from the OC. Our last OC knew little about successful run blocking schemes against DI defenses, instead opting for zone blocking which was little more than pillow fights. Benefited his passing game, which is all he cared about. With our new experienced DI OC, these coaches will now be able to coach schemes they are familiar with and know to be the way to attack DI defenses. Pulls, trap, double teams, actually knocking people down instead of just pushing. Along with a scary quick QB capable of breaking long gains. The run game will be far more than just setting up the pass. Click copy/save on your poor keyboard (bqm).
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he wrote "coaches" not "scheme". and it is 6,580 miles.
 
I was an adjunct o-line guy, and regardless of blocking scheme, nothing seemed remotely like a “pillow fight” to me.

The old running game was inside zone. I’d suggest the new one will take into consideration the other portions of the field that we’re heretofore ignored, in this case, five feet either side of the center. Looks like they’ve got a stable of horses to take advantage of the opportunity.
 
atomik235 said:
Anyone know if the NCAA has voted yet on changing the Redshirt Rules?



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NVM found the article, they tabled the vote for this year, so no changes.


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argh! said:
The funny sycophants are those academic geeks who think they know something about this subject from 2669 miles away. People that know something about football understand that these coaches coach the schemes that come down from the OC. Our last OC knew little about successful run blocking schemes against DI defenses, instead opting for zone blocking which was little more than pillow fights. Benefited his passing game, which is all he cared about. With our new experienced DI OC, these coaches will now be able to coach schemes they are familiar with and know to be the way to attack DI defenses. Pulls, trap, double teams, actually knocking people down instead of just pushing. Along with a scary quick QB capable of breaking long gains. The run game will be far more than just setting up the pass. Click copy/save on your poor keyboard (bqm).

he wrote "coaches" not "scheme". and it is 6,580 miles.
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The OC is a coach. The coach in this case.
 
bgbigdog said:
BW - any word on how Jackson is progressing in the rehab after surgery?

Nothing I personally told to me but he seemed fairly optimistic about his progression this spring that I could tell
 
atomik235 said:
Anyone know if the NCAA has voted yet on changing the Redshirt Rules?



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Was that the one where you could play in up to 4 games with no repurcussion to your eligibility?
 
argh! said:
kemajic said:
The funny sycophants are those academic geeks who think they know something about this subject from 2669 miles away. People that know something about football understand that these coaches coach the schemes that come down from the OC. Our last OC knew little about successful run blocking schemes against DI defenses, instead opting for zone blocking which was little more than pillow fights. Benefited his passing game, which is all he cared about. With our new experienced DI OC, these coaches will now be able to coach schemes they are familiar with and know to be the way to attack DI defenses. Pulls, trap, double teams, actually knocking people down instead of just pushing. Along with a scary quick QB capable of breaking long gains. The run game will be far more than just setting up the pass. Click copy/save on your poor keyboard (bqm).

he wrote "coaches" not "scheme". and it is 6,580 miles.

Man, you're removed from Griz football than AzGrizfan.
 
HookedonGriz said:
atomik235 said:
Anyone know if the NCAA has voted yet on changing the Redshirt Rules?



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Was that the one where you could play in up to 4 games with no repurcussion to your eligibility?
Yes any 4 games during the season


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atomik235 said:
HookedonGriz said:
atomik235 said:
Anyone know if the NCAA has voted yet on changing the Redshirt Rules?



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Was that the one where you could play in up to 4 games with no repurcussion to your eligibility?
Yes any 4 games during the season


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The rule makes way too much sense for the NCAA to pass it.
 

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