TheRadiers
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Well I've heard rumor that a former NFL player is interested in coaching the d-line but it's just a rumor. So, my rumor is better than your rumor!!
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Suggestions for Defensive Line Coach
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My rumor is also a ex NFL player.....but did not play Dline so doesn't make sense to me. I see two positional hires needed, if Semore is DC. One is Dline, but just because a guy played in NFL at a different position doesn't mean a great Dline hire...TheRadiers said:
He's currently helping with special teams and if (as most presume) Semore is named the DC then this guy will probably take the ST job at the very least. I don't think he has any experience coaching D-line so not sure if he'd pull that duty as well... I could see Semore continuing to work with the safeties - much like Breske did when he was last here.
CV Griz Fan
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Ursus1 said:
Agreeing to the need of two dominating DTs and getting two dominating DTs are two TOTALLY different propositions.....
CV Griz Fan
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Ursus1 said:
First of all, Tonga was probably a little bit of a fluke coming to UM. I don't really know the story but 300lb plus guys that can move are few and far between in all of football. Does NDSU even have that type of player on their roster? Maybe their approach is different....
CV Griz Fan said:
NDSU listed 5 DT's bigger than our biggest (who was 275). They did have one "little one" at 274... but only a freshman so likely 290+ when breaks the lineup. Jacksonville lists their top 4 as 290, 300, 322, 330. Jacksonville has gone the FBS route...started season with 4 SEC transfers on the dline, now only 3 due to injury.
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Ursus1 said:
Well that's an interesting match up. We'll see what happens. I do agree with your assessment of UM's DT needs.
George Ferguson
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What exactly is a top-level FCS defensive tackle recruit vs an FBS defensive tackle recruit? I don't see the difference. If you're 300 pounds and have decent footwork at the high school level, you are an FBS recruit at DT. Sure, some of them go to places like North Texas, the MAC and the Sun Belt, places where some Griz fans think they shouldn't go, or the Baker kid who took a last-minute ride to New Mexico over the Griz last year. But, they are still FBS recruits.
DT and CB are almost impossible for the FCS schools, even Montana and North Dakota state, to get what we would consider "top-level" recruits. You have to get lucky with the next level down of player and hope you can coach them up and strength and condition them up. Sure, every once in a while, a Trumaine Johnson comes your way at corner, but honestly, even for UM or NDSU or EWU, how often is that? Even Tonga only started full time for two years. He never beat out Bienneman for the starting NT job. Did it turn out that Tonga could have played NT at the FBS level? I think the answer is yes. But, he didn't start out that way. He was recruited mostly by FCS schools, sat his time, was coached up by Legi and others, and was a force by his late sophomore, full-time junior year.
DT and CB are almost impossible for the FCS schools, even Montana and North Dakota state, to get what we would consider "top-level" recruits. You have to get lucky with the next level down of player and hope you can coach them up and strength and condition them up. Sure, every once in a while, a Trumaine Johnson comes your way at corner, but honestly, even for UM or NDSU or EWU, how often is that? Even Tonga only started full time for two years. He never beat out Bienneman for the starting NT job. Did it turn out that Tonga could have played NT at the FBS level? I think the answer is yes. But, he didn't start out that way. He was recruited mostly by FCS schools, sat his time, was coached up by Legi and others, and was a force by his late sophomore, full-time junior year.
CV Griz Fan
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Ursus1 said:
Good point. Don't forget NDSU's FG kicker. He could be a liability in this game. QB? Hmmm.....
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havgrizfan said:
Totally agree....Which was my point on Tonga. NDSU is using an alternate strategy for Dline dominance...Tonga was an anomaly at UM.
But then again, so were Tru, Green and Wilson....But that's the UM story. Under the radar Montana home grown studs combined with some well placed out of state under evaluated talent........ Or as Hav says, get lucky...
UM lost Baker to FBS, that's going to happen a lot (same as will this year with DJ Davidson ). Ena was an offer maybe they shouldn't have made, too many question marks had to have been there with him academically. Hopefully they didn't lose a kid that would have come with a full ride offer that didn't get the offer with coaches keeping it for Ena. This year hopefully the offers are there for ones they have a real shot at landing. If not, JC or FBS transfers will be the likely route. After watching Wilson go from fullback to a decent DT, makes me question why they can't convert some OL guys who played DT in high school to make a switch since the size is there. But we don't even know who the D coordinator or D line coach even are so kind of a tough sell to kids and parents when no none is named (even if it is secret to coaches it makes it somewhat bizarre to not name them, or him)
bgbigdog said:
Sadly no, as an official alumnus of the UM my eligibility is used up.
However my coaching skill will really impress.
"Run fast at the QB"
"Shed blocks"
"Tackle the running back"
Age-old technique and teaching style that these kids will really respond to