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Stitt's Ego/Inflexibility

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This post simply stated that Stitt has adapted some of his more "sacred" coaching philosophies to acommodate the players he has NOW and offered EXAMPLES like...

"He's removed a good portion of the playbook to simplify things for his (now) starting QB. He's gone almost exclusively to a zone-read option type game. I could count on one hand the number of fly sweeps we've seen in the past 3 games. I don't think there was a SINGLE bubble-screen in Saturday's game. More slant passes Saturday than the rest of the season combined. He's completely stopped going for it on 4th down (with ONE exception on Saturday), instead playing the field position game. An offense that was supposed to be about 65/35 pass/run is instead almost exactly 50/50 after 9 games. He's slowed the game down significantly, with less concern for # of plays run, going away from his "exhaust the defense" philosophy....

The question was, does this indicate that Bob Stitt has stowed some "ego" and began adjusting to Big Sky football... or NOT ?

Somehow it's become a personal pissing match about whether or not who, if any, current Griz is worth a shit.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
..but I am pretty sure that I have never posted anything about Stitt being the next Belicheck or anyting....
And I never posted that Makena Simis was the second coming of Dave Dickenson either, it's just somebody talking to you the way you talk ... .


I couldn't come up with any all-conference 3rd string QB's to use...
 
Spanky said:
The current edition of the Griz have a couple of player groups that are Frontier Conference level.

You are going to cause Glendive to blow a gasket with that nonsense.... 8-)
 
grizindabox said:
Glendivegriz said:
Sh*t. lol. Who has the glasses on. I have watched the games. You post and post without much logic. It's obvious you think Stitt is the next coming when the results so far don't suggest that is the case. I'm not saying it will not improve but, there does seem to be a commonality running throughout the season that suggests the talent is not the only issue. We don't execute and the in game decisions at times are suspect. That is a coaching issue.

Funny....I am pretty sure that all I have stated is that the Griz lack overall talent....I have posted in other threads that people better be ready for another sub-optimal season next year and then maybe start seeing some results in year 3 and 4...but I am pretty sure that I have never posted anything about Stitt being the next Belicheck or anyting....

Back to the talent....I would love to see you support the argument that UM has good overall talent...you can start with the QB and OL position...


I have conceded the OL. QB is a different matter. Lack of experience yes. Lack of talent I don't agree. Stitt started with more than a handful of QB's in the spring. Most were talked about here when recruited. None seem to lack arm strength. Simis has a running ability. Gus has size. Chalich has was prototypical for this level. I doubt few FCS school's could have reached to the third string and had a Simis on the bench. If talent were the only measure then Jay Cutler would be an MVP in the NFL. When Stitt slowed the tempo in the UND game, Simis played well.
 
Glendivegriz said:
grizindabox said:
Glendivegriz said:
Sh*t. lol. Who has the glasses on. I have watched the games. You post and post without much logic. It's obvious you think Stitt is the next coming when the results so far don't suggest that is the case. I'm not saying it will not improve but, there does seem to be a commonality running throughout the season that suggests the talent is not the only issue. We don't execute and the in game decisions at times are suspect. That is a coaching issue.

Funny....I am pretty sure that all I have stated is that the Griz lack overall talent....I have posted in other threads that people better be ready for another sub-optimal season next year and then maybe start seeing some results in year 3 and 4...but I am pretty sure that I have never posted anything about Stitt being the next Belicheck or anyting....

Back to the talent....I would love to see you support the argument that UM has good overall talent...you can start with the QB and OL position...


I have conceded the OL. QB is a different matter. Lack of experience yes. Lack of talent I don't agree. Stitt started with more than a handful of QB's in the spring. Most were talked about here when recruited. None seem to lack arm strength. Simis has a running ability. Gus has size. Chalich has was prototypical for this level. I doubt few FCS school's could have reached to the third string and had a Simis on the bench. If talent were the only measure then Jay Cutler would be an MVP in the NFL. When Stitt slowed the tempo in the UND game, Simis played well.

How about when he slowed the tempo at ISU....
 
grizindabox said:
How about when he slowed the tempo at ISU....
You just make stuff up, don't you?

The ISU game saw the most plays during the game of any of the three games Makena played in, and more than in any game Brady played, including the NDSU game.

Makena, plays, TOP (Min), TPP (Sec)
ISU, 93, 30:07, 19:26 (W)
PSU: 83, 26:03, 18:50 (L)
UND: 69, 33:41, 29:17 (W)

Brady
Liberty 20, 6:48, 20:24 (L)
Cal Poly 92, 24:22, 15:53 (L)
NDSU 92, 24:44, 16:08 (W)

Liberty (entire game)
67, 23:47, 21:00

FYI
Weber 72, 23:36, 19:40
UC Davis 97, 28:06, 17:23
NAU 89, 29:56, 20:11

The average ISU play of 19:26 was faster than the average of all UM games this year (19:41). Not only were the play times faster than the season average, the number of plays was 18% greater than the UM season average (78).

"Slowed the tempo?"

Stitt tried to play exactly at the centerpiece of his strategy, more than 90 plays, moving fast. This was, in fact, an "adjustment" clearly away from the conditions that were successful for Makena in the UND game and to what Stitt instead wants to run.
 
it is pretty simple really, the offense has been dumb down to being plain and simple, while the defense has been over pursuing to compensate for the lack of offensive confidence and stature.
on saturday
our offense scored 2 touchdowns and 2 field goals=20pts
our defense scored 2 touchdowns=13
not something I think we can count on to win the next 2 games.
hope some of you are right that stitts has a different look on offense starting saturday
and that ty has made some adjustments as well
 
You know what I can't stand??? Posters on here that assume you can come to a program with a new playbook and the old players who complimented another system and think it won't take any time to see success at any level. Stitt is a effin' mastermind at what he does and when he gets the players he recruits we will see some change. Keep in mind that he, like any coach has targeted some kids we won't get and will have to take what the good Lord offers us... but the difference is, they will at least have been identified as desirable by his program. All that talk of the big show...this is FCS people, not FBS. Even some FBS programs suck, so just sit down and wait like the rest of us. It's coming.
 
XxSpectrexX said:
Keep in mind that he, like any coach has targeted some kids we won't get and will have to take what the good Lord offers us... but the difference is, they will at least have been identified as desirable by his program.
Which of the current players are not? All of them?

Do some of you guys think before you hit the "send" button. Thanks for supporting, you know, the team, the players, the kids out there busting their butts every day for the ingrates in the fan community.

This is fantasy. What players that have been recruited that would not be on the team? And ones that he would have recruited that chose to go elsewhere? He gets them ... how?

There's just a whole class of exceptional high school talent out there that UM somehow missed? That can fit "Stitt's strategy?" Who? How? Because so many high school coaches are coaching Stitt's strategy so he can pick the kids right out?
 
Meanwhile Stitt, his coaching staff, and his current players are putting together a game plan to try and beat ewu. I for one think we have plenty of talent to do it. :thumb:
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
How about when he slowed the tempo at ISU....
You just make stuff up, don't you?

The ISU game saw the most plays during the game of any of the three games Makena played in, and more than in any game Brady played, including the NDSU game.

Makena, plays, TOP (Min), TPP (Sec)
ISU, 93, 30:07, 19.26 (W)
PSU: 83, 26:03, 18:50 (L)
UND: 69, 26:19, 22.53 (W)

Brady
Liberty 20, 6:48, 20:24 (L)
Cal Poly 92, 24:22, 15:53 (L)
NDSU 92, 24:44, 16:08 (W)

Liberty (entire game)
67, 23:47, 21:00

FYI
Weber 72, 23:36, 19:40
UC Davis 97, 28:06, 17:23
NAU 89, 29:56, 20:11

The average ISU play of 19:26 was faster than the average of all UM games this year (19:41). Not only were the play times faster than the season average, the number of plays was 18% greater than the UM season average (78).

"Slowed the tempo?"

Stitt tried to play exactly at the centerpiece of his strategy, more than 90 plays, moving fast. This was, in fact, an "adjustment" clearly away from the conditions that were successful for Makena in the UND game and to what Stitt instead wants to run.


Fixed a mistake you made....
 
We all get it, 75 believes that Stitt is a clueless twit that has no idea what he is doing and he has the stats to prove it...
 
bigkid said:
Meanwhile Stitt, his coaching staff, and his current players are putting together a game plan to try and beat ewu. I for one think we have plenty of talent to do it. :thumb:

The same team that's 4-2 in its last six.

Christ on a crutch, you'd think we were 2-7.
 
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grizindabox said:
We all get it, 75 believes that Stitt is a clueless twit that has no idea what he is doing and he has the stats to prove it...
Ah, the nice hyperbole. Substitutes nicely for not having anything to actually say. "We all get it, grizindabox thinks that Stitt is the Second Coming, and cannot make a mistake." See how that fits nicely with your mode of conversation.

I am comparing stats. They speak for themselves. You are the one wishing to make all the conclusions. Without anything to back anything you say up. If you disagree, it's easy to say so. It takes a lot more energy to do what you are doing hyperventilating trying to argue that the numbers mean the opposite of what they mean. And looking like an obnoxious fool in the process.
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizindabox said:
We all get it, 75 believes that Stitt is a clueless twit that has no idea what he is doing and he has the stats to prove it...
Ah, the nice hyperbole. Substitutes nicely for not having anything to actually say. "We all get it, grizindabox thinks that Stitt is the Second Coming, and cannot make a mistake." See how that fits nicely with your mode of conversation.

I am comparing stats. They speak for themselves. You are the one wishing to make all the conclusions. Without anything to back anything you say up. If you disagree, it's easy to say so. It takes a lot more energy to do what you are doing hyperventilating trying to argue that the numbers mean the opposite of what they mean. And looking like an obnoxious fool in the process.

Guess what, I have not said a single thing about how I feel Stitt will do....what I have stated is the Simis is not a very good QB at this time....


I also did a poll....and my stats from such poll are 97% of egriz posters that replied believe 75 is a retired number cruncher that has never played the game....the other 3% just thought he was a twit...take it for what it is worth...but stats never lie...
 
grizindabox said:
I also did a poll....and my stats from such poll are 97% of egriz posters that replied believe 75 is a retired number cruncher that has never played the game....the other 3% just thought he was a twit...take it for what it is worth...but stats never lie...
That's kind of all you've got, and kind of who you are, isn't it?

No need to take it personally. You are an idiot without my personal opinion having anything to do with it. :)
 
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