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Stitts and Reads Offense

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BillingsMafia

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I'm jacked on this offense. Stitts knows what it takes to win at this level and his offense is very close to Reads.
Does anyone one remember if Reads offense used tight ends? I cannot think of who the tight end was on the 95 team.
 
Marc Bebout was always listed as the starting TE. Not many catches, or snaps for that matter but he was always listed as a starter in the 1995 offense, Bebout was also the only tight end on the 1995 roster. Dallas Neil was a true freshman on that team, but was only listed as a punter. He didn't record a catch until his junior season.
 
There is no resemblance to Read's dynamic offense, feature 4-5 different screen passes, as opposed to "bubble-screen Bob's" offense.
 
BillingsMafia said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
There is no resemblance to Read's dynamic offense, feature 4-5 different screen passes, as opposed to "bubble-screen Bob's" offense.
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We will see.
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We will see what? No inside screens, no middle screens, no normal screens to the RB with linemen blocking in front.........we only get the bubble about 20 times a game!
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
BillingsMafia said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
There is no resemblance to Read's dynamic offense, feature 4-5 different screen passes, as opposed to "bubble-screen Bob's" offense.
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We will see.
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We will see what? No inside screens, no middle screens, no normal screens to the RB with linemen blocking in front.........we only get the bubble about 20 times a game!
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Every pass play resembles a screen...dlinemen crashing down on the QB...
 
Another good question to ask is if Stitt's first year record as a head coach will be better or worse than Don Read's record of 6-4.

At least by his third year as the Grizzly head coach, Don Read had improved to 8-4 and lost in the first round of the playoffs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Read
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
BillingsMafia said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
There is no resemblance to Read's dynamic offense, feature 4-5 different screen passes, as opposed to "bubble-screen Bob's" offense.
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We will see.
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We will see what? No inside screens, no middle screens, no normal screens to the RB with linemen blocking in front.........we only get the bubble about 20 times a game!
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That would be nice on any given play.

And maybe to a guy that doesn't go down on first contact. Thrown by a QB who didn't transfer in as a backup for the worst college football team in the nation (Idaho).

We have a lousy O-line, QB who will be at best 3rd string next year, and no solid Z wr. I'm going to withhold judgement for a little while.
 
I know, 20 years ago was a longggggg time ago, but there will be some Griz fans who can't love and cherish 95 but also ever see past it. I was there for every game, I was a student in 95. Best time of my life, but guess what, time and Griz football marches on, and 96-2015 have all been amazing to be a Griz fan as well.
 
grizindabox said:
behappp said:
Another good question to ask is if Stitt's first year record as a head coach will be better or worse than Don Read's record of 6-4.

At least by his third year as the Grizzly head coach, Don Read had improved to 8-4 and lost in the first round of the playoffs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Read
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Why is this even a relevant question?
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I think the point is that people tend to remember Read's tenure as being better than it actually was.

All anyone remembers is the teams we had in '95 and '96, who (in their minds) were able to score TDs at will and dominate every team they played. People tend to remember those few years, and in their minds, the entire Read tenure was like that. The reality is, it wasn't - the Griz had years during that time when they were great, but they didn't win every game, and even when they did win, they weren't always dominant.
 
It's amazing how people who don't read about or research Stitt's offensive strategies don't have a clue about what is going on with the play calling and why it is being done. The 90+ plays a game is to wear out the defense so you can win in the second half. Repetitive bubble screens from the near hash mark to the wide side of the field causes the D lineman and linebackers to run across the field to the ball while the o-linemen do not, helping wear out the defense. The quick line up and snaps preclude substitutions. Again, wearing out the defense. Our problems have been dropped balls and missed blocks on those screens, which can be corrected. When the Griz do substitute, it appears to occur more when the ball is on their hash mark, so the D substitutions have to run on and off across the field. Do you think the last drive against NDSU would have worked if their D wasn't gassed? I'm still quite optimistic that when the fundamentals are squared on the offense as they seem to be on the defense this TEAM can beat anyone in the FCS.
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
It's amazing how people who don't read about or research Stitt's offensive strategies don't have a clue about what is going on with the play calling and why it is being done. The 90+ plays a game is to wear out the defense so you can win in the second half. Repetitive bubble screens from the near hash mark to the wide side of the field causes the D lineman and linebackers to run across the field to the ball while the o-linemen do not, helping wear out the defense. The quick line up and snaps preclude substitutions. Again, wearing out the defense. Our problems have been dropped balls and missed blocks on those screens, which can be corrected. When the Griz do substitute, it appears to occur more when the ball is on their hash mark, so the D substitutions have to run on and off across the field. Do you think the last drive against NDSU would have worked if their D wasn't gassed? I'm still quite optimistic that when the fundamentals are squared on the offense as they seem to be on the defense this TEAM can beat anyone in the FCS.
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I have to agree. IF the Griz did not have talent on both sides of the ball the score of the NDSU game would have been more like the UND game and not a win. New system while trying to get a functional QB who can withstand the O-Line play is not easy and Stitt is trying to do it with someone else's players.
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
It's amazing how people who don't read about or research Stitt's offensive strategies don't have a clue about what is going on with the play calling and why it is being done. The 90+ plays a game is to wear out the defense so you can win in the second half. Repetitive bubble screens from the near hash mark to the wide side of the field causes the D lineman and linebackers to run across the field to the ball while the o-linemen do not, helping wear out the defense. The quick line up and snaps preclude substitutions. Again, wearing out the defense. Our problems have been dropped balls and missed blocks on those screens, which can be corrected. When the Griz do substitute, it appears to occur more when the ball is on their hash mark, so the D substitutions have to run on and off across the field. Do you think the last drive against NDSU would have worked if their D wasn't gassed? I'm still quite optimistic that when the fundamentals are squared on the offense as they seem to be on the defense this TEAM can beat anyone in the FCS.
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some posters are smart quite a few are stupid
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
It's amazing how people who don't read about or research Stitt's offensive strategies don't have a clue about what is going on with the play calling and why it is being done. The 90+ plays a game is to wear out the defense so you can win in the second half. Repetitive bubble screens from the near hash mark to the wide side of the field causes the D lineman and linebackers to run across the field to the ball while the o-linemen do not, helping wear out the defense. The quick line up and snaps preclude substitutions. Again, wearing out the defense. Our problems have been dropped balls and missed blocks on those screens, which can be corrected. When the Griz do substitute, it appears to occur more when the ball is on their hash mark, so the D substitutions have to run on and off across the field. Do you think the last drive against NDSU would have worked if their D wasn't gassed? I'm still quite optimistic that when the fundamentals are squared on the offense as they seem to be on the defense this TEAM can beat anyone in the FCS.
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Damn, great post! I read that stuff at one point and had forgotten most of it myself. ;)
 
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