Stitt named one of the best.....

[UMGriz75]

Sometimes facts can be positive, and not even considered "hype". I'm sure you annoy the shit out of Havre because the only kind of "objective" "facts" you tend to recite ad nauseam in relation to Stitt are the negative ones. Unless you think Haslam is a complete buffoon, I'll bet there were some down right positive "facts" related to Stitt's coaching history that would make him worth hiring. But, who knows, maybe ol Haslam himself got himself wrapped up in the "hype".

I understand being a counter balance in a debate, playing devil's advocate. But when that's the only role you tend to play, don't act surprised when people assume you don't particularly like Stitt. And tossing in the occasional "...blah blah blah I'm sure he's a smart guy" doesn't really throw anyone off your scent.

"Ad nauseum?" How many times have I -- or anyone for that matter -- referred to the actual CSM record? It is interesting that you consider that reference a "negative" reference. Ooops!!

But still, how many "references?" Twice? What is your definition of "ad nauseum?" Anytime you read what you don't like because you are too busy enjoying your pom poms? It is a small definition then.

Generally, my few comments have been in response to manifold comments that the record there was "a miracle," "triumphant" and "extraordinary."

Correct me if I am wrong.

The attention he has gotten from well-known coaches has been in regard to his ability to innovate "plays" and the testimony of credible coaches is that he is an innovative "offensive play" designer.

You obviously chose to ignore the positive -- precisely accurate -- things I wrote. Most of those, were, in fact, references I made to perceptions by those whom I specifically characterized as "credible" FBS coaches. I used that word. "Credible." What do you think I meant to do by characterizing those observations as "credible?"

Indeed, my characterization was better than yours of the sources of the comments.

Your choice to ignore those comments is, in fact, precisely calibrated to throw readers off of "your" scent.

Aren't they?

Why is that?

And no, "I am not surprised" that rabid, irrational, mindless, cheerleader sports fans need to reinvent history to validate their own needs. Fine. Get a sports bra and pom poms. And for those of you that need the reinforcement, Go Cubs!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

He continues to refer to Stitt as a $300,000.00 dollar coach! Right?
So, he must believe Coach Stitt both won the National championship Last year and will do so every year from here on out......

He comfortably earned over $300,000 without winning an NC. If he does win one (or more) he'll be closer to being a $400,000 a year coach.

With all due respect, if I won a national championship coaching anything, which would never happen, 400k would seem a bit low. At present, I just save people some money on occasion, and I'm pretty sure everyone who knows me would agree that I'm severely overpaid given the fact that I can barely read.

 

[UMGriz75]

With all due respect, if I won a national championship coaching anything, which would never happen, 400k would seem a bit low. At present, I just save people some money on occasion, and I'm pretty sure everyone who knows me would agree that I'm severely overpaid given the fact that I can barely read.

But, you can type, so that's an offset. :thumb: You know, "with all due respect!"

I do think that a UM coach, given the "program history" and obvious national significance, deserves a substantially higher salary than the MSU counterpart. :twisted:

Oh oops, that's "anti-Stitt." Even though I am the only poster who has actually said that.That Stitt deserves the higher salary! :roll:

That's what makes these idiots, "idiots." It is a precise term.

I am sure Peyton will be all over that nice hypocrisy in the usual fashion.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

With all due respect, if I won a national championship coaching anything, which would never happen, 400k would seem a bit low. At present, I just save people some money on occasion, and I'm pretty sure everyone who knows me would agree that I'm severely overpaid given the fact that I can barely read.

But, you can type, so that's an offset.

I do think that a UM coach, given the "program history" and obvious national significance, deserves a substantially higher salary than the MSU counterpart.

Oh oops, that's "anti-Stitt."

That's what makes these idiots, "idiots."

I am sure Peyton will be all over that nice hypocrisy in the usual fashion.

Barely, but I may have something going for me.
I don't think your sentiments are wrong, and I'm definitely not one to shoot down an opinion, unless it's one of a Cat fan. I just think it's pretty cool that some people think our current coach is good; accurate or not.

 

[UMGriz75]

I don't think your sentiments are wrong, and I'm definitely not one to shoot down an opinion, unless it's one of a Cat fan. I just think it's pretty cool that some people think our current coach is good; accurate or not.

I think he should be paid more. I think that's "cool" based on the fact the Kent Haslam had the confidence to hire him and that the head coach at UM is a far more important, successful, and deserving program for coach compensation than MSU.

What's your problem with that?

I am wondering why, given the "hype," he is not paid substantially more. I think he should be.

Why do you disagree?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I don't think your sentiments are wrong, and I'm definitely not one to shoot down an opinion, unless it's one of a Cat fan. I just think it's pretty cool that some people think our current coach is good; accurate or not.

I think he should be paid more. I think that's "cool" based on the fact the Kent Haslam had the confidence to hire him.

What's your problem with that?

Absolutely nothing as long as it pencils.

 

[UMGriz75]

I obviously think it "pencils" or I wouldn't have advocated it.

Why are you offering that it can only be justified if "it pencils?"

Doesn't it?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I obviously think it "pencils" or I wouldn't have advocated it.

Why are you offering that it can only be justified if "it pencils?"

Doesn't it?

That I don't know. I'm not sure about the inner workings of the Athletic Department. I was just commenting on the HC pay, and how I think it should be higher if it makes sense given the budget whilst admitting no knowledge of said budget. That's all.

 

[UMGriz75]

I obviously think it "pencils" or I wouldn't have advocated it.

Why are you offering that it can only be justified if "it pencils?"

Doesn't it?

That I don't know. I'm not sure about the inner workings of the Athletic Department. I was just commenting on the HC pay, and how I think it should be higher if it makes sense given the budget whilst admitting no knowledge of said budget. That's all.

I think a "$300,000 dollar coach" at UM is far lower than is justified by what the program has achieved compared to similar programs. But, I also point out that even at that "paltry" -- almost "starvation" -- level of compensation, it is a far cry from justifying it by attacking the motivations and capabilities of 18 year old kids, "including walk-ons," -- for lacking "ability, intelligence, work ethic and character" -- but whose life's dream was to "be a Griz!"

To those of you willing to attack the players that way, because the coach had a "phenomenal" career at the Colorado School of Mines: FU.

I am sure Peyton will intervene with his usual even-handed observations about those who attempt to "change the topic."

 

[CDAGRIZ]

OK. I can accept your sentiment without trying to convince you of anything else.

 

[UMGriz75]

OK. I can accept your sentiment without trying to convince you of anything else.

"Convince" me, of what?

I think the pay grade should be substantially higher.

You think it should be lower?

I don't think the players, many of whom wanted to be "Griz" all of their lives, should be gratuitously insulted.

You think they should be?

Wow.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You're right, I'm wrong. How could I have been so blind? I can't believe I used to think players should be insulted and coaches should be paid less! Dumb.

 

[spsyk]

Until Coach Stitt wins a NC, it's all hype, now. It's too early to say he's this or that. I think he'd agree with that.

Oh, BS. There are about 10,000,000 things that have to go right to win an NC. NOT winning one doesn't change the fact he's an offensive genius.

I agree he may be a genius, although would you agree that 50,000,000 things went right and Five Consecutive National Championships won by the staff and athletes for NDSU and that took more than just genius...

Now, those at eGriz on your knees, and pray to your diety, that 150,000,000 things go right and the Griz can win one in a row,with our genius....

 

[brewskis]

Until Coach Stitt wins a NC, it's all hype, now. It's too early to say he's this or that. I think he'd agree with that.

Oh, BS. There are about 10,000,000 things that have to go right to win an NC. NOT winning one doesn't change the fact he's an offensive genius.

I agree he may be a genius, although would you agree that 50,000,000 things went right and Five Consecutive National Championships won by the staff and athletes for NDSU and that took more than just genius...

Now, those at eGriz on your knees, and pray to your diety, that 150,000,000 things go right and the Griz can win one in a row,with our genius....

You've got mad significant digits bro.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Until Coach Stitt wins a NC, it's all hype, now. It's too early to say he's this or that. I think he'd agree with that.

Oh, BS. There are about 10,000,000 things that have to go right to win an NC. NOT winning one doesn't change the fact he's an offensive genius.

I agree he may be a genius, although would you agree that 50,000,000 things went right and Five Consecutive National Championships won by the staff and athletes for NDSU and that took more than just genius...

Now, those at eGriz on your knees, and pray to your diety, that 150,000,000 things go right and the Griz can win one in a row,with our genius....

:lol: :lol:

As soon as I typed that I knew someone would call me out on it. Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long.

 

[spsyk]

Until Coach Stitt wins a NC, it's all hype, now. It's too early to say he's this or that. I think he'd agree with that.

Oh, BS. There are about 10,000,000 things that have to go right to win an NC. NOT winning one doesn't change the fact he's an offensive genius.

I agree he may be a genius, although would you agree that 50,000,000 things went right and Five Consecutive National Championships won by the staff and athletes for NDSU and that took more than just genius...

Now, those at eGriz on your knees, and pray to your diety, that 150,000,000 things go right and the Griz can win one in a row,with our genius....

:lol: :lol:

As soon as I typed that I knew someone would call me out on it. Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long.

In that case I'm sorry I bought it up, it was a cheap shot.

 

[cclarkblues]

It doesn't matter what we think. Recognition like this is good for the team, the department and the school. It probably won't hurt recruiting either.

 

[yellowstone60]

It doesn't matter what we think. Recognition like this is good for the team, the department and the school. It probably won't hurt recruiting either.

Exactly this ! I have a good feeling about this man B.S. :egriz: Griz are gonna return to Dominance !

 

[GrizzlyClaw]

Hoping Stitt brings some swag back to Griz football!

 

[fencer24]

As the disclaimer goes "Past performance is not an indicator of future performance" applies here as well. Amazing how many people on this thread seem to be showing off how much better of a coach they would be than the guy who got the job just over a year ago.
What I liked about last year, a year with no experience really in Stitt's offense, and with numerous injuries to key players was, the up tempo push at the defense and try to make them make mistakes. In every football play there are 22 men doing 22 different things at the same time. If anyone of them makes a mistake it could be a disaster. Stitt's offense, as I understand it is to find that guy making the mistake and exploit it. It requires more intelligence and adaptability than the old smash mouth that Delaney championed. This is not a dick measuring contest, it's a brain measuring one, and done under great stress at a high tempo.
I am looking for the guys that can fully implement the scheme. The team had moments, but that's just it, they were just moments. With time and practice, I hope to see not moments, but long drawn out events.
Go Griz.