Stitt interviewing today per Football Scoop

[jcglfer]

If they go with Stitt because he is "clean" then they are idiots. How hard is it to reign in guys that have to have a minimum 30 on their ACT and KNOW they will never play at the next level because it is D2? They know their education is the only thing they will be getting at their school so Stitt having no baggage is expected. Pease has no baggage either and has coached at the highest level for years. If this comes down to eliminating a guy that wasn't always kind and sweet twenty years ago, lord help us.

Being a UW fan, I've learned a lot about Chris Petersen and researched his past. As a disciple of Petersen I'd be thrilled with Pease. Petersen is organized and at BSU and UW has a variety of players...farm boys, inner-city, etc. He knows how to manage the different personalities. Stitt has dealt with choir boy engineers. To me, it comes down to what kind of staff they can put together for the interview. Hurting Pease is his ability to put a staff together, at least on paper, right now...I'm assuming.

Choir boy engineers? lmao......obviously you've not been around engineers to much unless the Colorado breed are different than the Butte types. Some of the smartest, toughest, meanest, motivated people I know are engineers.

That's my point!! I meant "choir boy" in the sense of hard working, disciplined, motivated, intelligent, etc. Pretty easy to teach those kind of people and not have to worry about stupid sh!t they're doing off the field.

 

[jcglfer]

People do realize when you run offenses like this your D becomes a weak point and gets pushed around? It's tough to buck up against hard noise football when all off season and game week you're going against the spread.

You do realize that the defense does not practice against our offense on game week? You realize that they practice against the scout offense that runs the opponents offense? While we are at it, what source did you use to determine that having a good offense causes your D to become a weak point? Please cite your sources.

I know that. So you're saying players recruited for a spread offense can magically turn into a power run offense during game week? You do realize they use their own players to replicate the opponents. Sources? Have you watched any football? Show me one high powered spread offense that has a good D?

 

[jcglfer]

Because your comment on recruiting was asinine. Scoreboard? I was embarrassed for Wyoming they didn't beat the Griz by more.

You're the one that said, "has he ever had to recruit."

Also, try winning a football game sometime with a 3rd string QB and an OL weighing in around 280lbs.. I'll give you a hint, it doesn't happen often.

You said most coaches don't have to recruit. In what world?

That was called sarcasm. Learn it, love it. Coaches spend most of their seasons recruiting, probably more than they do game-planning.

Sarcasm is hard to read on-line. I've always respected your posts and was baffled that you would say that.

 

[grizindabox]

So whose dad is toughest?

 

[SoldierGriz]

People do realize when you run offenses like this your D becomes a weak point and gets pushed around? It's tough to buck up against hard noise football when all off season and game week you're going against the spread.

You do realize that the defense does not practice against our offense on game week? You realize that they practice against the scout offense that runs the opponents offense? While we are at it, what source did you use to determine that having a good offense causes your D to become a weak point? Please cite your sources.

No question jcglfer's sentiment is a generalization. But, it doesn't take a properly sourced master's degree thesis to understand it has some merit. If you've watched college football for the last decade - it is not hard to find examples. Oregon is the most notable...zero national championships despite having a high-flying offense. Not difficult to argue their defense was "neglected" for many years. Baylor this year is also an easy example. I think the point is....we need to be laser focused on who will run the defense. Will need to have a very strong personality to ensure no slip on that side of the ball. I'll skip the cliché ref defense wins championships...oops. Sorry it slipped in there.

 

[firmgriz]

Bobby did not and does not have the offensive coaching skill that Stitt brings to the table. Same with Pease.

Bobby is not on par with Pease and Stitt as an offensive coach, but I disagree with your assessment that Pease is not on part with Stitt. Brent with the OC at Florida and turned down Saban when offered the OC job at 'Bama. Pease is one of the best offensive minds in the college game today. The Griz would be damn lucky to have him as HC. Pease would also be a much better recruiter and have much better recruiting contacts that Stitt. And he is very interested in the job.

Go Griz!

 

[GrizPony]

Bobby did not and does not have the offensive coaching skill that Stitt brings to the table. Same with Pease.

Bobby is not on par with Pease and Stitt as an offensive coach, but I disagree with your assessment that Pease is not on part with Stitt. Brent with the OC at Florida and turned down Saban when offered the OC job at 'Bama. Pease is one of the best offensive minds in the college game today. The Griz would be damn lucky to have him as HC. Pease would also be a much better recruiter and have much better recruiting contacts that Stitt. And he is very interested in the job.

Go Griz!

This!

 

[grizatwork]

I guess I just want something new and fresh. Stitt or Pease. I have nothing against Hauck. I just think the program needs something new. Stitt and Pease will bring in some freshness that I think the players and the fan base need.

 

[dupuyer griz]

People do realize when you run offenses like this your D becomes a weak point and gets pushed around? It's tough to buck up against hard noise football when all off season and game week you're going against the spread.

You do realize that the defense does not practice against our offense on game week? You realize that they practice against the scout offense that runs the opponents offense? While we are at it, what source did you use to determine that having a good offense causes your D to become a weak point? Please cite your sources.

I know that. So you're saying players recruited for a spread offense can magically turn into a power run offense during game week? You do realize they use their own players to replicate the opponents. Sources? Have you watched any football? Show me one high powered spread offense that has a good D?

Oregon...2011 Griz...

 

[SoldierGriz]

People do realize when you run offenses like this your D becomes a weak point and gets pushed around? It's tough to buck up against hard noise football when all off season and game week you're going against the spread.

You do realize that the defense does not practice against our offense on game week? You realize that they practice against the scout offense that runs the opponents offense? While we are at it, what source did you use to determine that having a good offense causes your D to become a weak point? Please cite your sources.

I know that. So you're saying players recruited for a spread offense can magically turn into a power run offense during game week? You do realize they use their own players to replicate the opponents. Sources? Have you watched any football? Show me one high powered spread offense that has a good D?

Oregon...2011 Griz...

Oregon, this year....maybe. We'll see how they stack up shortly. Oregon of past...no way.

 

[PlayerRep]

People do realize when you run offenses like this your D becomes a weak point and gets pushed around? It's tough to buck up against hard noise football when all off season and game week you're going against the spread.

You do realize that the defense does not practice against our offense on game week? You realize that they practice against the scout offense that runs the opponents offense? While we are at it, what source did you use to determine that having a good offense causes your D to become a weak point? Please cite your sources.

No question jcglfer's sentiment is a generalization. But, it doesn't take a properly sourced master's degree thesis to understand it has some merit. If you've watched college football for the last decade - it is not hard to find examples. Oregon is the most notable...zero national championships despite having a high-flying offense. Not difficult to argue their defense was "neglected" for many years. Baylor this year is also an easy example. I think the point is....we need to be laser focused on who will run the defense. Will need to have a very strong personality to ensure no slip on that side of the ball. I'll skip the cliché ref defense wins championships...oops. Sorry it slipped in there.

In assessing offenses and defenses of teams, it's also necessary to assess where the talent on the team was put. There is only a limited amount of very talented and athletic players on a team, especially teams below FBS. Teams often end up with more talent on one side of the ball than on the other. Talent is not necessarily split equally. While some players are better on one side of the ball than the other, there are also players who would be good on either side of the ball. This includes lineman, receivers, d-backs and running backs.

Some examples. Tru was recruited as a receiver but switched to corner before he arrived. I think he could have been a terrific receiver. My guess is that Jimmy Wilson could have been a good receiver. While I don't know, I suspect Chase Reynolds could have been a good safety. Could this year's corners have been good receivers? There are probably multiple examples involving lineman. What about JJ? Could he have been a good safety; obviously was a great qb. Don't know about Biermann's hands, but could he have been a tight end? What about Holmes at TE?

This post was directed at this general subject, not at Soldier's post.

 

[griz5700]

Stitts would be a risky hire. No way around it. Tough to recruit at CSMines, but also tough to recruit higher caliber athletes from urban areas to Montana.

 

[jcglfer]

People do realize when you run offenses like this your D becomes a weak point and gets pushed around? It's tough to buck up against hard noise football when all off season and game week you're going against the spread.

You do realize that the defense does not practice against our offense on game week? You realize that they practice against the scout offense that runs the opponents offense? While we are at it, what source did you use to determine that having a good offense causes your D to become a weak point? Please cite your sources.

I know that. So you're saying players recruited for a spread offense can magically turn into a power run offense during game week? You do realize they use their own players to replicate the opponents. Sources? Have you watched any football? Show me one high powered spread offense that has a good D?

Oregon...2011 Griz...

What happened to the Griz in the playoffs? Oregon? The 80th ranked defense in the NCAA? great examples.

 

[MrTitleist]

You're the one that said, "has he ever had to recruit."

Also, try winning a football game sometime with a 3rd string QB and an OL weighing in around 280lbs.. I'll give you a hint, it doesn't happen often.

You said most coaches don't have to recruit. In what world?

That was called sarcasm. Learn it, love it. Coaches spend most of their seasons recruiting, probably more than they do game-planning.

Sarcasm is hard to read on-line. I've always respected your posts and was baffled that you would say that.

haha.. I'm a dumbass sometimes for sure, but I'm also very sarcastic.

 

[jcglfer]

Bobby did not and does not have the offensive coaching skill that Stitt brings to the table. Same with Pease.

Bobby is not on par with Pease and Stitt as an offensive coach, but I disagree with your assessment that Pease is not on part with Stitt. Brent with the OC at Florida and turned down Saban when offered the OC job at 'Bama. Pease is one of the best offensive minds in the college game today. The Griz would be damn lucky to have him as HC. Pease would also be a much better recruiter and have much better recruiting contacts that Stitt. And he is very interested in the job.

Go Griz!

Exactly. Pease at BSU/UW recruited the same areas that Montana should be recruited. Recruiting is a lot about developing relationships with the H.S. coaching staffs. Pease has long ties to many High Schools.

 

[dupuyer griz]

You do realize that the defense does not practice against our offense on game week? You realize that they practice against the scout offense that runs the opponents offense? While we are at it, what source did you use to determine that having a good offense causes your D to become a weak point? Please cite your sources.

I know that. So you're saying players recruited for a spread offense can magically turn into a power run offense during game week? You do realize they use their own players to replicate the opponents. Sources? Have you watched any football? Show me one high powered spread offense that has a good D?

Oregon...2011 Griz...

What happened to the Griz in the playoffs? Oregon? The 80th ranked defense in the NCAA? great examples.

They made a huge run and barring some really poor offensive play in the first half almost appeared in the chipper...Oregon of old was turrible, watching a couple of their games this year, I would say they are pretty good. It's easy to rack up yards against the slack players because the other team is up by 30, which Oregon often was.

 

[SLC Griz]

The safest/best pick of the (3) is clearly Hauck.

The guy has a proven track record, and took us to how many National Championships (with what the majority of us would agree, was a less than stellar OC/offensive game plan)?

I'm sure Hauck has learned even more in the past (4) years as the Head Coach of the Rebs (new recruting territories, coaching connections, etc.).

If it's not Bobby, you have to give it to Pease. Probably regarded as one of the top (10-15) offensive minds in college football, but comes with actual "Big Time" college football experience. He is a Montana Alum, and has the ability to put together a great staff. Plus I think his hire would ensure that we would keep the majority of our current recruits, especially in the Washington area.

The only way that I would hire Stitt, is if he kept both Ty and Justin Green on the staff.

Go Griz!

 

[WaGriz4life]

I know that. So you're saying players recruited for a spread offense can magically turn into a power run offense during game week? You do realize they use their own players to replicate the opponents. Sources? Have you watched any football? Show me one high powered spread offense that has a good D?

Oregon...2011 Griz...

What happened to the Griz in the playoffs? Oregon? The 80th ranked defense in the NCAA? great examples.

They made a huge run and barring some really poor offensive play in the first half almost appeared in the chipper...Oregon of old was turrible, watching a couple of their games this year, I would say they are pretty good. It's easy to rack up yards against the slack players because the other team is up by 30, which Oregon often was.

Oregon also completely shut down Cam Newton and Gus Malzahn in that BCS title game. If it wasn't for that fluke run at the end where all Oregon and Auburns players stopped, there would be a flag in Autzen.

 

[jcglfer]

I know that. So you're saying players recruited for a spread offense can magically turn into a power run offense during game week? You do realize they use their own players to replicate the opponents. Sources? Have you watched any football? Show me one high powered spread offense that has a good D?

Oregon...2011 Griz...

What happened to the Griz in the playoffs? Oregon? The 80th ranked defense in the NCAA? great examples.

They made a huge run and barring some really poor offensive play in the first half almost appeared in the chipper...Oregon of old was turrible, watching a couple of their games this year, I would say they are pretty good. It's easy to rack up yards against the slack players because the other team is up by 30, which Oregon often was.

I've watched several Oregon games this season and their defense is playing well right now but historically they haven't. They've been getting out to leads and making the other teams one dimensional. In the past, Oregon would putt around in the first half before lighting it up in the second half.
Re. Griz...that'll happen with spread offenses, you can get boat raced in first half if your offense is getting first downs...when you're struggling in 1st half you drain clock and get it to halftime.

 

[GrizPony]

The safest/best pick of the (3) is clearly Hauck.

The guy has a proven track record, and took us to how many National Championships (with what the majority of us would agree, was a less than stellar OC/offensive game plan)?

I'm sure Hauck has learned even more in the past (4) years as the Head Coach of the Rebs (new recruting territories, coaching connections, etc.).

If it's not Bobby, you have to give it to Pease. Probably regarded as one of the top (10-15) offensive minds in college football, but comes with actual "Big Time" college football experience. He is a Montana Alum, and has the ability to put together a great staff. Plus I think his hire would ensure that we would keep the majority of our current recruits, especially in the Washington area.

The only way that I would hire Stitt, is if he kept both Ty and Justin Green on the staff.

Go Griz!

Pease said he would do that also.