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Stitt: “we just didn’t come out with any type of fire and that’s been a problem for a while”
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horribilisfan8184
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UMGriz75 said:
From what I see, Diesel just pantsed you. Big time.
garizzalies
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Monocle-Homer said:
UMGriz75
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You are a work of art. You foul the Grizzly cave. You fabricated comments I did not make -- a common pasttime here among the Troll Brigade -- so that they can pretend they know something.Diesel said:
You don't.
Stitt made an important observation. Unless you are calling Stitt a liar, I merely confirmed it from the players' standpoint. Are you calling Stitt a liar? He's now a rat?
Holy hell, 75. I'm already drinking doubles, than you have to go back to back.
GLUG, GLUG, GLUG, GLUG, GLUG, GLUG!!!!!!
Nowth I juss thinksh I'll go passsh out beforf you posth again.
GLUG, GLUG, GLUG, GLUG, GLUG, GLUG!!!!!!
Nowth I juss thinksh I'll go passsh out beforf you posth again.
Tick tock tick tock...fire in the hole.
My thoughts on Stitt are simple. I wish he would delegate all the coaching to his assistants. It would free him to be the head guy over all the management, players and he could see the entire program. Guys like him that become so wrapped up in one area of the team often miss the big picture. I would guess that 75 or myself could call the plays on offense and do just as well as our head guy. He could do his emotional dance to motivate various players. Call for an unusual sneaky trick play and in my view he could become a much better HEAD COACH. Lets face it Stitt lives and dies with his offense and his play calling. (No offense 75)
Come on Egriz lets quit fighting amongst ourselves as we only have one more day to get ready for the big red bang!
My thoughts on Stitt are simple. I wish he would delegate all the coaching to his assistants. It would free him to be the head guy over all the management, players and he could see the entire program. Guys like him that become so wrapped up in one area of the team often miss the big picture. I would guess that 75 or myself could call the plays on offense and do just as well as our head guy. He could do his emotional dance to motivate various players. Call for an unusual sneaky trick play and in my view he could become a much better HEAD COACH. Lets face it Stitt lives and dies with his offense and his play calling. (No offense 75)
Come on Egriz lets quit fighting amongst ourselves as we only have one more day to get ready for the big red bang!
horribilisfan8184
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PlayerRep said:
When opinions are routinely shared by the same two people only, on a site of thousands, they are statistically meaningless. But in their little world, they believe, with righteous indignation, they are infallible, and will even type 10,000 words, if necessary, to convince themselves of that.
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horribilisfan8184 said:
One big problem is that you don't know the difference between opinion and fact. Generally, you seem to think that everything you say is a fact, and everything that you don't agree with is an opinion, even if it is factual. I don't know why you have to make your snippy comments, like the "pantsed" one, and troll and complain about things like this. Perhaps you have a high degree of insecurity.
Nailed it!horribilisfan8184 said:
Righteous indignation. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Righteous anger is typically a reactive emotion of anger over mistreatment, insult, or malice. It is akin to what is called the sense of injustice.
I would suggest in these cases, fueled by ego and a childish narcissistic need to always be correct with zero ability to accept or acknowledge criticism even in it's mildest form.
horribilisfan8184
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PlayerRep said:
I know you are not a litigator and it routinely shows in your posts, confusing correlation with causation, opinion with fact. Your bravado is classic overcompensation due to high insecurity, likely the result of never being able to measure up to the expectations of an overbearing father. If you studied/stalked my posts, as you seem to do with so many posters, you would see that I don't start but respond to crass, obnoxious or bullying posts from the usual (now 2) suspects who routinely show they don't like it when others push back or call BS on their BS. I thought after a few weeks of FOE on Ace and Gary and after Gary's timeout, it might be worthwhile to see if the message had gotten through to this team. It hasn't, and FOE is once again calling.
UMGriz75
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Wow, people sure want to blow this one up.
The fact is, Stitt acknowledged there is a "fire" problem. Nothing remarkable, everyone saw it.
That is consistent with player reports. Nothing remarkable, that agrees with the coach. That antagonizes fans like "Diesel" because he now pretends that if athletes agree with the coach, it must be because someone else is putting them up to it. Score one for "nuts."
Wahlberg gave a nice outline of how motivational coaches motivate. Nothing remarkable there, Ty was good at it, and that was a good description of how it worked, on a Griz team. That antagonizes fans like "Diesel" because sports is not about motivation and elevation, it is about silencing remarks about coaches he "no longer" likes. You know, "sports" and "... sportsmanship."
Three sets of facts give way to the usual name-calling and emotional explosions. It is the same bunch.
Just as I'm not big on the idea that coaches spread "dirt" about players, as actually suggested on this forum, I'm not big on negative remarks about players in media or at QB club, and I'm not big on degrading or demeaning former coaches or staff. Some on here are so rabid, its something they cannot avoid, at any opportunity. The idea of constantly creating conflict on football forums, when there is any objective discussion of anything outside of the narrow boundaries of what posters like "Diesel" has decided he has the right to impose, by misrepresentation, straw men, and red herrings if necessary, is toxic.
The facts, however, remain. Motivation is an art, not a science, in sport. Ash was by all reports not a great motivator. But he made a winning record. Ty was, by all reports, a great motivator. It should not be controversial to recognize those facts. Hauck was a motivator in something of a negative way, but there is something to it. Stitt reports that the current team is lacking "fire" and have been for "some time." The players seem to agree.
Exactly what is it about that conversation that makes posters like "Diesel" explode in furious self-righteousness and indignation? I'd say, there's a difference of opinion, one based on acknowledged facts, and one that for some reason wants to somehow deny what the coach actually said, and work overtime trying not to look ridiculous by denying what the coach said. Hence, attack anyone that agrees with the coach! The bottom line of Diesel's furious spinning being: "how dare you report that players agree with the coach?"
Or is it merely that the mere mention of "Ty" evokes spasms of anger and indignation in a coach that was good at his job? The reaction seems irrational to some of us, who have perhaps been in the sport game more deeply and much longer. No one has specifically come forward to define how Stitt or Semore "motivate," and that's probably just as well at this point. So, that left a reference to "Ty" and a succinct and developed description of "motivation" as written by another regular poster.
Result? "Blow Up!"
The fact is, Stitt acknowledged there is a "fire" problem. Nothing remarkable, everyone saw it.
That is consistent with player reports. Nothing remarkable, that agrees with the coach. That antagonizes fans like "Diesel" because he now pretends that if athletes agree with the coach, it must be because someone else is putting them up to it. Score one for "nuts."
Wahlberg gave a nice outline of how motivational coaches motivate. Nothing remarkable there, Ty was good at it, and that was a good description of how it worked, on a Griz team. That antagonizes fans like "Diesel" because sports is not about motivation and elevation, it is about silencing remarks about coaches he "no longer" likes. You know, "sports" and "... sportsmanship."
Three sets of facts give way to the usual name-calling and emotional explosions. It is the same bunch.
Just as I'm not big on the idea that coaches spread "dirt" about players, as actually suggested on this forum, I'm not big on negative remarks about players in media or at QB club, and I'm not big on degrading or demeaning former coaches or staff. Some on here are so rabid, its something they cannot avoid, at any opportunity. The idea of constantly creating conflict on football forums, when there is any objective discussion of anything outside of the narrow boundaries of what posters like "Diesel" has decided he has the right to impose, by misrepresentation, straw men, and red herrings if necessary, is toxic.
The facts, however, remain. Motivation is an art, not a science, in sport. Ash was by all reports not a great motivator. But he made a winning record. Ty was, by all reports, a great motivator. It should not be controversial to recognize those facts. Hauck was a motivator in something of a negative way, but there is something to it. Stitt reports that the current team is lacking "fire" and have been for "some time." The players seem to agree.
Exactly what is it about that conversation that makes posters like "Diesel" explode in furious self-righteousness and indignation? I'd say, there's a difference of opinion, one based on acknowledged facts, and one that for some reason wants to somehow deny what the coach actually said, and work overtime trying not to look ridiculous by denying what the coach said. Hence, attack anyone that agrees with the coach! The bottom line of Diesel's furious spinning being: "how dare you report that players agree with the coach?"
Or is it merely that the mere mention of "Ty" evokes spasms of anger and indignation in a coach that was good at his job? The reaction seems irrational to some of us, who have perhaps been in the sport game more deeply and much longer. No one has specifically come forward to define how Stitt or Semore "motivate," and that's probably just as well at this point. So, that left a reference to "Ty" and a succinct and developed description of "motivation" as written by another regular poster.
Result? "Blow Up!"
garizzalies
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What were the "player reports" you keep talking about? I must have missed those. Can you provide a link?
UMGriz75
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That is simply a conceit. Judging by my emails and pms, the source of conflict always narrows to just five or six regular posters who consistently go from thread to thread as in this case as usual with horribilis just to offer a personal insult, apparently to further inflame any given thread. Judging by the emails and pms, a much larger group objects to that, but justifiably refuses to confront the trolls online and end up in the usual playground bullying matches by the usual "six."horribilisfan8184 said:
It is a poor state of affairs, and one encouraged by the mods who only very selectively enforce "rules" and so it continues. Look at "horribilis" first contribution to this thread. It had nothing to do with the thread topic, but he couldn't wait to weigh in with a personal insult. It is his usual contribution. It has a name. Look at the remainder of his contributions; designed only to insult and antagonize, and then finally to try and claim his moral superiority by reference to the "thousands" he believes supports his hatred and insipidness. In his usual explosion of posts, not one actually addressed the thread topic. Odd? Strange? Moderators, perhaps you have a theory of how this pattern justifies this forum. Typical? Yes.
It is an interesting Narcissism exposed; although that was not the purpose of the thread, but with him, and them, it never is.
75 a rotten tree cannot produce fine fruit. No matter how much fertilizer is used, you are who you are.
Hide behind words all you want. News flash...you are not the voice of the Griz or the Griz players.
Big difference between being critical of posters and coach Stitt and attempting to undermine team unity amongst current head coach, his staff, and the players.
My advice to you...keep posting...and please stay away from the Griz players you mental state is not healthy.
Hide behind words all you want. News flash...you are not the voice of the Griz or the Griz players.
Big difference between being critical of posters and coach Stitt and attempting to undermine team unity amongst current head coach, his staff, and the players.
My advice to you...keep posting...and please stay away from the Griz players you mental state is not healthy.
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