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Stitt: “we just didn’t come out with any type of fire and that’s been a problem for a while”

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PlayerRep said:
Htowngriz said:
PlayerRep said:
UMGriz75 said:
Well, it was just two weeks ago that some on this board were celebrating the observation that 1) the D was not "celebrating" as they used to on successful plays, 2) that Stitt was offering that they weren't complaining like they used to about the O, and 3) that they were playing more as a team by just doing their respective jobs.

This was offered as proof of how "good" things were going.

I read it differently.

I'd like to hear from some of the posters who were saying several weeks ago that college athletes don't need to be motivated (so who cares if one of the good UM motivators was gone), and if they weren't motivated on their own, they shouldn't be here. Maybe they can shed some light on what Stitt is saying.

Since we all know to whom you're referring here, do have an explanation for the bad losses that occurred while he was here?

The subject is motivation. Stitt raised the subject, and that's what this thread is about. The thread is not about bad losses. Again, it's about motivation. Motivation is important, but it doesn't win every game and lack of it does not lose every game. Are you one of the posters who said motivation wasn't important or wasn't necessary for college athletes and coaches?

No I'm not, but thanks for asking.

Again, why are you bringing up the departure of a certain coach if the discussion is about motivation?
 
Htowngriz said:
PlayerRep said:
Htowngriz said:
PlayerRep said:
I'd like to hear from some of the posters who were saying several weeks ago that college athletes don't need to be motivated (so who cares if one of the good UM motivators was gone), and if they weren't motivated on their own, they shouldn't be here. Maybe they can shed some light on what Stitt is saying.

Since we all know to whom you're referring here, do have an explanation for the bad losses that occurred while he was here?

The subject is motivation. Stitt raised the subject, and that's what this thread is about. The thread is not about bad losses. Again, it's about motivation. Motivation is important, but it doesn't win every game and lack of it does not lose every game. Are you one of the posters who said motivation wasn't important or wasn't necessary for college athletes and coaches?

No I'm not, but thanks for asking.

Again, why are you bringing up the departure of a certain coach if the discussion is about motivation?

Because that coach was known as a great motivator, and the prior discussion several weeks ago was about him being a terrific motivator and the importance of motivation. Had the prior discussion not occurred, I would not have made the comment.
 
Yes, people have argued that "motivation" should not be necessary for collegiate athletes. Stitt appears to now disagree, and he acknowledges that the lack of it has "been a problem for a while."

Gregorak naturally serves as an example of "motivation" at UM, irrespective of his move to MSU or his relationship to Stitt.
2. He relates incredibly well to his players. The players love him. I'm sure there are some that don't but I'm hard pressed to find them. Even former players who left when Ty had just returned have told me that he's the man for the job. Most all defensive players would run through a wall for this guy and think he's one of the best choices for head coach. I've even heard that from players on offense too.

3. He is an incredible motivator. Go watch a practice or two, you'll see what I mean. Go sit in on a meeting or hear him speak to boosters or supporters, you'll see what I mean. Did you know that Ty was the guy who has been leading the internal push to get the facilities work done? He's gone and talked to the statewide GSA board and got them entirely on board to make facility improvements the #1 concern AND got the GSA to agree to make a sizable commitment (did this a few years back now). I've heard stories of pre-game speeches, actions, and spectacles. This guy gets it when it comes to motivation.
http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=68584&p=1011682&hilit=gregorak+head+coach#p1011682
 
Tyler's motivation is really taking the cats far this season. Wish we had some of that on this team!


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Coaches don't need to be cheerleaders. Tyler just wanted to be one but didn't have the body.


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Some of you don't know what it's like being a college athlete. You have film and practice sun-Thur. You also have classes and UM has been in mid terms the last 2 weeks. Then you have to trying and eat right and get rest. Then Friday you fly out of town then get on a bus and get to the hotel. Often have HW to do. Then get amped for a game the next day. As much as you would like to say that it's easy to get amped for...sometimes it's not. Playing at home makes that 10x easier. It is hard to get up for games on the road. I remember many games with Joe or Bobby where we played awful on the road but won because our talent was just was superior and now the bigsky is a lot more even. We can't beat good teams unless we get up for games. Put this one on the coaches and the senior leadership. Everyone looked a little flat and that's what happens
 
Is the Skydome still a concrete floor with something like "Astroturf" on it. it seems to me both Ferriter and Bagley both broke their arms playing there.
That is no excuse for lack of motivation but it may explain the attitude of the team during the game.
 
brewskis said:
Tyler's motivation is really taking the cats far this season. Wish we had some of that on this team!


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MSU's defense is playing much better this year, with virtually the same personnel. Exception of one really good CB that is new. Not saying they're good this year. But the defense has been why they've been in the games they have. I know that doesn't fit the egriz narrative of trashing anything bobcat, but it's true.
 
It's interesting the number of people reading "for a while" as "for a while during Stitt's tenure".

I see it as something that's been happening for a while long before Stitt got here.

As I've been saying, in my opinion it's a culture problem that isn't going to go away completely in just two seasons.
 
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Tyler's motivation is really taking the cats far this season. Wish we had some of that on this team!


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Haven't most Cat fans been saying the Cat D is improved this season and better than people had expected--generally?
 
PlayerRep said:
brewskis said:
Tyler's motivation is really taking the cats far this season. Wish we had some of that on this team!


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Haven't most Cat fans been saying the Cat D is improved this season and better than people had expected--generally?
I don't know what cat fans say but I do know they like to talk.


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uofmman1122 said:
It's interesting the number of people reading "for a while" as "for a while during Stitt's tenure".

I see it as something that's been happening for a while long before Stitt got here.
Maybe that's what Stitt meant, referring to a period when he was not here and likely had no idea of the "type of fire." To some, that might not seem odd, especially since half the team was not here before.

However, that's not what the kids are saying. And it certainly it is not what Stitt actually said, and it stands in sharp contrast to what he was saying, and this Board was saying, just a couple of short weeks ago.

But, as you say, the "interpretations" are "interesting."
 
UMGriz75 said:
uofmman1122 said:
It's interesting the number of people reading "for a while" as "for a while during Stitt's tenure".

I see it as something that's been happening for a while long before Stitt got here.
Maybe that's what Stitt meant, referring to a period when he was not here and likely had no idea of the "type of fire." To some, that might not seem odd, especially since half the team was not here before.

However, that's not what the kids are saying. And it certainly it is not what Stitt actually said, and it stands in sharp contrast to what he was saying, and this Board was saying, just a couple of short weeks ago.

But, as you say, the "interpretations" are "interesting."
As one of "those" (lol) who thought the culture was changing, and was hoping we wouldn't see games like that, I was pretty shocked that it still seems to be an issue.

I'm just of the opinion that you can't expect Stitt, or any coach for that matter short of maybe Jim Harbaugh, to turn it completely around in just two seasons.

I think we're heading in the right direction under Stitt, but we may yet see ghosts of coaches past coming out at inoportune times. I'm hoping we won't see it after this season, however.
 
Blgs Griz Fan said:
Is the Skydome still a concrete floor with something like "Astroturf" on it. it seems to me both Ferriter and Bagley both broke their arms playing there.
That is no excuse for lack of motivation but it may explain the attitude of the team during the game.

not arguing with ya but I remember Bagley's arm injury at ISU and Ferriter's at WaGriz. :?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRR6exbAFm4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIY6TVcKzIo

https://www.flickr.com/photos/140452174@N04/24677539314/in/album-72157662815613824/
 
PlayerRep said:
brewskis said:
Tyler's motivation is really taking the cats far this season. Wish we had some of that on this team!


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Haven't most Cat fans been saying the Cat D is improved this season and better than people had expected--generally?

No, they say "WTF were we thinking! This guy has one fan on E- Griz! We bought beach front property in Arizona!"
 
Isn't this more aptly a discussion of how to win on the road? Nowhere am I getting that Stitt has indicated that this is an issue with anything but a road game. And having been @ the UUNI game, I thought they'd made strides with learning to play on the road. Even with the CPSLO game, it wasn't a blow out, and they were in a position to win.

There's no motivational issue stepping out into WaGriz on Saturdays, is there? Are the Griz more or less likely to come out flat @ home than they are on the road? For the nostalgia-ridden among us, you've seen them come out flat @ home. Was there or is there really anything a coach needs to say when they get out in front of 26K? Pretty clear that there's still work to do and fortunately, there's an opportunity Saturday to get some work in.

I wouldn't bet the road to Frisco is going to through Missoula this season regardless, so learning to win on the road is critical if they're going to accomplish any of the their post-season goals. This is a pretty young group of guys, not a boat-load of experience, trying to find their way.

My view is that people come to things with their own motivations. The coaches, if they're doing their jobs, find kids who have very similar motivations and then they find ways to keep those motivations in front of them during their time with the team. When it works, you get teams like UNDSU. When it doesn't, well...
 
Who is the most successful FCS coach in history? Craig Bohl? His won-loss records in his first three years at UNDSU were 8-3, 8-3 and 7-4. Christ, I'll bet those fans were pissed! They should have fired his mediocre ass.
 
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