starting qb

[grizophile]

What worries me the most about this year is our new playbook. When i hear Delaney say something like this: “Jordy, it’s his first time playing football for a year so he’s obviously a little rusty,” said Delaney of his QB, who saw his first drive end with an interception by Justin Whitted. “It’s his first time under center, the last week and a half, and that makes a difference, especially with his height. And he started to adjust to that at the end.”

I know he has had some time off but has JJ ever been in an offense where the QB lines up under the center? Why are we taking away what he does best? The guy is a playmaker when he is outside of the pocket, i dont understand the coaches logistics behind this change.

I hear people talking how many more wins does JJ give us? I say probably not too many with him lined up behind the center but if you play him where he is most comfortable playing then id say he's worth at least 3 more wins. I guess we'll find out..

Whats everyone's elses opinion?

Ditto. Not optomistic about the new offense with JJ under center. Gotta be double frustrating for the kid.

 

[PlayerRep]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

 

[reinell30]

JJ is by far the best choice of QB's now! Jordy is a "fast thinker" and that makes up a lot for his height. Jordy's biggest problem is his arm strength. Now he may have been in the weight room a lot in his off time, and for the griz sakes, I hope so. In his last game against' Sam Houston, had he of had a little more strength (1 foot) to complete that last pass to Sambrono, the Griz probly go to the NC. His accuracy is not a problem and never has been. On the move, he is as talented a QB as has ever played in FCS, period!

 

[OptimusPrime]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

 

[GottaluvGriz]

i admit mckinney is behind jj, but we looked bad at qb saturday. combined 9-26 with just 81 yards and 4 ints. jj is everyone's pick, but he went 5-11 with two picks and just 44 yards.

The wind was blowing 25 MPH+ with gusts over 30 MPH. Defense knows that the ball can't go over their head because of the wind. They sit on all short routes and outs...... Corners and safety play improving too.
Relax, we are WAY AHEAD of where we were last Year at QB.
No worries here.
Go Griz!

 

[uofmman1122]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

The coaches seem to not know how to run it, or they feel more comfortable running a huddle up offense.

If it works, yay, but I don't have much confidence after seeing the changes.

 

[OptimusPrime]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

The coaches seem to not know how to run it, or they feel more comfortable running a huddle up offense.

If it works, yay, but I don't have much confidence after seeing the changes.

I hated when the Cats ran that stupid ass hurry up offense and then everyone would stand up and look to the sideline for an eternity. It pretty much nullified the point of the hurry up offense because the clock would run down just the same! If you are going to call a play from the sideline anyways, why does everyone have to be lined up? Drove me naners...

 

[Teton Cat]

Catmay...err, Grizmayor, has been saying this for years! "Bobblehead" is too short and his arm too weak to be an effective QB. Apparently none of you read the Mayor's posts?

Not to worry BB.....with the self imposed celibacy statute in effect for Jordan Johnson his right arm is going to get much stronger come Fall.....look for the Popeye forearms to emerge!!!

 

[grizfnz]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

The coaches seem to not know how to run it, or they feel more comfortable running a huddle up offense.

If it works, yay, but I don't have much confidence after seeing the changes.

I hated when the Cats ran that stupid ass hurry up offense and then everyone would stand up and look to the sideline for an eternity. It pretty much nullified the point of the hurry up offense because the clock would run down just the same! If you are going to call a play from the sideline anyways, why does everyone have to be lined up? Drove me naners...

It allows the OC to make changes based on defensive substitutions/formations.

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[rimrockgriz]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

The coaches seem to not know how to run it, or they feel more comfortable running a huddle up offense.

If it works, yay, but I don't have much confidence after seeing the changes.

I hated when the Cats ran that stupid ass hurry up offense and then everyone would stand up and look to the sideline for an eternity. It pretty much nullified the point of the hurry up offense because the clock would run down just the same! If you are going to call a play from the sideline anyways, why does everyone have to be lined up? Drove me naners...

Hey Opus...Do you really think anyone gives a F..k about the scats looking at the sidelines waiting for a play on egriz? Are you that desperate and lonely? Fill up the bathtub and play with your dollies...just don't drop the computer...Zib. :whocares:

 

[get'em_griz]

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

The coaches seem to not know how to run it, or they feel more comfortable running a huddle up offense.

If it works, yay, but I don't have much confidence after seeing the changes.

I hated when the Cats ran that stupid ass hurry up offense and then everyone would stand up and look to the sideline for an eternity. It pretty much nullified the point of the hurry up offense because the clock would run down just the same! If you are going to call a play from the sideline anyways, why does everyone have to be lined up? Drove me naners...

Hey Opus...Do you really think anyone gives a F..k about the scats looking at the sidelines waiting for a play on egriz? Are you that desperate and lonely? Fill up the bathtub and play with your dollies...just don't drop the computer...Zib. :whocares:

Seriously? Optimus was just giving his opinion on the hurry-up offense... Chill out.

 

[RobGriz]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

Because MD learned football in the 50's when Nebraska and 90% of the country ran 3 yards and a cloud of dust football, not this new fangled 'spread' stuff. And, by God, if it worked in 52 it will work now don't ya know.

 

[RobGriz]

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

The coaches seem to not know how to run it, or they feel more comfortable running a huddle up offense.

If it works, yay, but I don't have much confidence after seeing the changes.

I hated when the Cats ran that stupid ass hurry up offense and then everyone would stand up and look to the sideline for an eternity. It pretty much nullified the point of the hurry up offense because the clock would run down just the same! If you are going to call a play from the sideline anyways, why does everyone have to be lined up? Drove me naners...

It allows the OC to make changes based on defensive substitutions/formations.

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[Hammer]

The coaches seem to not know how to run it, or they feel more comfortable running a huddle up offense.

If it works, yay, but I don't have much confidence after seeing the changes.

I hated when the Cats ran that stupid ass hurry up offense and then everyone would stand up and look to the sideline for an eternity. It pretty much nullified the point of the hurry up offense because the clock would run down just the same! If you are going to call a play from the sideline anyways, why does everyone have to be lined up? Drove me naners...

It allows the OC to make changes based on defensive substitutions/formations.

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Understatement of the year!!!!! :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

Because MD learned football in the 50's when Nebraska and 90% of the country ran 3 yards and a cloud of dust football, not this new fangled 'spread' stuff. And, by God, if it worked in 52 it will work now don't ya know.

It seemed to work fine for Bobby Hauck when he was here. 7 conference championships and 3 trips to Chattanooga. Delaney's offense seems to have more elements of the spread than Hauck's did.

 

[OptimusPrime]

I understand the concept of the "look to the sideline for adjustments" fine, it just never seemed to matter. It was just really frustrating to watch at times. You wanted them to just keep running as fast as they could, and then nothing would happen, stand around, look to the sideline, just seemed to kill the momentum.
I can't imagine running under the center would be a great idea considering who is QB, but, like Rob said, old habits die hard.

 

[bisongriz]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

Because MD learned football in the 50's when Nebraska and 90% of the country ran 3 yards and a cloud of dust football, not this new fangled 'spread' stuff. And, by God, if it worked in 52 it will work now don't ya know.

That and a great D and you have........NDSU......ALAMBAMA. Still can work with the right people.

 

[rimrockgriz]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

Because MD learned football in the 50's when Nebraska and 90% of the country ran 3 yards and a cloud of dust football, not this new fangled 'spread' stuff. And, by God, if it worked in 52 it will work now don't ya know.

That and a great D and you have........NDSU......ALAMBAMA. Still can work with the right people.

+1 Bisongriz...some of these guys are going to split the atom, or patent cold fusion. Just ask them. :roll: It matters very little what type of offense or defense you run as long as the personnel can run the f.....g system. :evil: The coaches need to implement a solid game plan, and call a good game or you can still get your a$$ beat. While it will always be a Q.B. driven game, (tmac can't throw, and ssh can't run) if your serviceable you can still get the job done. In case you haven't noticed zibs here have difficulty criticizing a player and pile on the sugar...even after below .500 and some dogsh!t performances. NAU...lots of soul searching needed after that abortion. uke: It's still about blocking and tackling and it will stay that way as long as we're still tackling for down and distance.The ALABAMA reference is a sphere to the bullseye. We should be able to deliver the same talent on scale vs that example. :new: but you're stupid.

 

[RobGriz]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

Because MD learned football in the 50's when Nebraska and 90% of the country ran 3 yards and a cloud of dust football, not this new fangled 'spread' stuff. And, by God, if it worked in 52 it will work now don't ya know.

That and a great D and you have........NDSU......ALAMBAMA. Still can work with the right people.

Sure...if you recruit for that offense. The majority of players on our offense were recruited for Pflu's which is similar to Oregons offense and I would say they have been pretty successful. Come to think of it we were pretty successful with it after we got the pieces in place.

 

[RobGriz]

The offense is still largely from the shotgun, but the qb is also under center sometimes. It looks like its a huddle offense now.

Less fast paced I would assume. That was the strength two years ago, I don't understand why you would go away from that?

Because MD learned football in the 50's when Nebraska and 90% of the country ran 3 yards and a cloud of dust football, not this new fangled 'spread' stuff. And, by God, if it worked in 52 it will work now don't ya know.

It seemed to work fine for Bobby Hauck when he was here. 7 conference championships and 3 trips to Chattanooga. Delaney's offense seems to have more elements of the spread than Hauck's did.

Actually, while Phen Phen's offense had some power elements to it, the O when Hauck was here was hardly a 22 personnel 'power' running type offense. It was mostly zone blocking schemes which allows the rb to pick his hole dependant upon it being an IZ, OZ or stretch play and Chase Reynolds was a stud at it. And we definately had our share of 3 and outs when Hauck was here mainly due to a lack of imagination or testicles in the play calling especially in the 3 trips to Chattanooga you mentioned.