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Starting Lineup? Too Loaded??

CleanHOUSE

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Just trying to take some guess as to how this lineup is going to shake out,, just being reactionary to the Witworth scrim it looks like the guys who came in at least Egun is and Mack are going to be more formidable than the end of the 2-3 bench guys that transferred out.

SG: Ogi/ Manual (if he plays this year) PG: Rorie / Falls SG: Dorsey/ Moorhead

PF: Pridgett / Miller C: Akoh / Kramer
Bench: Egun and Anderson

End of Bench: Anderson C/PF, Brown SG, Carter C, and Jones (Team feel good cheerleader guy)...In that order for playing time.

Last year was a true 7 man rotation with Falls and Pridgett, maybe 8 man if you count Nicholas as being in rotation, but this year with Dorsey taking Kriz's spot its for sure 7 man again but if Kramer and Miller are legit and Manuel plays we'll be 10 deep with a promising end of the bench Frosh guard (Brown III) and whatever Carter and Mack Anderson can be.

Better depth will certainly help, but the two biggest limiters from last year were our lack of size, so when we went up against a real 6'10-7' guy he didn't push us around physically but he would just have to much free airspace to shoot over our guys and on the offensive end our ground bound guys could back in but couldn't get the ball over anybody.

The other big problem is that our 3pt shooting was so bad, so that we became one dimensional, great dibble drive team but crowd the middle and we couldn't shoot over people inside or outside. This meant that although we were the better team most game teams because our O was only going to grind out about 65pt every game was going to be close down the stretch. There were a few games where we hit three's in those games we blew the doors of people.
All of which is to say I think this team can address a few needs: 1. More depth to stay fresh because of our physical D style and physical dribble drive O style. 2: Kramer at 6'10 give more low post defensive size just to get at least a hand up against true bigs. 3: Legit game to game 3pt shooting...Ogi emerged real 3pt Threat plus Dorsey, plus maybe Brown III as a sharp shooter

Still Lacking probably: Some low post scoring size and I don't think our 3pt shooting will be any worse but solid chance its about the same.

Final takeaways...I think for sure we will have more depth which will only help our grindy formula, and if we can just add one dimension to our O so that when teams clog the lane to stop dibble drive we can shoot over outside or down low this could be really special team!! Go Griz #Basketball School

O and if we could add a sold out loud home environment that would be huge to...to often some games seem like parents and family in the stands plus some people who dont really care if griz win or lose cause they dont know much about the basketball program they are just there to support the University
 
I think the depth this year will mainly allow DeCuire to adjust lineups, strategies, and rotations more based on opponent strengths and weaknesses. Anderson and Kramer will likely have inconsistent minutes up to conference play. Kramer has the raw size, rebounds, and low presence for opponents to be aware of him. Anderson is one hell of an athlete and has some hops. Those 2 will be needed on the boards and defensively. Anything we get from either or both offensively will be icing on the cake. Fortunately, the GRIZ have plenty of scoring. That alone will allow for them to adjust and transition easier. I feel, both those bigs will contribute considerably this season.

Speaking of bigs, Carter is interesting as well. IF/when Big Ben gets over injuries and works himself into shape, he can be another presence, with the ability to stretch defenses from the perimeter as well. I really am not sure when he will be well enough to devote himself to working out. He is around 280 lbs now. Getting down to 260 lbs would help him so much. At this point, he is a project. I will be pulling for the kid. I do feel he is an upgrade from last season's project big man. Skills wise, Carter is solid. He has a nice touch, and from what I hear, he is very savvy passer.

This team will be a top 40 team nationally. If the young big men deliver, they will be damn right dangerous in the NCAA tournament. On guard play alone, this team can do some damage. How DeCuire got the likes of Rorie, Oguine, Falls, Pridgett, Akoh,Dorsey is beyond me. Moorehead is a do it all player, that takes pride in defense. Also, his 3 pt shooting appears to be a strength again. Senior leadership is terrific. When the young guys of Egun, Anderson, and Kramer mature and progress, they will be deeper. Who knows what we will get from Brown and/or Carter? Brown appears to be a steal though. If Manuel is granted eligibility this season, the GRIZ will have more depth, improved long range 3 point shooting. He and Falls can each play either guard position.

How deep is this team? The most versatile player cannot even play this season. Practicing with and against Miller is a luxury too. #bigthingscoming
 
Some good thoughts for sure...I wasn't aware that Miller won't be eligible this year but I don't think that changes the out look to much. We should be as good or better than last year with more upside, and I think the surest bet for improvement is depth, if we can go 9 deep instead of 7 that will really help considering our play style. Some combo of Kramer, Carter, or Anderson will have to emerge because Akoh will have at least 4 or 5 big time foul trouble games I think
 
CleanHOUSE said:
Some good thoughts for sure...I wasn't aware that Miller won't be eligible this year but I don't think that changes the out look to much. We should be as good or better than last year with more upside, and I think the surest bet for improvement is depth, if we can go 9 deep instead of 7 that will really help considering our play style. Some combo of Kramer, Carter, or Anderson will have to emerge because Akoh will have at least 4 or 5 big time foul trouble games I think

Akoh has helped himself in the off season. He is trimmer and moves much better than last season. I think that will help avoid a few stupid fouls. Then again, there is the Big Sky officials, that come into the equation. :lol:
 
mtgrizrule said:
I think the depth this year will mainly allow DeCuire to adjust lineups, strategies, and rotations more based on opponent strengths and weaknesses. Anderson and Kramer will likely have inconsistent minutes up to conference play. Kramer has the raw size, rebounds, and low presence for opponents to be aware of him. Anderson is one hell of an athlete and has some hops. Those 2 will be needed on the boards and defensively. Anything we get from either or both offensively will be icing on the cake. Fortunately, the GRIZ have plenty of scoring. That alone will allow for them to adjust and transition easier. I feel, both those bigs will contribute considerably this season.

Speaking of bigs, Carter is interesting as well. IF/when Big Ben gets over injuries and works himself into shape, he can be another presence, with the ability to stretch defenses from the perimeter as well. I really am not sure when he will be well enough to devote himself to working out. He is around 280 lbs now. Getting down to 260 lbs would help him so much. At this point, he is a project. I will be pulling for the kid. I do feel he is an upgrade from last season's project big man. Skills wise, Carter is solid. He has a nice touch, and from what I hear, he is very savvy passer.

This team will be a top 40 team nationally. If the young big men deliver, they will be damn right dangerous in the NCAA tournament. On guard play alone, this team can do some damage. How DeCuire got the likes of Rorie, Oguine, Falls, Pridgett, Akoh,Dorsey is beyond me. Moorehead is a do it all player, that takes pride in defense. Also, his 3 pt shooting appears to be a strength again. Senior leadership is terrific. When the young guys of Egun, Anderson, and Kramer mature and progress, they will be deeper. Who knows what we will get from Brown and/or Carter? Brown appears to be a steal though. If Manuel is granted eligibility this season, the GRIZ will have more depth, improved long range 3 point shooting. He and Falls can each play either guard position.

How deep is this team? The most versatile player cannot even play this season. Practicing with and against Miller is a luxury too. #bigthingscoming
Agreed, hopefully improve the 3pt. Shooting to a respectable average and I think it's not unreasonable to get to the second weekend of the tournament. This could/should be a special year with the talent returning.
 
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