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Spring Ball Starts Tonight

BigGameBobby said:
Rebuilding from 6th place in conference (4-4) and one of the most embarrassing a$$ kickings in rivalry history!

Not having a decent back up qb costed us 2 of those games. Ref won the Sac game even with the incapable backup... it'd be a different story if the griz got rolled in all those games but, the fact is they were in every game and could have easily won if a couple things went their way. The only games the griz looked like the less talented team was against MSU(as much as I hate to say it) and NDSU
 
Griz Addict said:
BigGameBobby said:
Rebuilding from 6th place in conference (4-4) and one of the most embarrassing a$$ kickings in rivalry history!

Not having a decent back up qb costed us 2 of those games. Ref won the Sac game even with the incapable backup... it'd be a different story if the griz got rolled in all those games but, the fact is they were in every game and could have easily won if a couple things went their way. The only games the griz looked like the less talented team was against MSU(as much as I hate to say it) and NDSU
And even then that was a one point game in the third quarter and that was after a first half where we probably should have been leading. A holding penalty wiped out O'Connell's fumble recovery which would have given us the ball at NDSU's 35 and a scoop and score fumble recovery by the Bison right before half time.
 
SoCal Surfer said:
BigGameBobby said:
Rebuilding from 6th place in conference (4-4) and one of the most embarrassing a$$ kickings in rivalry history!

I agree with that.

I’d say Bobby might consider this a mid regime rebuild year. It’s not like a full overhaul after the Stitt years but it was definitely a season that did not meet expectations and changes are being made to regroup and try again.
 
Griz Addict said:
BigGameBobby said:
Rebuilding from 6th place in conference (4-4) and one of the most embarrassing a$$ kickings in rivalry history!

Not having a decent back up qb costed us 2 of those games. Ref won the Sac game even with the incapable backup... it'd be a different story if the griz got rolled in all those games but, the fact is they were in every game and could have easily won if a couple things went their way. The only games the griz looked like the less talented team was against MSU(as much as I hate to say it) and NDSU

I agree. I think the coaches thought that they had a good backup in Brown. He didn't improve from the prior year, and probably went backwards. I'm still hoping he can step it up. Beating Sac and Weber would have been big for the rest of the season too. I don't see this year as a rebuilding year at all, except a very good qb needs to emerge. It will be interesting to see what the new coordinators do, along with a couple new coaches and coaches in new spots. This should energize the coaching.
 
BigGameBobby said:
Rebuilding from 6th place in conference (4-4) and one of the most embarrassing a$$ kickings in rivalry history!

While the result was a loss, at least we never experienced 16 In A Row!!
 
grizfnz said:
BigGameBobby said:
Rebuilding from 6th place in conference (4-4) and one of the most embarrassing a$$ kickings in rivalry history!

While the result was a loss, at least we never experienced 16 In A Row!!

As for streaks, there’s no comparison. The scats best streaks are 6-0 three times and 4-0 twice. Meanwhile the Griz have had streaks of 16-0, 16-0-4, 10-0, and 8-0. It’s no wonder the scats have been excited about their recent success like it’s the best time in history to be a scat fan. It’s cus it probably is. Meanwhile it’s always been good to be a Griz fan. Here’s a complete list.

1897-98 Griz 3-0
1904-08 Griz 1-0-1
1909-28 Griz 16-0-4
1930-31 Griz 2-0
1933-46 Griz 10-0
1948-55 Griz 8-0
1960 Griz 1-0
1962 Griz 1-0
1969-71 Griz 3-0
1978 Griz 1-0
1981-82 Griz 2-0
1986-2001 Griz 16-0
2004 Griz 1-0
2006-09 Griz 4-0
2011 Griz 1-0
2013-15 Griz 3-0
2021 Griz 1-0

1899-1903 scats 6-0
1908 scats 1-0-1
1928-29 scats 1-0-1
1932 scats 1-0
1947 scats 1-0
1956-59 scats 4-0
1961 scats 1-0
1963-68 scats 6-0
1972-77 scats 6-0
1979-80 scats 2-0
1983-85 scats 3-0
2002-03 scats 2-0
2005 scats 1-0
2010 scats 1-0
2012 scats 1-0
2016-20 scats 4-0
2022 scats 1-0
 
mthoopsfan said:
Griz Addict said:
Not having a decent back up qb costed us 2 of those games. Ref won the Sac game even with the incapable backup... it'd be a different story if the griz got rolled in all those games but, the fact is they were in every game and could have easily won if a couple things went their way. The only games the griz looked like the less talented team was against MSU(as much as I hate to say it) and NDSU

I agree. I think the coaches thought that they had a good backup in Brown. He didn't improve from the prior year, and probably went backwards. I'm still hoping he can step it up. Beating Sac and Weber would have been big for the rest of the season too. I don't see this year as a rebuilding year at all, except a very good qb needs to emerge. It will be interesting to see what the new coordinators do, along with a couple new coaches and coaches in new spots. This should energize the coaching.

A very good starting QB and good back-up QB need to emerge. Griz must solve the +1 running schemes on defense, and the Griz offense must figure out how to stay on the field...improve 3rd down efficiency and increase TOP. The latter of which is crucial if sticking with the 3-3-5.

I also don't understand why coaching at the D1 level would need to be energized. Why?
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
I agree. I think the coaches thought that they had a good backup in Brown. He didn't improve from the prior year, and probably went backwards. I'm still hoping he can step it up. Beating Sac and Weber would have been big for the rest of the season too. I don't see this year as a rebuilding year at all, except a very good qb needs to emerge. It will be interesting to see what the new coordinators do, along with a couple new coaches and coaches in new spots. This should energize the coaching.

A very good starting QB and good back-up QB need to emerge. Griz must solve the +1 running schemes on defense, and the Griz offense must figure out how to stay on the field...improve 3rd down efficiency and increase TOP. The latter of which is crucial if sticking with the 3-3-5.

I also don't understand why coaching at the D1 level would need to be energized. Why?

I didn't say it "needed" to be energized. I said I thought it "should" energize the coaching. In any business or other organization I've been involved with, new leadership, new people, and new positions, almost always energize the group/team. Perhaps that is not true in the military, which is more staid and rigid. In my experience, these new things often create some new dynamics. Energizing doesn't always improve things, but it can. Focusing on the 2 new coordinators, I can't imagine that they are not excited and energized to institute new things and their ideas.

UM had good overall 3d down efficiency. 2d in conference. 15th in nation. 46%. Sac had 48%. Yes, improvement is always good.
 
SoldierGriz said:
mthoopsfan said:
I agree. I think the coaches thought that they had a good backup in Brown. He didn't improve from the prior year, and probably went backwards. I'm still hoping he can step it up. Beating Sac and Weber would have been big for the rest of the season too. I don't see this year as a rebuilding year at all, except a very good qb needs to emerge. It will be interesting to see what the new coordinators do, along with a couple new coaches and coaches in new spots. This should energize the coaching.

A very good starting QB and good back-up QB need to emerge. Griz must solve the +1 running schemes on defense, and the Griz offense must figure out how to stay on the field...improve 3rd down efficiency and increase TOP. The latter of which is crucial if sticking with the 3-3-5.

I also don't understand why coaching at the D1 level would need to be energized. Why?

Ya, I wouldn’t be very excited as a fan if the savior head coach that came back and promised RTD, beating the Cats, etc…. took five years and got all his players, coaches, schemes, in place while the fan base patiently waited, and then had to completely revamp the entire coaching staff and schemes on both offense and defense after five years.
 
poorgriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
A very good starting QB and good back-up QB need to emerge. Griz must solve the +1 running schemes on defense, and the Griz offense must figure out how to stay on the field...improve 3rd down efficiency and increase TOP. The latter of which is crucial if sticking with the 3-3-5.

I also don't understand why coaching at the D1 level would need to be energized. Why?

Ya, I wouldn’t be very excited as a fan if the savior head coach that came back and promised RTD, beating the Cats, etc…. took five years and got all his players, coaches, schemes, in place while the fan base patiently waited, and then had to completely revamp the entire coaching staff and schemes on both offense and defense after five years.

You must have been a pretty sh i tt y fan for years and years and years then until choate finally showed up.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
poorgriz said:
Ya, I wouldn’t be very excited as a fan if the savior head coach that came back and promised RTD, beating the Cats, etc…. took five years and got all his players, coaches, schemes, in place while the fan base patiently waited, and then had to completely revamp the entire coaching staff and schemes on both offense and defense after five years.

You must have been a pretty sh i tt y fan for years and years and years then until choate finally showed up.

Oh not at all. I’ve always stuck with my team through thick and thin, and trust me, there have been dark times. Yes, there have been coaching staffs that I was disappointed in (ie not excited about). Nothing wrong with disliking the direction of a program under a certain coach, and even advocating for a new coach. Doesn’t make me a bad fan.
 
mthoopsfan said:
SoldierGriz said:
A very good starting QB and good back-up QB need to emerge. Griz must solve the +1 running schemes on defense, and the Griz offense must figure out how to stay on the field...improve 3rd down efficiency and increase TOP. The latter of which is crucial if sticking with the 3-3-5.

I also don't understand why coaching at the D1 level would need to be energized. Why?

I didn't say it "needed" to be energized. I said I thought it "should" energize the coaching. In any business or other organization I've been involved with, new leadership, new people, and new positions, almost always energize the group/team. Perhaps that is not true in the military, which is more staid and rigid. In my experience, these new things often create some new dynamics. Energizing doesn't always improve things, but it can. Focusing on the 2 new coordinators, I can't imagine that they are not excited and energized to institute new things and their ideas.

UM had good overall 3d down efficiency. 2d in conference. 15th in nation. 46%. Sac had 48%. Yes, improvement is always good.

Gotcha, that context makes good sense.

In the military - we rotate new leaders into units all the time. Agree it can bring new energy.
 
poorgriz said:
alabamagrizzly said:
You must have been a pretty sh i tt y fan for years and years and years then until choate finally showed up.

Oh not at all. I’ve always stuck with my team through thick and thin, and trust me, there have been dark times. Yes, there have been coaching staffs that I was disappointed in (ie not excited about). Nothing wrong with disliking the direction of a program under a certain coach, and even advocating for a new coach. Doesn’t make me a bad fan.

Two older coaches retired, as planned. One new coach has joined staff. Two guys switched from analyst to coach, and vice versa. One new face. Nothing has to be revamped. Some guys just moved into more natural positions for them. In past 3 years, Griz have gone to playoffs, been ranked fairly high post-season and are 1-2 against the Cats. 2-2 after next season.
 
poorgriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
A very good starting QB and good back-up QB need to emerge. Griz must solve the +1 running schemes on defense, and the Griz offense must figure out how to stay on the field...improve 3rd down efficiency and increase TOP. The latter of which is crucial if sticking with the 3-3-5.

I also don't understand why coaching at the D1 level would need to be energized. Why?

Ya, I wouldn’t be very excited as a fan if the savior head coach that came back and promised RTD, beating the Cats, etc…. took five years and got all his players, coaches, schemes, in place while the fan base patiently waited, and then had to completely revamp the entire coaching staff and schemes on both offense and defense after five years.

There is no revamp. Mostly familiar faces. It means BH is confident with the guys he has...and is preparing to echelon up. It won't be long.
 
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