Speltz on Bobby Hauck

[kemajic]

In Stitt's first year, he beat NC NDSU, manhandled MSU and won a playoff game. In his first year, BH lost to DII NDSU, lost to MSU and did not win a playoff game.

"As you know, Delaney was succeeded by Bob Stitt, who lost five games in his debut season. Hauck never lost five games in a season at Montana. He lost four in his last three seasons combined."

In 2003, UM lost in in the round of 16 just like UM did this year. In 2003, I believe UM finished the season ranked no. 13; UM was 14 this season. UM also won the conference in 2003. Yes, UM beat NDSU once and MSU this year, but also lost to Weber and Cal Poly at home, and PSU on the road.

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

I happen to agree with your post, Kem. But we should have some rules around the voting process.

Would the poll include which coach fired someone's favorite defensive coordinator which is why he is so butt hurt?

Would the poll include which coach managed the team with a a degree of intelligence, maturity and integrity?

Would the poll be open to hypocrites who formally decried anyone who spoke negatively about UM football personnel, including convicted felons, but now takes cheap shots at a coach who canned his buddy who made him feel like an insider?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[catsack]

In Stitt's first year, he beat NC NDSU, manhandled MSU and won a playoff game. In his first year, BH lost to DII NDSU, lost to MSU and did not win a playoff game.

"As you know, Delaney was succeeded by Bob Stitt, who lost five games in his debut season. Hauck never lost five games in a season at Montana. He lost four in his last three seasons combined."

In 2003, UM lost in in the round of 16 just like UM did this year. In 2003, I believe UM finished the season ranked no. 13; UM was 14 this season. UM also won the conference in 2003. Yes, UM beat NDSU once and MSU this year, but also lost to Weber and Cal Poly at home, and PSU on the road.

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

I happen to agree with your post, Kem. But we should have some rules around the voting process.

Would the poll include which coach fired someone's favorite defensive coordinator which is why he is so butt hurt?

Would the poll include which coach managed the team with a a degree of intelligence, maturity and integrity?

Would the poll be open to hypocrites who formally decried anyone who spoke negatively about UM football personnel, including convicted felons, but now takes cheap shots at a coach who canned his buddy who made him feel like an insider?

That same coach was offered like ten different DC jobs , but chose MSU over several FBS jobs!

 

[AZGrizFan]

In Stitt's first year, he beat NC NDSU, manhandled MSU and won a playoff game. In his first year, BH lost to DII NDSU, lost to MSU and did not win a playoff game.

"As you know, Delaney was succeeded by Bob Stitt, who lost five games in his debut season. Hauck never lost five games in a season at Montana. He lost four in his last three seasons combined."

In 2003, UM lost in in the round of 16 just like UM did this year. In 2003, I believe UM finished the season ranked no. 13; UM was 14 this season. UM also won the conference in 2003. Yes, UM beat NDSU once and MSU this year, but also lost to Weber and Cal Poly at home, and PSU on the road.

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

Hauck took over a Cadillac program. Stitt took over an Edsel program. And WITH that Edsel program beat NDSU, EWU, MSU, SDSU, all in the same year.

Game/Set/Match to Stitt.

 

[spsyk]

In Stitt's first year, he beat NC NDSU, manhandled MSU and won a playoff game. In his first year, BH lost to DII NDSU, lost to MSU and did not win a playoff game.

"As you know, Delaney was succeeded by Bob Stitt, who lost five games in his debut season. Hauck never lost five games in a season at Montana. He lost four in his last three seasons combined."

In 2003, UM lost in in the round of 16 just like UM did this year. In 2003, I believe UM finished the season ranked no. 13; UM was 14 this season. UM also won the conference in 2003. Yes, UM beat NDSU once and MSU this year, but also lost to Weber and Cal Poly at home, and PSU on the road.

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

Hauck took over a Cadillac program. Stitt took over an Edsel program. And WITH that Edsel program beat NDSU, EWU, MSU, SDSU, all in the same year.

Game/Set/Match to Stitt.

So, a team that went two deep in the playoffs, is an Edsel team, I think you are a little confused, it is coach Stitt that was hired from a YUGO conference and team.

Coach Stitt will not be around long enough to match coach Hauck accomplishments at the University Of Montana, and as far as Hauck winning a NC, you made it clear that it takes 1,000,000 000 things to go right in order to win a NC, with one exception, NDSU they have everything going right, and in my lifetime or the lifetime of anyone else in this forum, no team will match NDSU acomplishments.

13 National Championships ( in two different conferences, five in a row in the FCS and on there way their way to the sixth ). The only college program to win five NCAA Championship.

32 Conference Championships

25 game winning streak, best in both FBS and the FCS

Beat FBS teams as easily as FCS teams

Now, I'm not a Hauck fanboy, however coach Stitt has some large shoes to fill the legacy of the Griz, and Griz fans, can hate on the Bison, although if they are football fans the must respect the legacy of NDSU

 

[ranco]

In Stitt's first year, he beat NC NDSU, manhandled MSU and won a playoff game. In his first year, BH lost to DII NDSU, lost to MSU and did not win a playoff game.

"As you know, Delaney was succeeded by Bob Stitt, who lost five games in his debut season. Hauck never lost five games in a season at Montana. He lost four in his last three seasons combined."

In 2003, UM lost in in the round of 16 just like UM did this year. In 2003, I believe UM finished the season ranked no. 13; UM was 14 this season. UM also won the conference in 2003. Yes, UM beat NDSU once and MSU this year, but also lost to Weber and Cal Poly at home, and PSU on the road.

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

Hauck took over a Cadillac program. Stitt took over an Edsel program. And WITH that Edsel program beat NDSU, EWU, MSU, SDSU, all in the same year.

Game/Set/Match to Stitt.

That's true and under Hauck the Cadillac got polished, got a tune up and was running better than at any point prior to him taking the keys. People will point to Joe Glenn as having a better term, I really like Glen but he wasn't here long enough to be put in the same category as Hauck. I think Stitt has the potential to better Hauck, but only time will tell. BTW, Stitt wasn't handed an Edsell (the Griz had made the playoffs for two straight years) but perhaps a Ford Taurus.

 

[ranco]

"Regardless of where he's coaching or in what capacity, Hauck is a winner, plain and simple. One who knows how to motivate young men and will soon be signing up for another head coaching job."

" UNLV announced on November 28, 2014 that Hauck had submitted his resignation to the team after going 15-48 in 5 seasons"

A winner. plain and simple.

I see where the new guy at UNLV went 3-9 in his first season, just enough to edge out Hawaii at 3-10 and Wyoming at 2-10. There is such a thing as doing the best with what you have to work with. UNLV is not a standard of reference to judge by IMHO. Hauck got them into one bowl game.

Speaking of Wyoming finishing the season at 2-10 - now that raises more interesting thoughts.

According to some on this board, it proves that Bohl is and always will be a horrible coach.

 

[AZGrizFan]

"As you know, Delaney was succeeded by Bob Stitt, who lost five games in his debut season. Hauck never lost five games in a season at Montana. He lost four in his last three seasons combined."

In 2003, UM lost in in the round of 16 just like UM did this year. In 2003, I believe UM finished the season ranked no. 13; UM was 14 this season. UM also won the conference in 2003. Yes, UM beat NDSU once and MSU this year, but also lost to Weber and Cal Poly at home, and PSU on the road.

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

Hauck took over a Cadillac program. Stitt took over an Edsel program. And WITH that Edsel program beat NDSU, EWU, MSU, SDSU, all in the same year.

Game/Set/Match to Stitt.

That's true and under Hauck the Cadillac got polished, got a tune up and was running better than at any point prior to him taking the keys. People will point to Joe Glenn as having a better term, I really like Glen but he wasn't here long enough to be put in the same category as Hauck. I think Stitt has the potential to better Hauck, but only time will tell. BTW, Stitt wasn't handed an Edsell (the Griz had made the playoffs for two straight years) but perhaps a Ford Taurus.

Hauck inherited a team that had been to the NC game two of the past three years and was just one year removed from a national title.

Stitt inherited a team that had been to the PLAYOFFS two of the past three years, never advancing past the round of 16. Taurus might be being kind. More like "Escort".

 

[brewskis]

Hauck inherited a team that had been to the NC game two of the past three years and was just one year removed from a national title.

Stitt inherited a team that had been to the PLAYOFFS two of the past three years, never advancing past the round of 16. Taurus might be being kind. More like "Escort".

Bingo. In the last 30 years has there ever been a 3 year stretch without the Griz winning the conference outright? We were lucky to get Stitt to take the job.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

"As you know, Delaney was succeeded by Bob Stitt, who lost five games in his debut season. Hauck never lost five games in a season at Montana. He lost four in his last three seasons combined."

In 2003, UM lost in in the round of 16 just like UM did this year. In 2003, I believe UM finished the season ranked no. 13; UM was 14 this season. UM also won the conference in 2003. Yes, UM beat NDSU once and MSU this year, but also lost to Weber and Cal Poly at home, and PSU on the road.

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

Hauck took over a Cadillac program. Stitt took over an Edsel program. And WITH that Edsel program beat NDSU, EWU, MSU, SDSU, all in the same year.

Game/Set/Match to Stitt.

So, a team that went two deep in the playoffs, is an Edsel team, I think you are a little confused, it is coach Stitt that was hired from a YUGO conference and team.

Coach Stitt will not be around long enough to match coach Hauck accomplishments at the University Of Montana, and as far as Hauck winning a NC, you made it clear that it takes 1,000,000 000 things to go right in order to win a NC, with one exception, NDSU they have everything going right, and in my lifetime or the lifetime of anyone else in this forum, no team will match NDSU acomplishments.

13 National Championships ( in two different conferences, five in a row in the FCS and on there way their way to the sixth ). The only college program to win five NCAA Championship.

32 Conference Championships

25 game winning streak, best in both FBS and the FCS

Beat FBS teams as easily as FCS teams

Now, I'm not a Hauck fanboy, however coach Stitt has some large shoes to fill the legacy of the Griz, and Griz fans, can hate on the Bison, although if they are football fans the must respect the legacy of NDSU

So you think Stitt won't be here long. Is that cus he's so good an FBS school will snatch him up or so bad that Montana will fire him?

 

[rgrizfan]

In Stitt's first year, he beat NC NDSU, manhandled MSU and won a playoff game. In his first year, BH lost to DII NDSU, lost to MSU and did not win a playoff game.

No. No facts. Bobby Hauck was the best coach who ever put on a Griz cap. If you disagree, there will be no room for argument, and I will continue to throw shade at Stitt because I think Hauck and I used to be buddies. I don't know about position changes and who will be a preferred walk-on, and that really bothers me as one who bought a burger or two on Front Street.

Can't be considered the best without winning a Championship.

Only 1 team is the best every year. Many teams have great seasons without winning the championship. You are one of those never played the game guys. Don't understand the game or sport.

I am just stating that both in number of Championships won and winning percentage Joe Glenn beats BGB. Don Read is my favorite...he took a weak program and built it into what we currently have...and won a Championship! No, I did not play college football, but neither did BGB.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

I like coach Stitt. I liked coach Hauck. Those things weren't mutually exclusive until the cheap shot in this article. Hauck lost the HC job to Stitt and he's acting like a sore loser, which is odd because he earlier in the story indicates stepping away from the HC position was the best thing for him. We'll never know what Stitt would have done with Hauck's first Griz team or what Hauck would have done with Stitt's first Griz team so it's really an idiotic comparison, tailor made for off-season fodder. Butt can somebody please, please, please find a large tube of Prep H for the Hauck devotees?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I like coach Stitt. I liked coach Hauck. Those things weren't mutually exclusive until the cheap shot in this article. Hauck lost the HC job to Stitt and he's acting like a sore loser, which is odd because he earlier in the story indicates stepping away from the HC position was the best thing for him. We'll never know what Stitt would have done with Hauck's first Griz team or what Hauck would have done with Stitt's first Griz team so it's really an idiotic comparison, tailor made for off-season fodder. Butt can somebody please, please, please find a large tube of Prep H for the Hauck devotees?

Great post, horribilis.

 

[griz4life]

This column was a laugher. The Missoulian is the only rag in the country that would heavily credit assistant coach Bobby Hauck for a team's success without once even naming the head coach, you know the guy who hired Hauck and the rest of the coaching staff, put in the seasons to make the program what it is today.

Hauck joined the staff Jan 25, 2015, and voila!! Easy as sea monkeys, San Diego State was a winner. Right, Bill.
I was curious about Speltz suggestion that Hauck has been grabbing headlines. There's a blurb about his promotion and story last fall about returning to UNLV for a game. Apparently Hauck worked one day for UNLV in December 2014 and wanted to be paid for the entire month. That made headlines.

So then after a full rub and tug by Speltz, the column ends with the caution that Montana is in trouble if Bobby Hauck, extraordinary winner that he is, lands a head coaching job at an FCS school. Back to FCS???? A division Hauck ran to UNLV to escape.

Maybe the Griz would be in trouble if Hauck was back in FCS, unless they faced him in the national championship, where Hauck's only trophies are for participation. There the Griz would be fine.

 

[behappp]

"Regardless of where he's coaching or in what capacity, Hauck is a winner, plain and simple. One who knows how to motivate young men and will soon be signing up for another head coaching job."

" UNLV announced on November 28, 2014 that Hauck had submitted his resignation to the team after going 15-48 in 5 seasons"

A winner. plain and simple.

I see where the new guy at UNLV went 3-9 in his first season, just enough to edge out Hawaii at 3-10 and Wyoming at 2-10. There is such a thing as doing the best with what you have to work with. UNLV is not a standard of reference to judge by IMHO. Hauck got them into one bowl game.

Speaking of Wyoming finishing the season at 2-10 - now that raises more interesting thoughts.

Of course you are right about the problems of recruiting and coaching at UNLV (something I've never really understood as compared to to a place like Laramie - the cold frozen town in the middle of nowhere Wyoming).

Bobby was a winner at UM and did a great job here. The best special teams play I've ever seen was under his auspices. And he's always been 100% Griz.

I was trying more to comment on the idiocy of Speltz's comments.

Horribilisgriz summed it up quite well.

 

[griz5700]

Should have hired Hauck.

 

[PlayerRep]

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

Hauck took over a Cadillac program. Stitt took over an Edsel program. And WITH that Edsel program beat NDSU, EWU, MSU, SDSU, all in the same year.

Game/Set/Match to Stitt.

That's true and under Hauck the Cadillac got polished, got a tune up and was running better than at any point prior to him taking the keys. People will point to Joe Glenn as having a better term, I really like Glen but he wasn't here long enough to be put in the same category as Hauck. I think Stitt has the potential to better Hauck, but only time will tell. BTW, Stitt wasn't handed an Edsell (the Griz had made the playoffs for two straight years) but perhaps a Ford Taurus.

Hauck inherited a team that had been to the NC game two of the past three years and was just one year removed from a national title.

Stitt inherited a team that had been to the PLAYOFFS two of the past three years, never advancing past the round of 16. Taurus might be being kind. More like "Escort".

Stitt inherited a team with multiple returning starerts, seniors numbering in the high teens, 3 NFL quality receivers, a veteran defense, and the national defensive player of the year. Hauck inherited a team with 14 returning seniors. Again, Hauck won the conference and lost in the round of 16 just like this year's team.

 

[PlayerRep]

"As you know, Delaney was succeeded by Bob Stitt, who lost five games in his debut season. Hauck never lost five games in a season at Montana. He lost four in his last three seasons combined."

In 2003, UM lost in in the round of 16 just like UM did this year. In 2003, I believe UM finished the season ranked no. 13; UM was 14 this season. UM also won the conference in 2003. Yes, UM beat NDSU once and MSU this year, but also lost to Weber and Cal Poly at home, and PSU on the road.

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

I happen to agree with your post, Kem. But we should have some rules around the voting process.

Would the poll include which coach fired someone's favorite defensive coordinator which is why he is so butt hurt?

Would the poll include which coach managed the team with a a degree of intelligence, maturity and integrity?

Would the poll be open to hypocrites who formally decried anyone who spoke negatively about UM football personnel, including convicted felons, but now takes cheap shots at a coach who canned his buddy who made him feel like an insider?

That same coach was offered like ten different DC jobs , but chose MSU over several FBS jobs!

How much do you want to bet me on the multiple other job offers? Here's how the proof will work. Brint will talk to senior people in the athletic department, and they will verify.

 

[PlayerRep]

No. No facts. Bobby Hauck was the best coach who ever put on a Griz cap. If you disagree, there will be no room for argument, and I will continue to throw shade at Stitt because I think Hauck and I used to be buddies. I don't know about position changes and who will be a preferred walk-on, and that really bothers me as one who bought a burger or two on Front Street.

Can't be considered the best without winning a Championship.

Only 1 team is the best every year. Many teams have great seasons without winning the championship. You are one of those never played the game guys. Don't understand the game or sport.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2038878-top-10-college-football-head-coaches-who-never-played
I understand that the distinction is they've never played college ball but still, you should stop with that argument. It really does make you sound petty. A weeny little nerd can still fully understand what concepts work and don't work in any sport w/o setting foot inside the lines. For the record, I never played past my high school days at Msla Big Sky.

No, Alabama, you need to understand what I have stated clearly many times. Some posters show that they never played the game and don't understand the game. That does not mean that it's necessary to have played the game to understand the game. I trust that you can understand that difference. Every poster who has an opinion on egriz does not get a ribbon, at least not from me. If I can see that they don't know what they're talking about, and I don't respect them, then I just might tell them that they never played the game. Maybe you're a ribbon guy; I'm not.

 

[Ursa Major]

"Regardless of where he's coaching or in what capacity, Hauck is a winner, plain and simple. One who knows how to motivate young men and will soon be signing up for another head coaching job."

" UNLV announced on November 28, 2014 that Hauck had submitted his resignation to the team after going 15-48 in 5 seasons"

A winner. plain and simple.

I see where the new guy at UNLV went 3-9 in his first season, just enough to edge out Hawaii at 3-10 and Wyoming at 2-10. There is such a thing as doing the best with what you have to work with. UNLV is not a standard of reference to judge by IMHO. Hauck got them into one bowl game.

Speaking of Wyoming finishing the season at 2-10 - now that raises more interesting thoughts.

Of course you are right about the problems of recruiting and coaching at UNLV (something I've never really understood as compared to to a place like Laramie - the cold frozen town in the middle of nowhere Wyoming).

Bobby was a winner at UM and did a great job here. The best special teams play I've ever seen was under his auspices. And he's always been 100% Griz.

I was trying more to comment on the idiocy of Speltz's comments.

Horribilisgriz summed it up quite well.

Good post BHapp! I had to read the article twice. It is extremely clumsily written. The article is as much about what Speltz had to say as what BH had to say. Strange for an article piece that was supposed to be an interview piece. This kind of article should be reported like the Tribune reports them. You know, more about what the actual answers that the person being interviewed actually said.

*For the record, I'm declaring this my one and only positive comment that I'm forced to publicly make each year about the "Electric Bummer" following the 1997 out of court settlement in the prior City of Great Falls V. Ursa Major litigation.

#ParisGibsonAutofellated

 

[PhxGriz]

We could have a poll to see what is most important to Griz fans. I'll take my list.

Hauck took over a Cadillac program. Stitt took over an Edsel program. And WITH that Edsel program beat NDSU, EWU, MSU, SDSU, all in the same year.

Game/Set/Match to Stitt.

That's true and under Hauck the Cadillac got polished, got a tune up and was running better than at any point prior to him taking the keys. People will point to Joe Glenn as having a better term, I really like Glen but he wasn't here long enough to be put in the same category as Hauck. I think Stitt has the potential to better Hauck, but only time will tell. BTW, Stitt wasn't handed an Edsell (the Griz had made the playoffs for two straight years) but perhaps a Ford Taurus.

Hauck inherited a team that had been to the NC game two of the past three years and was just one year removed from a national title.

Stitt inherited a team that had been to the PLAYOFFS two of the past three years, never advancing past the round of 16. Taurus might be being kind. More like "Escort".

Not to mention that Stitt also had to overcome a complete change to the offense, just like the players, but was also dealt a four scholarship deficit.

I have no ill will towards BH because I sure loved all the winning, but for those who think Stitt was dealt an equal hand as Hauck...you are nuts.