Some Game Stats

[kemajic]

greenie is right in this thread. the only way the griz would have had a better punt returner this year is if they had recruited one. why isn't anybody picking on van for that crucial third down drop?

Possibly because his 161 yards receiving was the closest thing to keeping us in the game?

 

[Umista]

Like one of my wives stated "its over and YOU get over it" concerning our completed football season. Moaning and groaning about it will not get it back. OK, OK I will quit my bitching and will await next season with high expectations!

Early in the season I stated some of the below:

After the third game this season I new we would not win the championship and I was in serious doubts about us making the playoffs. I also noted how much our O line improved all year. I stated our special teams were in serious need of better coaching assistance. I complained about our out dated and poor offensive coaching from day one. I mentioned I like coach Delaney and hope he does well in his retirement. He did a good job of getting our players to walk straight and be excellent people in the community and he did the best job of coaching the team he could.

Yes the truth is this, our season was over from the get go. We have some great football players, some leaving and some staying. It is now time to focus on NEXT YEAR and sooner than later. I stand committed as a Griz fan and will die one. Again my same wife mentioned this morning that we were playing while the cats were long gone.....and she knows a new coach is coming and that he will be announced soon!

So Alpha had a relapse after getting out of rehab, lay off of him as he will soon be free of the poison that gets him in trouble. Fumbling is his thing and thru blurry bloodshot eyes it appears far worse than it is. When dry, clean and sober he is a pretty good Griz fan.

 

[kemajic]

Today he didn't field one, and tripped on another, but he has hasn't let punts hit the ground much this season. Averaged 17 yards per return today.

He "averaged" 17 yards by returning one of five punts for 17 yards. He caught them by surprise.

He has let a lot of punts hit the ground this season. The one he returned hit the ground and bounced right into his gut. He made a good play on that one.

 

[PlayerRep]

greenie is right in this thread. the only way the griz would have had a better punt returner this year is if they had recruited one. why isn't anybody picking on van for that crucial third down drop?

Obviously, I agree with argh. Also, Nguyen fails to catch a punt in traffic, it rolls another 15 or so yards, the refs blow a targeting/late hit call on Saylor, Van fumbles, EWU kicks a FG (Kem declares it a TD), and Nguyen and not one else gets the blame. Pretty funny.

And, a very weird curving punt goes away from Nguyen and, in managing to avoid a muffed punt or other misplay, he falls. No fumble. Ball rolls a bit. Perhaps people should be complimenting on making a good play to avoid a fumble. Seems like a better argument that saying he made a bad play--based on the bird seye view of the poster who was right behind the play in the end zone.

And, punt is blocked and EWU gets on the 2. Is anyone complaining about that critical play--perhaps the most important of the game. The first interception, altho I give JJ a pass on that one because of the missed PI call. Multiple drops by receivers. A few off target passes. Some missed tackles. But no, it's all Nguyen's fault because he didn't field 2 punts. I agree that he should have fielded the last one, but that wasn't close to being a critical play in the game.

 

[PlayerRep]

Through the Dec. 6 games, Nguyen ranked:

24th out of 55 in FCS punt returns with an average of 9.5.
108th out of 113 in FCS kickoff returns with an average of 16.6, rarely getting back to the 25.

Again, Nguyen is currently no. 2 in the conference in punt returns. Has the most punt return yardage in the conference by far. Recorded no lost fumbles for the year.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

greenie is right in this thread. the only way the griz would have had a better punt returner this year is if they had recruited one. why isn't anybody picking on van for that crucial third down drop?

Obviously, I agree with argh. Also, Nguyen fails to catch a punt in traffic, it rolls another 15 or so yards, the refs blow a targeting/late hit call on Saylor, Van fumbles, EWU kicks a FG (Kem declares it a TD), and Nguyen and not one else gets the blame. Pretty funny.

And, a very weird curving punt goes away from Nguyen and, in managing to avoid a muffed punt or other misplay, he falls. No fumble. Ball rolls a bit. Perhaps people should be complimenting on making a good play to avoid a fumble. Seems like a better argument that saying he made a bad play--based on the bird seye view of the poster who was right behind the play in the end zone.

And, punt is blocked and EWU gets on the 2. Is anyone complaining about that critical play--perhaps the most important of the game. The first interception, altho I give JJ a pass on that one because of the missed PI call. Multiple drops by receivers. A few off target passes. Some missed tackles. But no, it's all Nguyen's fault because he didn't field 2 punts. I agree that he should have fielded the last one, but that wasn't close to being a critical play in the game.

Wrong! And way to start changing your initial argument. I love how you went from "he slipped and therefore could not field the punt" to "the ball was travelling funny which caused him to trip" to "he did not want to muff the ball so he fell"

 

[PlayerRep]

greenie is right in this thread. the only way the griz would have had a better punt returner this year is if they had recruited one. why isn't anybody picking on van for that crucial third down drop?

Obviously, I agree with argh. Also, Nguyen fails to catch a punt in traffic, it rolls another 15 or so yards, the refs blow a targeting/late hit call on Saylor, Van fumbles, EWU kicks a FG (Kem declares it a TD), and Nguyen and not one else gets the blame. Pretty funny.

And, a very weird curving punt goes away from Nguyen and, in managing to avoid a muffed punt or other misplay, he falls. No fumble. Ball rolls a bit. Perhaps people should be complimenting on making a good play to avoid a fumble. Seems like a better argument that saying he made a bad play--based on the bird seye view of the poster who was right behind the play in the end zone.

And, punt is blocked and EWU gets on the 2. Is anyone complaining about that critical play--perhaps the most important of the game. The first interception, altho I give JJ a pass on that one because of the missed PI call. Multiple drops by receivers. A few off target passes. Some missed tackles. But no, it's all Nguyen's fault because he didn't field 2 punts. I agree that he should have fielded the last one, but that wasn't close to being a critical play in the game.

Wrong! And way to start changing your initial argument. I love how you went from "he slipped and therefore could not field the punt" to "the ball was travelling funny which caused him to trip" to "he did not want to muff the ball so he fell"

It was based on the new information about how weird and curving the punt was, from a poster in this thread.

 

[Dozy]

Nguyen is an idiot and should never be on the field again

Who do you hate more? Nguyen or Shoota'? I'm curious....

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

greenie is right in this thread. the only way the griz would have had a better punt returner this year is if they had recruited one. why isn't anybody picking on van for that crucial third down drop?

Obviously, I agree with argh. Also, Nguyen fails to catch a punt in traffic, it rolls another 15 or so yards, the refs blow a targeting/late hit call on Saylor, Van fumbles, EWU kicks a FG (Kem declares it a TD), and Nguyen and not one else gets the blame. Pretty funny.

And, a very weird curving punt goes away from Nguyen and, in managing to avoid a muffed punt or other misplay, he falls. No fumble. Ball rolls a bit. Perhaps people should be complimenting on making a good play to avoid a fumble. Seems like a better argument that saying he made a bad play--based on the bird seye view of the poster who was right behind the play in the end zone.

And, punt is blocked and EWU gets on the 2. Is anyone complaining about that critical play--perhaps the most important of the game. The first interception, altho I give JJ a pass on that one because of the missed PI call. Multiple drops by receivers. A few off target passes. Some missed tackles. But no, it's all Nguyen's fault because he didn't field 2 punts. I agree that he should have fielded the last one, but that wasn't close to being a critical play in the game.

Wrong! And way to start changing your initial argument. I love how you went from "he slipped and therefore could not field the punt" to "the ball was travelling funny which caused him to trip" to "he did not want to muff the ball so he fell"

It was based on the new information about how weird and curving the punt was, from a poster in this thread.

No, is was based on you trying to prove your point. I am not ever really sure how you got to "he did not want to muff the ball" from a poster stating "the ball had a weird trajectory". Are in in JN's head and know his every thought?

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Nguyen is an idiot and should never be on the field again

Who do you hate more? Nguyen or Shoota'? I'm curious....

I don't hate anyone.......I would rather have Shoota return punts he rarely fumbles unlike Nguyen does every game.

 

[UMAlum]

Nguyen wasn't the reason we lost the game (and noone really said he was). The non-fielded punt was his one issue (unless the curve ball theory is on target). He had a couple of decent returns. Eastern played better overall. We were outcoached a bit. The blocked punt, tipped ball interception and Van fumble (late non-whistle) were several of our plays that figured more critical to the outcome than the non-fielded punt.

In some ways it was a very strange game ... and felt at the end it could have been a tossup ... but the score sure didn’t indicate such (that last int made it look worse than it was)

 

[jcglfer]

greenie is right in this thread. the only way the griz would have had a better punt returner this year is if they had recruited one. why isn't anybody picking on van for that crucial third down drop?

Obviously, I agree with argh. Also, Nguyen fails to catch a punt in traffic, it rolls another 15 or so yards, the refs blow a targeting/late hit call on Saylor, Van fumbles, EWU kicks a FG (Kem declares it a TD), and Nguyen and not one else gets the blame. Pretty funny.

And, a very weird curving punt goes away from Nguyen and, in managing to avoid a muffed punt or other misplay, he falls. No fumble. Ball rolls a bit. Perhaps people should be complimenting on making a good play to avoid a fumble. Seems like a better argument that saying he made a bad play--based on the bird seye view of the poster who was right behind the play in the end zone.

And, punt is blocked and EWU gets on the 2. Is anyone complaining about that critical play--perhaps the most important of the game. The first interception, altho I give JJ a pass on that one because of the missed PI call. Multiple drops by receivers. A few off target passes. Some missed tackles. But no, it's all Nguyen's fault because he didn't field 2 punts. I agree that he should have fielded the last one, but that wasn't close to being a critical play in the game.

Wrong! And way to start changing your initial argument. I love how you went from "he slipped and therefore could not field the punt" to "the ball was travelling funny which caused him to trip" to "he did not want to muff the ball so he fell"

It was based on the new information about how weird and curving the punt was, from a poster in this thread.

Nguyen may have his faults but he could not do anything on the punt he slipped on. I've been to hundreds of games in several stadiums and know punts will curve based on spin and part of foot that's contacted. I was at the ASU/UDUB game where there were gusts of 50-60mph and the ball would move in the air but at a consistent motion where you could track it. This one took the craziest turn...sorta like that Bridgestone commercial where the qb throws it and curves a ton.