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So here is what the Griz are looking at

PlayerRep said:
RayWill said:
Griz til I die said:
RayWill said:
I think NAU is the most under rated team in the FCS right now. The voters do not seem to think so , the lack of respect they have garnered will not appear as a quality win if and that is a big if MT wins next week. There is a good chance NAU will still be unranked tomorrow and the Griz if they do win would have 0 wins against top 25 ranked opponents. Hard to make a case at that point for MT to be in the playoffs.
If we would’ve beat Weber yesterday, they would’ve been unranked come the end of the season cause they play Eastern next week on top of it. They still might be unranked come the end of the season. How does this make their situation any better? Depending on how much they lose to Eastern by, I think the committee might have to take a serious look at who gets the last spot. I think they’ll be inclined to pick the Griz too for the $$

I am basing on the fact that it seems likely two maybe three teams from the Sky are going to be in. MT is looking most likely at 4th place in conference at best. A 7-4 or 6-5 MVFC team is likely to get that spot over MT

My view is maybe or maybe not at 7-4. Don't think the committee even looks at conference rank, especially in a conference where all teams don't play each other.

They do look at conference rank, this is what Jeff Tingey (AD Idaho State) told me last year:
"'There are a number of factors we use that are in no particular order,' Tingey said Thursday night, a day before he leaves for Indianapolis to join the selection committee.
Among those factors are strength of schedule, overall record, win-loss difference, conference standings and the NCAA’s Simple Ratings System (SRS), an algorithm developed by Princeton professors used to gauge team quality. Team ratings are primarily influenced by strength of schedule and win-loss differential.
...If Montana is being considered in the same pool of teams that includes Weber State and Cal Poly, several things work against the Grizzlies in comparison. Though it does not appear to factor heavily into the committee’s decision, Tingey said conference standings are taken in consideration when trying to split hairs between teams."
 
kyle_sample said:
PlayerRep said:
RayWill said:
Griz til I die said:
If we would’ve beat Weber yesterday, they would’ve been unranked come the end of the season cause they play Eastern next week on top of it. They still might be unranked come the end of the season. How does this make their situation any better? Depending on how much they lose to Eastern by, I think the committee might have to take a serious look at who gets the last spot. I think they’ll be inclined to pick the Griz too for the $$

I am basing on the fact that it seems likely two maybe three teams from the Sky are going to be in. MT is looking most likely at 4th place in conference at best. A 7-4 or 6-5 MVFC team is likely to get that spot over MT

My view is maybe or maybe not at 7-4. Don't think the committee even looks at conference rank, especially in a conference where all teams don't play each other.

They do look at conference rank, this is what Jeff Tingey (AD Idaho State) told me last year:
"'There are a number of factors we use that are in no particular order,' Tingey said Thursday night, a day before he leaves for Indianapolis to join the selection committee.
Among those factors are strength of schedule, overall record, win-loss difference, conference standings and the NCAA’s Simple Ratings System (SRS), an algorithm developed by Princeton professors used to gauge team quality. Team ratings are primarily influenced by strength of schedule and win-loss differential.
...If Montana is being considered in the same pool of teams that includes Weber State and Cal Poly, several things work against the Grizzlies in comparison. Though it does not appear to factor heavily into the committee’s decision, Tingey said conference standings are taken in consideration when trying to split hairs between teams."

Okay, I should have said it's not an important factor. My friends/acquaintances who have been on the committee told me that that the committee doesn't consider it an important factor. The other factors you mentioned are much more important. If the committee is thinking UM is one of the top 24 teams (or whatever, the net figure is after auto bids), I don't see the committee thinking: "Oh, let's select the less good Big Sky team because they are ranked about UM in the conference (which doesn't have all teams playing each other). Also, I can't imagine that the committee, which at least to do a conference call each week as the season goes on, to discuss their then current views on playoff teams, is looking at conf ranking each week. But those weekly informal polls are very important, is what I've been told.

And, as you said, Tingey said the conference rank is taken into account when splitting hairs.
 
PlayerRep said:
kyle_sample said:
PlayerRep said:
RayWill said:
I am basing on the fact that it seems likely two maybe three teams from the Sky are going to be in. MT is looking most likely at 4th place in conference at best. A 7-4 or 6-5 MVFC team is likely to get that spot over MT

My view is maybe or maybe not at 7-4. Don't think the committee even looks at conference rank, especially in a conference where all teams don't play each other.

They do look at conference rank, this is what Jeff Tingey (AD Idaho State) told me last year:
"'There are a number of factors we use that are in no particular order,' Tingey said Thursday night, a day before he leaves for Indianapolis to join the selection committee.
Among those factors are strength of schedule, overall record, win-loss difference, conference standings and the NCAA’s Simple Ratings System (SRS), an algorithm developed by Princeton professors used to gauge team quality. Team ratings are primarily influenced by strength of schedule and win-loss differential.
...If Montana is being considered in the same pool of teams that includes Weber State and Cal Poly, several things work against the Grizzlies in comparison. Though it does not appear to factor heavily into the committee’s decision, Tingey said conference standings are taken in consideration when trying to split hairs between teams."

Okay, I should have said it's not an important factor. My friends/acquaintances who have been on the committee told me that that the committee doesn't consider it an important factor. The other factors you mentioned are much more important. If the committee is thinking UM is one of the top 24 teams (or whatever, the net figure is after auto bids), I don't see the committee thinking: "Oh, let's select the less good Big Sky team because they are ranked about UM in the conference (which doesn't have all teams playing each other). Also, I can't imagine that the committee, which at least to do a conference call each week as the season goes on, to discuss their then current views on playoff teams, is looking at conf ranking each week. But those weekly informal polls are very important, is what I've been told.

And, as you said, Tingey said the conference rank is taken into account when splitting hairs.

November 20th last year...Griz SRS was good for #29 for whatever that's worth. Good talking point though...
 
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