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Sneed vs Gresch - continues

PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
nzone said:
Jensen>Sneed...Sneed>Anderson. Therefore if Jensen goes to cats and Sneed remains Montana’s qb msu will have a better qb. :coffee:

Not even close. Sneed better. That's why Jensen left UM. Knew that he had been beaten out.

Doesn’t Bobby say stats are for LOSERS!

Don't know. Quitting is usually for losers.
Who you calling a quitter?
 
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
nzone said:
Jensen>Sneed...Sneed>Anderson. Therefore if Jensen goes to cats and Sneed remains Montana’s qb msu will have a better qb. :coffee:

Not even close. Sneed better. That's why Jensen left UM. Knew that he had been beaten out.

Doesn’t Bobby say stats are for LOSERS!

Don't know. Quitting is usually for losers.

Sort of like Quinn did on the Sooners? I see you no longer support players like you once did.
 
PlayerRep said:
ordigger said:
Original thread locked, when there are much worse ones out there...

To review....

PR thinks Sneed is great. Had great game stats today, two interceptions were late so should be no penalty. Then commented Gresch had average again today.

My statistical look had some surprises.

Actually he has had 2 Player of the Week.

I can pick stats too...Jensen last week

20-33, 277 yards, 1 td, 1 int, 69 yards rushing, 8.6 yards per carry, 2 td (this was not either of his two big games)

For the season rushing
GJ (many claim he can’t run), 44-253, 5.7 yds/carry, 5 tds ZERO fumbles

Sneed (many claim he can - me too but these numbers are surprising) 90-473, 5.3 yds/carry, 5 tds, 5 fumbles, loss 4. Now remove the Big game, 74-266, 3.6 yds/carry, 2 tds, and still the same fumbles.

I’m sure people won’t accept the obvious, and will claim his completion percentage is higher, lol.

One more....

Jenson, 13 tds, 5 interceptions- didn’t play much in one game

Sneed, 12 tds, 7 interceptions

Not sure I understand YOUR fascination with Sneed, except to stir the pot on eGriz. You’re a smart guy, the numbers speak for themselves.

And I used a bigger sampling of stats.

You are welcome to Jensen's stats this year against JC competition.

Passing 8 128-220-5 58.2% 1906 13 88 238.3
Rushing....... 8 44 278 31 247 5.6 5 37 30.9

Knowing how predictable you are, and knowing this would be your only argument, I already looked at Sneed’s stats against JC competition last year. Sorry, Gresch blows him away. I won’t post the stats because you will always deny you are wrong, even when the stats prove it. I suspect that Gresch’s JC competition has been much tougher than Sneed’s anyway.

IMO, On this subject, you are wrong. I will no longer post about it, because in 2 years I think we all may know.
 
I care. All-American quarterbacks are hard to come by. And the way this situation was handled, in my opinion, may be one of the biggest mistakes of Hauck's coaching career at UM.
 
Boscoe said:
I care. All-American quarterbacks are hard to come by. And the way this situation was handled, in my opinion, may be one of the biggest mistakes of Hauck's coaching career at UM.

Great, lets all care about something that is a done deal and does nothing constructive moving forward.
 
Boscoe said:
I care. All-American quarterbacks are hard to come by. And the way this situation was handled, in my opinion, may be one of the biggest mistakes of Hauck's coaching career at UM.

It sure is looking that way, with how this season is playing out. Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do about Jensen leaving. That is why some people want to move on.
 
ordigger said:
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
PlayerRep said:
Not even close. Sneed better. That's why Jensen left UM. Knew that he had been beaten out.

Doesn’t Bobby say stats are for LOSERS!

Don't know. Quitting is usually for losers.

Sort of like Quinn did on the Sooners? I see you no longer support players like you once did.

Quinn didn't quit OU. Got kicked off, essentially by the NCAA. Was a scapegoat.

Digger, I like you. Please don't be stupid.
 
Boscoe said:
I care. All-American quarterbacks are hard to come by. And the way this situation was handled, in my opinion, may be one of the biggest mistakes of Hauck's coaching career at UM.

Let's see your proof on all-American qb. Also, how many frosh qb's started in FCS last 10? Group of 10, or less?
 
PlayerRep said:
ordigger said:
PlayerRep said:
catsack said:
Doesn’t Bobby say stats are for LOSERS!

Don't know. Quitting is usually for losers.

Sort of like Quinn did on the Sooners? I see you no longer support players like you once did.

Quinn didn't quit OU. Got kicked off, essentially by the NCAA. Was a scapegoat.

Digger, I like you. Please don't be stupid.

My bad, but my point is that we get drop downs all the time. Why is Gresch a quitter, when someone like Shaw is not. You are a bright guy, you know what I mean
 
ordigger said:
PlayerRep said:
ordigger said:
PlayerRep said:
Don't know. Quitting is usually for losers.

Sort of like Quinn did on the Sooners? I see you no longer support players like you once did.

Quinn didn't quit OU. Got kicked off, essentially by the NCAA. Was a scapegoat.

Digger, I like you. Please don't be stupid.

My bad, but my point is that we get drop downs all the time. Why is Gresch a quitter, when someone like Shaw is not. You are a bright guy, you know what I mean

You do realize there are like 4 guys calling him a quitter...
 
ordigger said:
PlayerRep said:
ordigger said:
Original thread locked, when there are much worse ones out there...

To review....

PR thinks Sneed is great. Had great game stats today, two interceptions were late so should be no penalty. Then commented Gresch had average again today.

My statistical look had some surprises.

Actually he has had 2 Player of the Week.

I can pick stats too...Jensen last week

20-33, 277 yards, 1 td, 1 int, 69 yards rushing, 8.6 yards per carry, 2 td (this was not either of his two big games)

For the season rushing
GJ (many claim he can’t run), 44-253, 5.7 yds/carry, 5 tds ZERO fumbles

Sneed (many claim he can - me too but these numbers are surprising) 90-473, 5.3 yds/carry, 5 tds, 5 fumbles, loss 4. Now remove the Big game, 74-266, 3.6 yds/carry, 2 tds, and still the same fumbles.

I’m sure people won’t accept the obvious, and will claim his completion percentage is higher, lol.

One more....

Jenson, 13 tds, 5 interceptions- didn’t play much in one game

Sneed, 12 tds, 7 interceptions

Not sure I understand YOUR fascination with Sneed, except to stir the pot on eGriz. You’re a smart guy, the numbers speak for themselves.

And I used a bigger sampling of stats.

You are welcome to Jensen's stats this year against JC competition.

Passing 8 128-220-5 58.2% 1906 13 88 238.3
Rushing....... 8 44 278 31 247 5.6 5 37 30.9

Knowing how predictable you are, and knowing this would be your only argument, I already looked at Sneed’s stats against JC competition last year. Sorry, Gresch blows him away. I won’t post the stats because you will always deny you are wrong, even when the stats prove it. I suspect that Gresch’s JC competition has been much tougher than Sneed’s anyway.

IMO, On this subject, you are wrong. I will no longer post about it, because in 2 years I think we all may know.

I know what Sneed's prior stats were. If you were paying attention, you would've seen them on egriz as they were being debated for weeks earlier in the season. I like Sneed's stats this year better than Jensen's last year too.

I liked Jensen last year, and thought he had nice potential, but it is true that he never won a tough game. After hearing what I heard about him this year after he left, I'm glad he's gone. He wasn't right for UM. He think he's better than he is. Almost quit, when Phillips got the starting job. Wow, talk about not understanding your abilities.

On this subject, you won't, or may not, post, because you know I will run you out of the gym on it. You should stick with telling us what a great decision UMass made by moving up to FBS. I see that UMass beat Duquense, and UConn, which has beaten only Rhode Island this year.
 
PlayerRep said:
Boscoe said:
I care. All-American quarterbacks are hard to come by. And the way this situation was handled, in my opinion, may be one of the biggest mistakes of Hauck's coaching career at UM.

Let's see your proof on all-American qb. Also, how many frosh qb's started in FCS last 10? Group of 10, or less?

https://skylinesportsmt.com/jensen-andersen-among-seven-freshman-all-americans-from-big-sky/
 
grizindabox said:
ordigger said:
PlayerRep said:
ordigger said:
Sort of like Quinn did on the Sooners? I see you no longer support players like you once did.

Quinn didn't quit OU. Got kicked off, essentially by the NCAA. Was a scapegoat.

Digger, I like you. Please don't be stupid.

My bad, but my point is that we get drop downs all the time. Why is Gresch a quitter, when someone like Shaw is not. You are a bright guy, you know what I mean

You do realize there are like 4 guys calling him a quitter...

I’ve seen more than that. I absolutely despise the fact that “fans” will trash a kid just feel better about themselves. Always liked the fact that some guys like Brint and PR have always stood up for players no matter what.
 
ordigger said:
PlayerRep said:
ordigger said:
PlayerRep said:
Don't know. Quitting is usually for losers.

Sort of like Quinn did on the Sooners? I see you no longer support players like you once did.

Quinn didn't quit OU. Got kicked off, essentially by the NCAA. Was a scapegoat.

Digger, I like you. Please don't be stupid.

My bad, but my point is that we get drop downs all the time. Why is Gresch a quitter, when someone like Shaw is not. You are a bright guy, you know what I mean

Jensen left because he didn't want to compete for the job. Shaw left because he didn't want to move to 0-line and wanted to stay at D-line. Jensen apparently told the new coaches that he almost left when he didn't start over Phillips. Some of the Griz players are fine that Jensen left, saying he must not have wanted to be a Griz. I'm good with that, from both sides.
 
Boscoe said:
PlayerRep said:
Boscoe said:
I care. All-American quarterbacks are hard to come by. And the way this situation was handled, in my opinion, may be one of the biggest mistakes of Hauck's coaching career at UM.

Let's see your proof on all-American qb. Also, how many frosh qb's started in FCS last 10? Group of 10, or less?

https://skylinesportsmt.com/jensen-andersen-among-seven-freshman-all-americans-from-big-sky/

Still won't shut him up on this.
 
PlayerRep said:
zirge said:
don't forget grandma griz's rebuttle to PR's statement, if granny's info is true someone is pulling a hat trick on us egrizzers, someone i thought was all about putting things into perspective that has complete knowledge of football compared to most of us.....Hmmmm

PR's statement:
Jensen stats today:

Gresch Jensen 2-25 rushing; Gresch Jensen 22-11-1-196;

Grandma Griz rebuttle:
You forgot the most important stats - GJ's team won 45 to 14. He wasn't on the field very much because their defense was awesome and accounted for 28 points. They were so far ahead, the second string had a chance to get some experience. Also GJ has had 2 games passing over 400. Selected player of the week twice. And that is the part of the story you forgot to mention!

Jensen had 1 TD pass and 1 interception. 50% completion. The other qb threw 2 passes, and completed 1 for TD. TOP was 23.5 for Fullerton. What GranGriz said is not correct.

See the game article and title from their website. Doesn't even mention Jensen, except for a 3d q long td pass.

FOOTBALL: D & SPECIALS TEAMS PROPEL HORNETS PAST MESA

https://www.fchornets.com/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/20181027widrbg

PlayerRep must have misread or didn't understand what I had written. My point was he didn't mention all the facts. Score was 45 to 14.To be more precise GJ passed for 207 yards. - LG 64 - 1TD -1 INT. Rushed for 25 yards. 2nd qtrback passed for 36 yards 1 TD. Offense also had a field goal. Remainder of points were from defense-2 interception returns - 2 kick off returns. Posession 22:12 compared to 40:37 for opposing team. Penalties 13- 164 yards, resulting in 1 of GJ TD's called back and 1- 2 point conversion called back. GJ didn't play 4 qtr. nor was he the only qtrback to play the other 3 qtrs. PlayerRep would have a better understanding., including other evaluating factors that he doesn't
have knowledge of, if he had watched the entire game as I did. I was not wrong in my summation plus GJ had 2 games passing over 400 and was selected as player of the week twice. PlayerRep cheery picks what he wants to misrepresent GJ for his own personal reasons.
 
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