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Since dead period...maybe hire coaches?

Good Grief! The coaches are scattered all over on this last weekend of recruiting before the dead period. Give-em a chance to get back to Missoula, maybe Stitt wants to meet with some/all in the same room before decisions are made, or made public. The day Ty announced his decision to leave, Stitt said the the DC coach would be announced shortly. It has been 6 days. that is still "shortly"
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizpack said:
You don't like Stitt as coach at UM. We all get it. Over and Over and Over.
If you "got it," then why try to keep claiming that you do?

But, why not answer the question then? How does recruiting for the Colorado School of Mines translate to FCS? You must know, right? Because it's "anti-Stitt" to simply point that out?

How does recruiting for Div. II Northern Colorado translate to FCS?

Somehow our former "inexperienced coach" as far as "recruiting for FCS" with that level of experience got the Griz to two chippers, and won one of them.

Coaches move up all the time. It's hardly inconceivable that a coach could quickly learn what talent level is necessary at the next level, especially one who a horde of experienced and talented coaches agree is as football savvy as Coach Stitt is. And he's had a year recruiting at this level. He's not a rookie any more.

Not to mention the fact that he had, and still has, assistant coaches who have recruited on this level, with great success over the years.
 
UMGriz75 said:
Ursus1 said:
Not releasing info on coaching hires, promotions can be seen as a program in disarray. Watch the ESPN ticker, new coaching roles are happening all the time and being announced. Unless you fear the announcement is a sign of a poor hiring ?

Too, this is all new. Stitt has never recruited before where he is able to actually recruit genuine football athletes from a large population pool. He's a first timer at all this. This is the least experienced coach, from the standpoint of recruiting, that UM has ever had.

I'm remember Bob Stitt recruiting in New York the week before Montana hired him. If you can't stop making shit up, maybe you should find another team to troll.
 
Maybe this is just me....but with the limitations due to academics that Stitt had at CSM......wouldn't that mean he has more experience....you know...since he had to dig deeper into the population pool to find football players....
 
maroonandsilver said:
Good Grief! The coaches are scattered all over on this last weekend of recruiting before the dead period. Give-em a chance to get back to Missoula, maybe Stitt wants to meet with some/all in the same room before decisions are made, or made public. The day Ty announced his decision to leave, Stitt said the the DC coach would be announced shortly. It has been 6 days. that is still "shortly"

Again with the GD logic.
 
griz4life said:
I'm remember Bob Stitt recruiting in New York the week before Montana hired him. If you can't stop making shit up, maybe you should find another team to troll.
Jayzuz. Some of you are like little girls whose teen poster idol just got criticized for singing off-key. Grow up just a tad.

I can appreciate that Bob Stitt was "in New York" -- tells you a lot, doesn't it? -- recruiting high school football standouts for the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference, and requiring an SAT well above 1750 on top of it, and finding top notch athletes everywhere just wanting to be a mining engineer, right? I'd bet Stitt was just overwhelmed with possibilities. Or are you just "making shit up?"
 
Wow, 75 is the most narcissistic poster I've ever read, which is impressive given the on-line competition. If you sit back and watch without emotion, disabilities like this are simply fascinating to observe.
 
astutegriz said:
Wow, 75 is the most narcissistic poster I've ever read, which is impressive given the on-line competition. If you sit back and watch without emotion, disabilities like this are simply fascinating to observe.
I am intrigued. I look at a recruiting methodology and experience, and the responses consist of ad hominem attacks. Pull down your dresses girls and stop running in circles screaming. You know, "without emotion."
 
grizindabox said:
Maybe this is just me....but with the limitations due to academics that Stitt had at CSM......wouldn't that mean he has more experience....you know...since he had to dig deeper into the population pool to find football players....
Everyone always fails to mention the recruits that go to places for academic reasons. By your logic Stanford University would never win a game. Sometimes coaches do well at schools with high academics and terrible at state universities. Have you ever heard of Tyrone Willingham?
 
UMGriz75 said:
astutegriz said:
Wow, 75 is the most narcissistic poster I've ever read, which is impressive given the on-line competition. If you sit back and watch without emotion, disabilities like this are simply fascinating to observe.
I am intrigued. I look at a recruiting methodology and experience, and the responses consist of ad hominem attacks. Pull down your dresses girls and stop running in circles screaming. You know, "without emotion."

BS. You criticize every move you don't agree with, a tall order for someone who's not inside the tent, and has none of the facts behind the scene. Since you don't want to accept or understand or trust his methods, all you have is complaint and denigration. And absence of any self-reflection.
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
BS. You criticize every move you don't agree with, a tall order for someone who's not inside the tent, and has none of the facts behind the scene. Since you don't want to accept or understand or trust his methods, all you have is complaint and denigration. And absence of any self-reflection.
Thank you for your gratuitous and far ranging ad hominem attack.

And this has to do with the thread topic and Stitt's recruiting history of players and coaches at "Mines," how?

Do you think they are equal challenges?
 
UMGriz75 said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
BS. You criticize every move you don't agree with, a tall order for someone who's not inside the tent, and has none of the facts behind the scene. Since you don't want to accept or understand or trust his methods, all you have is complaint and denigration. And absence of any self-reflection.
Thank you for your gratuitous and far ranging ad hominem attack.

And this has to do with the thread topic and Stitt's recruiting history of players and coaches at "Mines," how?

Do you think they are equal challenges?

Actually he did recruit solid players at Mines and had to reject some very good players who wanted to play for him but did not meet the requirements for the school. As far as coaches go he hired coaches that were very good teachers of the game. (For those on here who know who I am they know I have been in the coaching field a very long time.)
 
Triwest said:
UMGriz75 said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
BS. You criticize every move you don't agree with, a tall order for someone who's not inside the tent, and has none of the facts behind the scene. Since you don't want to accept or understand or trust his methods, all you have is complaint and denigration. And absence of any self-reflection.
Thank you for your gratuitous and far ranging ad hominem attack.

And this has to do with the thread topic and Stitt's recruiting history of players and coaches at "Mines," how?

Do you think they are equal challenges?

Actually he did recruit solid players at Mines and had to reject some very good players who wanted to play for him but did not meet the requirements for the school. As far as coaches go he hired coaches that were very good teachers of the game. (For those on here who know who I am they know I have been in the coaching field a very long time.)
Coach Ash?
 
UMGriz75 said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
BS. You criticize every move you don't agree with, a tall order for someone who's not inside the tent, and has none of the facts behind the scene. Since you don't want to accept or understand or trust his methods, all you have is complaint and denigration. And absence of any self-reflection.
Thank you for your gratuitous and far ranging ad hominem attack.

And this has to do with the thread topic and Stitt's recruiting history of players and coaches at "Mines," how?

Do you think they are equal challenges?

Just a Factual observation about a poster's lack of knowledge on a subject about which he posts, acknowledging the pattern repeats regardless of the subject. And a final observation that in the face of valid criticisms in the past, the poster regularly fails to acknowledge his opinions might lack factual support ( be wrong). I didn't criticize you as stupid, fat or ugly as I don't have those facts.

And since, like you, I don't know everything on Stitt's plate, I can't comment other than to give the guy room to sink or swim on his own actions. As a fan, he has my support through these interesting times.
 
indian-outlaw said:
grizindabox said:
Maybe this is just me....but with the limitations due to academics that Stitt had at CSM......wouldn't that mean he has more experience....you know...since he had to dig deeper into the population pool to find football players....
Everyone always fails to mention the recruits that go to places for academic reasons. By your logic Stanford University would never win a game. Sometimes coaches do well at schools with high academics and terrible at state universities. Have you ever heard of Tyrone Willingham?

My point was that 75 was loves making assumptions...attempting to make people think his opinions are facts...if you were to believe his premise....then no coach that moves from D2 to FCS or similar should be able to recruit....or at a minimum...be unable to recognize the type of recruit necessary at a higher level.....
 
Triwest said:
Actually he did recruit solid players at Mines and had to reject some very good players who wanted to play for him but did not meet the requirements for the school. As far as coaches go he hired coaches that were very good teachers of the game. (For those on here who know who I am they know I have been in the coaching field a very long time.)
Although vague, that's a fair response.

Although it does invite the question, why would a "very good player" want to go to the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference? Pac-12, I can understand. RMAC, not so much.

I notice that "Fort Lewis" is a member of the conference; not sure why MSU chose to play them this past season (45-14), but then I notice that UM played them in 2007 to a 49-0 win. "Mines" beat them that year as well, 25-22.

The only other crossover for the RMAC I could briefly locate was MSU beating Chadron State, 33-6 in 2012, but then Chadron State beating "Mines" in the same year, 20-14. That was a 6-5 season for Coach Sitt.
 
grizindabox said:
..then no coach that moves from D2 to FCS or similar should be able to recruit....or at a minimum...be unable to recognize the type of recruit necessary at a higher level.....
Nice try. Didn't actually say that, though, did I?

I pointed out that the challenges were different. But, since that wasn't enough for you, you had to put words in my mouth. You do it enough.

It does raise the question, and we have a great opportunity to see for ourselves.

I am sure we all looking forward to it, and continuing and improved success for the Griz. Go Griz!
 
UMGriz75 said:
Too, this is all new. Stitt has never recruited before where he is able to actually recruit genuine football athletes from a large population pool. He's a first timer at all this. This is the least experienced coach, from the standpoint of recruiting, that UM has ever had.

Bringing up fellow Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference coaches who are equally inexperienced doesn't solve the problem when he's losing his experienced FCS-level coaches with long FCS-level experience -- and success -- at recruiting. And that goes for coaches as well as athletes.

75....so this isn't you implying that D2 level coaches...especially Stitt...have no idea how to succeed at FCS recruiting....
 
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