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Showdown looming at UC-Davis... students don't want to pay athletics fees

CDAGRIZ said:
AZGrizFan said:
I don't care about all that mumbo jumbo. They don't want athletics fees? Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya on the way out. And take Suck State with you. Presto change-o, one less BSC team to worry about.

Totally agree, AZ. I was just responding to the conversation.

Can't administrations just find a way to bake the athletic fee into tuition? Just say, "OK, great job. You win. Based on your incredible arguments, athletic fees are now $70 per year. On a completely unrelated note, we will be raising full time tuition by $500 to offset inflation." Problem solved.

That sounds suspiciously like “new math”…. :geek: :geek:
 
SoldierGriz said:
indian-outlaw said:
Shows what you know, research and Phd's are the very definition of universities vs college. And Davis is one of the very best in the country.. Oh, and it is not harder to get into Poly, not sure where you got that idea but it aint do. Also, starting salaries are not necessarily the measuring stick. Poly is a great school but itis primarily an engineering school which inflates their salaries. Davis has an engineering school which is every bit as good.

Really? I thought universities existed to propel people into the workforce. Are you suggesting they exist to produce PhDs to compete for grants to do research?

And, it is harder to get into CP. That is just a fact. Feel free to look it up...there are literally dozens of sources.
Ok doggie... What then is the difference between colleges and universities? Hint. It isn't who propels more people into the work force. I think you're mistaking welding school for a university.
 
kemajic said:
GrizLA said:
I would hope so, as Montana profits greatly from UC research. You live in a rural town, and should know that. I've never heard of shrinking student enrollment in any school in Calif., much less the top tier. That is tax money well spent. I've paid a lot in taxes in Calif. and happy to do so because what we get back is what makes that place a center of creativity and enterprise, and agricultural advances. Nothing wrong with taxes if they are well spent.
A conversation of how CA taxes are spent would be instructive, but it would get into politics and create a lot of whining.

Also, nobody really knows. :lol:
 
AZGrizFan said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Totally agree, AZ. I was just responding to the conversation.

Can't administrations just find a way to bake the athletic fee into tuition? Just say, "OK, great job. You win. Based on your incredible arguments, athletic fees are now $70 per year. On a completely unrelated note, we will be raising full time tuition by $500 to offset inflation." Problem solved.

That sounds suspiciously like “new math”…. :geek: :geek:

You don’t say… ;)
 
indian-outlaw said:
SoldierGriz said:
Really? I thought universities existed to propel people into the workforce. Are you suggesting they exist to produce PhDs to compete for grants to do research?

And, it is harder to get into CP. That is just a fact. Feel free to look it up...there are literally dozens of sources.
Ok doggie... What then is the difference between colleges and universities? Hint. It isn't who propels more people into the work force. I think you're mistaking welding school for a university.

Because welding school and Cal Poly are the same thing?

They actually might be: grads of either earn more than UCD grads.
 
SoldierGriz said:
indian-outlaw said:
Shows what you know, research and Phd's are the very definition of universities vs college. And Davis is one of the very best in the country.. Oh, and it is not harder to get into Poly, not sure where you got that idea but it aint do. Also, starting salaries are not necessarily the measuring stick. Poly is a great school but itis primarily an engineering school which inflates their salaries. Davis has an engineering school which is every bit as good.

Really? I thought universities existed to propel people into the workforce. Are you suggesting they exist to produce PhDs to compete for grants to do research?

And, it is harder to get into CP. That is just a fact. Feel free to look it up...there are literally dozens of sources.
I thought they existed as opportunities for people to learn stuff.
 
SaskGriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
Really? I thought universities existed to propel people into the workforce. Are you suggesting they exist to produce PhDs to compete for grants to do research?

And, it is harder to get into CP. That is just a fact. Feel free to look it up...there are literally dozens of sources.
I thought they existed as opportunities for people to learn stuff.

I thought they existed to delay entry into the real world….
 
SoldierGriz said:
indian-outlaw said:
Ok doggie... What then is the difference between colleges and universities? Hint. It isn't who propels more people into the work force. I think you're mistaking welding school for a university.

Because welding school and Cal Poly are the same thing?

They actually might be: grads of either earn more than UCD grads.

One is the #10 public and #38 overall university in the country. The other doesn’t show up on those rankings, but is the #2 regional college in the US, right behind Trinity. SLO is very good at the school2work program. Davis has more students who go on to graduate school. Two different types of schools. Apples and oranges, really.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
SoldierGriz said:
Because welding school and Cal Poly are the same thing?

They actually might be: grads of either earn more than UCD grads.

One is the #10 public and #38 overall university in the country. The other doesn’t show up on those rankings, but is the #2 regional college in the US, right behind Trinity. SLO is very good at the school2work program. Davis has more students who go on to graduate school. Two different types of schools. Apples and oranges, really.

What about the welders tho?
 
SoldierGriz said:
CDAGRIZ said:
One is the #10 public and #38 overall university in the country. The other doesn’t show up on those rankings, but is the #2 regional college in the US, right behind Trinity. SLO is very good at the school2work program. Davis has more students who go on to graduate school. Two different types of schools. Apples and oranges, really.

What about the welders tho?

That was a ridiculous comment, imo.
 
GrizLA said:
kemajic said:
So lucky to pay those taxes.

I would hope so, as Montana profits greatly from UC research. You live in a rural town, and should know that. I've never heard of shrinking student enrollment in any school in Calif., much less the top tier. That is tax money well spent. I've paid a lot in taxes in Calif. and happy to do so because what we get back is what makes that place a center of creativity and enterprise, and agricultural advances. Nothing wrong with taxes if they are well spent.
Yes I agree . Just look at what all the major California cities have done with all those tax dollars, you can now shop with a sledge hammer in all the high end markets, get anything you want with no consequences. Such a creative new enterprise.
California should be so proud.
 
futuregrizer said:
GrizLA said:
I would hope so, as Montana profits greatly from UC research. You live in a rural town, and should know that. I've never heard of shrinking student enrollment in any school in Calif., much less the top tier. That is tax money well spent. I've paid a lot in taxes in Calif. and happy to do so because what we get back is what makes that place a center of creativity and enterprise, and agricultural advances. Nothing wrong with taxes if they are well spent.
Yes I agree . Just look at what all the major California cities have done with all those tax dollars, you can now shop with a sledge hammer in all the high end markets, get anything you want with no consequences. Such a creative new enterprise.
California should be so proud.

Yep, LA and SF make up all of California. There’s really nothing else here. I went to Drummond once, so I’ve pretty much experienced the entire state.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
futuregrizer said:
Yes I agree . Just look at what all the major California cities have done with all those tax dollars, you can now shop with a sledge hammer in all the high end markets, get anything you want with no consequences. Such a creative new enterprise.
California should be so proud.

Yep, LA and SF make up all of California. There’s really nothing else here. I went to Drummond once, so I’ve pretty much experienced the entire state.
It's a symptom of everything broken in California. Wokeness and indifference will kill California and the rest of the country.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
futuregrizer said:
Yes I agree . Just look at what all the major California cities have done with all those tax dollars, you can now shop with a sledge hammer in all the high end markets, get anything you want with no consequences. Such a creative new enterprise.
California should be so proud.

Yep, LA and SF make up all of California. There’s really nothing else here. I went to Drummond once, so I’ve pretty much experienced the entire state.
A lot of CA towns make the news, e.g., Walnut Creek.....
 
kemajic said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Yep, LA and SF make up all of California. There’s really nothing else here. I went to Drummond once, so I’ve pretty much experienced the entire state.
A lot of CA towns make the news, e.g., Walnut Creek.....

It’s strange because I live in this state and haven’t heard anything in the news about Walnut Creek. Never been there, but I’ve heard it’s not exactly Newport.
 
futuregrizer said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Yep, LA and SF make up all of California. There’s really nothing else here. I went to Drummond once, so I’ve pretty much experienced the entire state.
It's a symptom of everything broken in California. Wokeness and indifference will kill California and the rest of the country.

Remember that dude who shot people in Missoula a few years ago? I haven’t been back to Montana since because everybody shoots people. Heard it on the news.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
kemajic said:
A lot of CA towns make the news, e.g., Walnut Creek.....

It’s strange because I live in this state and haven’t heard anything in the news about Walnut Creek. Never been there, but I’ve heard it’s not exactly Newport.
Not carried by the media you'd be aligned with. Big time smash and grab mob, most of downtown. Google works. Just an example that it's not just SF and LA. As you know.
 
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