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Sanders is a very good player. Big hitter. Mobile. Very good athlete. He probably had some rust from not having played in a game this season. Not an easy game to start back in. He'll be fine and have a nice sesaon, is my view.
 
PlayerRep said:
Sanders is a very good player. Big hitter. Mobile. Very good athlete. He probably had some rust from not having played in a game this season. Not an easy game to start back in. He'll be fine and have a nice sesaon, is my view.
I think your wrong. I haven't played the game, but I have owned and sat in a hell of a lot of armchairs.
 
I agree that this was certainly not a day for the safeties and that Sanders in particular did not look up to his usual standards. But a good deal of this was due to the defensive scheme being used, which was in place to stop the triple option. The Griz D did this, holding CP to 270 +/- yards rushing and their lowest total yardage of the season.

Cal Poly is a very good football team which, as compared to the last few years now has a qb that can both run and pass effectively. They are going to be in the mix come playoff time, and based on what they showed yesterday could very possibly win or tie for the BSC title.
 
As an afterthought did anyone pick up on the similarities to last years game? In the end CP made their 49 yard field goal. We did not.
 
PlayerRep said:
Sanders is a very good player. Big hitter. Mobile. Very good athlete. He probably had some rust from not having played in a game this season. Not an easy game to start back in. He'll be fine and have a nice sesaon, is my view.


Mobile? Maybe early, but not late. Did you not see him lumbering after a receiver who went flying right by him. Added a lot of muscle in offseason, that can slow you and requires a lot of oxygen so get gassed pretty easy...ask any wrestler how a muscle bound guy tends to do in late minutes of a match....out of gas. All the running a safety has to do covering passes and increased run support with option team surely took its toll.
 
Ursus1 said:
PlayerRep said:
Sanders is a very good player. Big hitter. Mobile. Very good athlete. He probably had some rust from not having played in a game this season. Not an easy game to start back in. He'll be fine and have a nice sesaon, is my view.


Mobile? Maybe early, but not late. Did you not see him lumbering after a receiver who went flying right by him. Added a lot of muscle in offseason, that can slow you and requires a lot of oxygen so get gassed pretty easy...ask any wrestler how a muscle bound guy tends to do in late minutes of a match....out of gas. All the running a safety has to do covering passes and increased run support with option team surely took its toll.

Lumbering wasn't the problem. He got completely beat. He didn't anticipate that the receiver was going to go long. Not even an NFL safety could have recovered from the mistake that was made. This happens sometimes. Sanders is usually good in coverage. Your comment shows me that you have never played the game, at least in the secondary. Jeez, look at the play again. Tv showed the replay. He's a very good player, in fact big time, but he totally blew that coverage.
 
Well said again PR. Yamen played poorly. But he's a beast and the coaches and players and opposing coaches and players know it, and he'll rebound. Kinda funny how everybody is ripping Yamen for being in there, and I even saw Semore get called out earlier in this thread for "rushing him back." I can tell you that was absolutely NOT Semore's call. But I wonder if Griz fans will criticize the coach who made the call to start Yamen. Or if they'll change their tune about it knowing which coach made the call to put him in the starting lineup.
 
havgrizfan said:
Well said again PR. Yamen played poorly. But he's a beast and the coaches and players and opposing coaches and players know it, and he'll rebound. Kinda funny how everybody is ripping Yamen for being in there, and I even saw Semore get called out earlier in this thread for "rushing him back." I can tell you that was absolutely NOT Semore's call. But I wonder if Griz fans will criticize the coach who made the call to start Yamen. Or if they'll change their tune about it knowing which coach made the call to put him in the starting lineup.

Interesting. I'm not one saying Sanders played poorly. Could have done better, tho. I'm a believer.
 
Strong left the game late, did anyone notice if he came back? Looked like something with his lower-back. Hopefully he can come back 100%, if there's one guy we can't lose in the secondary, it's Strong.


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brewskis said:
Strong left the game late, did anyone notice if he came back? Looked like something with his lower-back. Hopefully he can come back 100%, if there's one guy we can't lose in the secondary, it's Strong.


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I didn't see it, but someone said Sanders left the game right about the same time Strong went out. I take it they were minor injuries since no one is talking about it.
 
brewskis said:
Strong left the game late, did anyone notice if he came back? Looked like something with his lower-back. Hopefully he can come back 100%, if there's one guy we can't lose in the secondary, it's Strong.


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Yeah, he looked like he was hurting....
 
Sanders left with injury and his first play back CP torched him. Good play calling for CP they exploited a injured player. Strong got nicked up early in game wasn't the same after that.

Safeties did not have their best day, neither did the CBs. LBs got lost on edges following the ball instead of pitch man, there was a definite exposure of young aggressive players. DL played superb, would have been nice to see Dano get lit up on every running play even after pitch.

Thought Dano was going to be out permanently after some of the first half punishment, to his credit he was able to stay somewhat clean and finish the game.

Plenty of blame to go around on D play. Seymore had players in position in a lot of the edge runs, but players were drawn to the ball carrier like a bugs to a light then pitch and they were one step behind the pitch player.

Youth or limited experience by LBs created extra pressure on DBs. Safeties will be fine with passing offenses.
 
Diesel said:
DL played superb


Our interior DL played all right but our DE's played like crap. There is a reason why CP always got to the edge. I dont know how many times Ryan Johnson got sucked in, i lost count..
 
grizcountry420 said:
Diesel said:
DL played superb


Our interior DL played all right but our DE's played like crap. There is a reason why CP always got to the edge. I dont know how many times Ryan Johnson got sucked in, i lost count..
There was room for improvement in the front 7...overall I think they did their job though. Just can't get over those 3 passing touchdowns....un-freaking believable. We keep the lid on the back end and we force them to kick some field goals. We do that and we win the game.


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brewskis said:
grizcountry420 said:
Diesel said:
DL played superb


Our interior DL played all right but our DE's played like crap. There is a reason why CP always got to the edge. I dont know how many times Ryan Johnson got sucked in, i lost count..
There was room for improvement in the front 7...overall I think they did their job though. Just can't get over those 3 passing touchdowns....un-freaking believable. We keep the lid on the back end and we force them to kick some field goals. We do that and we win the game.


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Yup. Those guys were wide open, awful coverage..
 
grizcountry420 said:
brewskis said:
grizcountry420 said:
Diesel said:
DL played superb


Our interior DL played all right but our DE's played like crap. There is a reason why CP always got to the edge. I dont know how many times Ryan Johnson got sucked in, i lost count..
There was room for improvement in the front 7...overall I think they did their job though. Just can't get over those 3 passing touchdowns....un-freaking believable. We keep the lid on the back end and we force them to kick some field goals. We do that and we win the game.


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Yup. Those guys were wide open, awful coverage..
All we needed was to hold them to a fukking field goal. But no.....all touchdowns, all day. Pair that with our INCREDIBLY poorly timed turnovers, and it's a wonder we only lost by one. This is getting a little away from safeties.....but that's is right there.


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Wasn't YS playing man coverage on that last TD of CP? Why not put a back up corner in as Sanders just left with cramps? That is a head scratcher!
 
granitegriz said:
Wasn't YS playing man coverage on that last TD of CP? Why not put a back up corner in as Sanders just left with cramps? That is a head scratcher!

More worried about run......not going to use 1 safety look......
 
Strong is not a big guy, but flies around good in run game prone to injury. Sanders huge, but does not look healthy. Hope these guys heal up, their up side is high when they are healthy.
 
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