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Sac state vs jackrabbits

hilinegrizfan said:
This game is a joke. This is the result of unbalanced schedule. Winning the big sky championship means nothing if you don’t play the top teams. Need to figure this shit out big sky
They've figured it out, you just don't like it. What other options are there that are better, smart man?

What was the joke? SacSt made too many mistakes in the first half which SDSU was good enough to make it cost them. On any given week, they're as good as any other BSC team. They had SDSU on their heels the whole 2nd half.
 
behappp said:
hilinegrizfan said:
This game is a joke. This is the result of unbalanced schedule. Winning the big sky championship means nothing if you don’t play the top teams. Need to figure this shit out big sky

Well they did beat the top team IMO
28-21 in WaGriz
Or is there another top team in the Big Sky?

Before we start bitching about how unfair the committee is to the BSC we need the BSC to start kicking ass in the playoffs. Right now it looks like the team that was 4th in the MVC is about to clean the clocks of 2 of the top 5 teams in the BSC.
Griz and the Scats better be kicking some butt next weekend or the reputation of the BSC will be severely damaged.
MSU doesn't match up well with SHSU, who play rush D like us but is loose against the pass. MSU has no pass offense to scare them.
 
jodcon said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Serious question, what is the solution to the problem as you see it?

I’ll answer this as an observer not looking for a debate…there is no solution.

The only option to make this a truly-crowned champion is through addition or subtraction, down to 10 teams or up to at least 14. 10 teams you play everybody and have 2 OOC games of your choice. 14 (or 16) teams you split into 2 groups and play everybody in your league, and cross over into the other league for a couple games and have 2 or 3 OOC games with outside teams. And then the subconference champs play for the conference title. BUT even then it really doesn’t work that well because our subconference would undoubtedly contain UM, MSU, and EWU who have been the traditional powers so the other side could very well be a Sac State coming out of it, although they would have to beat the survivor of our side to be the overall champion and highest seed. And also there’s questions with the 2 crossover games…counted as conference games? …determined by what? Southern Utah could draw UM and EWU as their 2 crossovers, NAU could get NoCo and Idaho…that would cause some angst.
How many times is needed to remind that FCS with its playoffs does not enable conf. championship games. CAA has been divided into two groups for many years with no conf. championship game. No better than the BSC.
 
hilinegrizfan said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Serious question, what is the solution to the problem as you see it?

I guess what I’m saying is because of the unbalanced schedule, the playoff committee should look closer and not award such a high seed just because of the big sky title. Sac state getting the 4 seed is just ridiculous IMO. Griz, EWU, cats all have much more impressive resumes. Big sky champ holds no weight IMO
UM had a better resume when SacSt beat us in our own house and we lost two conf. games? There was nothing ridiculous about the 4th seed for SacSt. EWU lost two home conf. games. MSU was blown out by UM, embarrassed. Those things never happened to SacSt, their losses were to Cal and UNI early in the year. They took care of business until the first half of today's game.
 
kemajic said:
hilinegrizfan said:
I guess what I’m saying is because of the unbalanced schedule, the playoff committee should look closer and not award such a high seed just because of the big sky title. Sac state getting the 4 seed is just ridiculous IMO. Griz, EWU, cats all have much more impressive resumes. Big sky champ holds no weight IMO
UM had a better resume when SacSt beat us in our own house and we lost two conf. games? There was nothing ridiculous about the 4th seed for SacSt. EWU lost two home conf. games. MSU was blown out by UM, embarrassed. Those things never happened to SacSt, their losses were to Cal and UNI early in the year. They took care of business until the first half of today's game.

One could make the argument that griz were nowhere near full strength. However, I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong. They had strong showing 2nd half. I stand by my word of not deserving #4 though.
 
jodcon said:
How did they not know that was coming? QB gave it away with his non-academy award performance.

apparently their defense doesn't watch trick play videos on YouTube, except that one guy who was pointing
 
kemajic said:
jodcon said:
I’ll answer this as an observer not looking for a debate…there is no solution.

The only option to make this a truly-crowned champion is through addition or subtraction, down to 10 teams or up to at least 14. 10 teams you play everybody and have 2 OOC games of your choice. 14 (or 16) teams you split into 2 groups and play everybody in your league, and cross over into the other league for a couple games and have 2 or 3 OOC games with outside teams. And then the subconference champs play for the conference title. BUT even then it really doesn’t work that well because our subconference would undoubtedly contain UM, MSU, and EWU who have been the traditional powers so the other side could very well be a Sac State coming out of it, although they would have to beat the survivor of our side to be the overall champion and highest seed. And also there’s questions with the 2 crossover games…counted as conference games? …determined by what? Southern Utah could draw UM and EWU as their 2 crossovers, NAU could get NoCo and Idaho…that would cause some angst.
How many times is needed to remind that FCS with its playoffs does not enable conf. championship games. CAA has been divided into two groups for many years with no conf. championship game. No better than the BSC.

I did not realize that, so I guess unless this conference ends up at 10 teams or less through movement of some kind we are never going to have a clear cut champion and will continue to see champions/co-champions who have avoided one or more killer teams due to the unbalanced schedule.

I should have quit at…the solution is, there is no solution. 😆
 
jodcon said:
kemajic said:
How many times is needed to remind that FCS with its playoffs does not enable conf. championship games. CAA has been divided into two groups for many years with no conf. championship game. No better than the BSC.

I did not realize that, so I guess unless this conference ends up at 10 teams or less through movement of some kind we are never going to have a clear cut champion and will continue to see champions/co-champions who have avoided one or more killer teams due to the unbalanced schedule.

I should have quit at…the solution is, there is no solution. 😆

We all know the Big Sky isn't going to kick out any members, so the best we can hope for is simple attrition. It was good to get rid of Southern Utah and North Dakota, but in the meantime we got Idaho back and no one else is leaving. The BSC with 12 teams and the FCS playoffs with 24 teams are both ridiculous but not changing anytime soon.
 
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