I asked her if advisor or anyone questioned her intentions after earning Masters as far as becoming K-12 principal/superintendent. She said she's never heard that, the U of M was just very glad to take her money quickly.
signedbewildered said:Was maybe just timing/availability? She thinks on site courses are sporadic/staggered too?
SoldierGriz said:signedbewildered said:Was maybe just timing/availability? She thinks on site courses are sporadic/staggered too?
So they now offer courses every other year? WTF is going on? They better get their shit together...
Sorry..can't enroll you this year...but a year from now we can get you rolling....
This is standard across multiple departments at UM and multiple schools with a similar faculty size as UM. MSU also staggers classes across 3-5 semesters, depending on the department. This allows for a wider array of class options for students over time.signedbewildered said:SoldierGriz said:signedbewildered said:Was maybe just timing/availability? She thinks on site courses are sporadic/staggered too?
So they now offer courses every other year? WTF is going on? They better get their shit together...
Sorry..can't enroll you this year...but a year from now we can get you rolling....
I know. She was saying shes a bit overwhelmed with all she is taking right now but had to take the one because they didnt offer it next year (at least on line). Not sure if thats a standard thing with some classes at any university? Dont have a clue or if its even relevant to this thread but it would be a little hard for Rice to finish up if that course wasn't available.
uofmman1122 said:This is standard across multiple departments at UM and multiple schools with a similar faculty size as UM. MSU also staggers classes across 3-5 semesters, depending on the department. This allows for a wider array of class options for students over time.signedbewildered said:SoldierGriz said:signedbewildered said:Was maybe just timing/availability? She thinks on site courses are sporadic/staggered too?
So they now offer courses every other year? WTF is going on? They better get their shit together...
Sorry..can't enroll you this year...but a year from now we can get you rolling....
I know. She was saying shes a bit overwhelmed with all she is taking right now but had to take the one because they didnt offer it next year (at least on line). Not sure if thats a standard thing with some classes at any university? Dont have a clue or if its even relevant to this thread but it would be a little hard for Rice to finish up if that course wasn't available.
As an oversimplified example, if you have six professors that can only teach one elective class per semester, and your degree requires six elective classes, but you want to make the professors teach the same classes every semester, students are forced to take all of the classes whether they’re interested in them or not.
You can fix this by offering 9-12 classes staggered over two years, which allows students in a two year program to take the six classes they’re interested in over the entire course of their degree.
Sometimes this unfortunately runs into staggering required courses, especially in a budget/staffing shortfall like what UM is experiencing. So when you have proper resources, it’s a better system that just sucks when the resources start to run dry, but that becomes a problem of necessity rather than choice.
Oh the humanity!SoldierGriz said:...
Or, professors can teach more classes. They need to clearly produce programs of value to students who can finish efficiently. Students looking for 5 year bachelor to master programs. Cost of staying longer is the problem...prohibitive to many.
...one elective per semester...geez...
IdaGriz01 said:Oh the humanity!SoldierGriz said:...
Or, professors can teach more classes. They need to clearly produce programs of value to students who can finish efficiently. Students looking for 5 year bachelor to master programs. Cost of staying longer is the problem...prohibitive to many.
...one elective per semester...geez...
But I will say this about narrowly-focused (i.e. highly specialized) graduate classes ... in the sciences, anyway. "Back in the day" when I taught grad chemistry, we seldom taught those advanced classes every year. That was not because we had some arbitrary schedule imposed. There simply were not enough students interested/ready for that class. But if a student absolutely needed that one class to complete his/her degree, I was allowed to teach the same material as a "special studies" class (or whatever, I don't recall the exact terminology). I even have a vague recollection that I taught a two-student "class" (as special studies) because two were in that situation. So, at least some years back, there were ways to serve the students without breaking the system. FYI: These were University of Idaho grad classes.
I see you missed where I said it’s an oversimplified example. Professors teach multiple required and elective classes per semester. It still results in a staggered schedule.SoldierGriz said:uofmman1122 said:This is standard across multiple departments at UM and multiple schools with a similar faculty size as UM. MSU also staggers classes across 3-5 semesters, depending on the department. This allows for a wider array of class options for students over time.signedbewildered said:SoldierGriz said:So they now offer courses every other year? WTF is going on? They better get their shit together...
Sorry..can't enroll you this year...but a year from now we can get you rolling....
I know. She was saying shes a bit overwhelmed with all she is taking right now but had to take the one because they didnt offer it next year (at least on line). Not sure if thats a standard thing with some classes at any university? Dont have a clue or if its even relevant to this thread but it would be a little hard for Rice to finish up if that course wasn't available.
As an oversimplified example, if you have six professors that can only teach one elective class per semester, and your degree requires six elective classes, but you want to make the professors teach the same classes every semester, students are forced to take all of the classes whether they’re interested in them or not.
You can fix this by offering 9-12 classes staggered over two years, which allows students in a two year program to take the six classes they’re interested in over the entire course of their degree.
Sometimes this unfortunately runs into staggering required courses, especially in a budget/staffing shortfall like what UM is experiencing. So when you have proper resources, it’s a better system that just sucks when the resources start to run dry, but that becomes a problem of necessity rather than choice.
Or, professors can teach more classes. They need to clearly produce programs of value to students who can finish efficiently. Students looking for 5 year bachelor to master programs. Cost of staying longer is the problem...prohibitive to many.
...one elective per semester...geez...
This.IdaGriz01 said:Oh the humanity!SoldierGriz said:...
Or, professors can teach more classes. They need to clearly produce programs of value to students who can finish efficiently. Students looking for 5 year bachelor to master programs. Cost of staying longer is the problem...prohibitive to many.
...one elective per semester...geez...
But I will say this about narrowly-focused (i.e. highly specialized) graduate classes ... in the sciences, anyway. "Back in the day" when I taught grad chemistry, we seldom taught those advanced classes every year. That was not because we had some arbitrary schedule imposed. There simply were not enough students interested/ready for that class. But if a student absolutely needed that one class to complete his/her degree, I was allowed to teach the same material as a "special studies" class (or whatever, I don't recall the exact terminology). I even have a vague recollection that I taught a two-student "class" (as special studies) because two were in that situation. So, at least some years back, there were ways to serve the students without breaking the system. FYI: These were University of Idaho grad classes.
SoldierGriz said:Still has nothing to do with admitting qualified students....