RTD?

[UncleRico]

Did you meet these people close to the program at DUI class?

They eliminated that class - couldn't find any sober instructors.

At least they ain't fishing

 

[AZGrizFan]

Hoopsfan might now be the biggest idiot on the board. To compare Alabama to the gris is laughable., yes Bama is still dominate. If Bama lost 5 out of 6 to Auburn and finished 6th in the SEC no one would consider them dominate. Some how little bro gris nation think Boobie 2.0 has returned the gris to the promise land with their awesome run to sixth place in the Big Sky.

Doesn't; RTD have to start after Hauck retired, not before it. Hauck has played the Griz 4 times and is 1-1 in past two seasons. Again, UM got back in 2021.UM was not 6th in the conference that year.

I didn't compare the Griz to Alabama; I said Alabama was still dominant. Learn to read. You are illiterate.

I would rather have my team finish 6th in the conference than have my team allow 2 coordinators with dui's, and another coach with criminal charges, to continue to coach. The Cat program is truly pathetic. What's wrong with your coach?

I’m sure you meant ‘Scats in that first sentence…Bobby’s never played the Griz….

 

[mthoopsfan]

Doesn't; RTD have to start after Hauck retired, not before it. Hauck has played the Cats 4 times and is 1-1 in past two seasons. Again, UM got back in 2021.UM was not 6th in the conference that year.

I didn't compare the Griz to Alabama; I said Alabama was still dominant. Learn to read. You are illiterate.

I would rather have my team finish 6th in the conference than have my team allow 2 coordinators with dui's, and another coach with criminal charges, to continue to coach. The Cat program is truly pathetic. What's wrong with your coach?

I’m sure you meant ‘Scats in that first sentence…Bobby’s never played the Griz….

That's what I said.

 

[Copper Griz]

My post is not meant to be negative. As a Cat fan I always saw Griz dominance as winning the Big Sky Conference, beating the Cats and going deep in the playoffs every year, That seemed to be the expectation of the Griz fans. And, those expectations were met during a good stretch of years. It appears that since Bobby returned, what is considered the expectation of dominance has been lowered. It is just an observation. Do you guys really feel that the level of play over the last few years meets your expectations of dominant. I think most of you on here expect better and should. I would be disappointed if you did not.Just throwing that out there. I agree with what has been mentioned on here, dominance for any team is much more difficult these days with the portal and nil.

The discussion hasn't been about what is dominant. It was about returning to dominance and perhaps not using the term as much. Those are different discussions. The Cats haven't been dominant in football ever in FCS, like the Griz clearly were for almost 25 years. The Griz were the winningest team in D-I football in the 2000s.

Feel free to tell us how the Cats are dominant in FCS. What happened to the Cats against the Griz in 2021? I'll tell you; the Cats got dominated. What about to the Cats against SDS last season? What kind of defense gives up 8 straight TD's to an FBS team, or whatever it was? Not even a bad defense gives up that many TD's.

The Cats had a very good running offense with 2 good running qb's. That's it. Not much more. We'll see if the Cats can build on that. The Cats barely beat bad EWU and NAU teams last season. Dummies like Poor and some other Cat trolls try to make the limited Cat success into something more than it has been.

In my view, the handling of the Cat dui's and other legal problems has undercut and diminished any success the Cats have built in their program. Truly pathetic. An embarrassment.

You raise some really good points in your post. I won’t even touch the DUI’s. Those speak for themselves and a bigger black eye could not be found for the program.
I was thinking about last year. The Cats had a very favorable schedule and squeezed out some games. Weber still amazes me. The Griz got what they served up in 2021. An arse kicking. Sometimes it just happens. Especially when your QB is injured. Cats never had to play Sac State and had a pretty easy walk into the playoffs. Very similar to what the Griz experienced in years past. I don’t see the Cats dominating anything this year. First game will be a punch in the mouth for them. They have to play the Griz on the road in one of the toughest environments in FCS. Good luck to them. They may be singing a different tune come November. They might not even have enough coaches by then. Their mantra for 2023 should be “can we stay sober?”

 

[Mousegriz]

RTD

RANKED......TSIXTH.......in DuhNation

"at the end of two of the past three seasons with one misleadingly non dominant Cat Win and 2 ass kicking losses. Two pretty expected early round playoff wins."

What a mantra old "westernmontanaladyhoopsfan"!!!??

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

They already redefined RTD and what it was supposed to mean. Most people thought it meant the griz football program dominating the conference and making it deep in the playoffs and to the championship game regularly. That's what griz football used to be about.

Today apparently RTD means beating the rival once in 6 years, and making it all the way up to 6th place.......... in the conference. New times we're living in.

At least, the Griz WERE dominant. The Cats never have been. Last and only championship almost 40 years ago.

“WE’RE dominate”. That’s classic! Hoops finally admitted the Griz have not returned to dominance!

 

[bigsky33]

My post is not meant to be negative. As a Cat fan I always saw Griz dominance as winning the Big Sky Conference, beating the Cats and going deep in the playoffs every year, That seemed to be the expectation of the Griz fans. And, those expectations were met during a good stretch of years. It appears that since Bobby returned, what is considered the expectation of dominance has been lowered. It is just an observation. Do you guys really feel that the level of play over the last few years meets your expectations of dominant. I think most of you on here expect better and should. I would be disappointed if you did not.Just throwing that out there. I agree with what has been mentioned on here, dominance for any team is much more difficult these days with the portal and nil.

The discussion hasn't been about what is dominant. It was about returning to dominance and perhaps not using the term as much. Those are different discussions. The Cats haven't been dominant in football ever in FCS, like the Griz clearly were for almost 25 years. The Griz were the winningest team in D-I football in the 2000s.

Feel free to tell us how the Cats are dominant in FCS. What happened to the Cats against the Griz in 2021? I'll tell you; the Cats got dominated. What about to the Cats against SDS last season? What kind of defense gives up 8 straight TD's to an FBS team, or whatever it was? Not even a bad defense gives up that many TD's.

The Cats had a very good running offense with 2 good running qb's. That's it. Not much more. We'll see if the Cats can build on that. The Cats barely beat bad EWU and NAU teams last season. Dummies like Poor and some other Cat trolls try to make the limited Cat success into something more than it has been.

In my view, the handling of the Cat dui's and other legal problems has undercut and diminished any success the Cats have built in their program. Truly pathetic. An embarrassment.

Hoops, I understand your points on the Cats. I am not disputing that. My post was just about looking at the Griz expectations from an outsider . I was always impressed with how fans had high expectations for their success. Like I said, the Griz lived up to them. My question is why does it seem expectations are lower now? I have read posts on here that they already have returned to dominance. I just don’t see that compared to earlier years when the Griz had that long streak. Calling them dominant now just doesn’t seem to compare with the dominance they had back then.

 

[Copper Griz]

RTD

RANKED......TSIXTH.......in DuhNation

"at the end of two of the past three seasons with one misleadingly non dominant Cat Win and 2 ass kicking losses. Two pretty expected early round playoff wins."

What a mantra old "westernmontanaladyhoopsfan"!!!??

“Non dominant Cat win?” Bwa ha ha. Surely you jest you moron. Did you watch the game? Clearly not. Clown

 

[3-7-77]

Their mantra for 2023 should be “can we stay sober?”

Drinking ain't the problem, DRIVING WHiLE DRUNK is the problem. You don't have the potential of maiming or killing someone if you are just coaching at practice or even a game. Guess the concept hasn't caught on with MSdUi's administration.

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

Feel free to ask Bobby if he considers SAC a rivalry game after losing to them three times in a row.

 

[EverettGriz]

Feel free to ask Bobby if he considers SAC a rivalry game after losing to them three times in a row.

He doesn’t.

We have one rival. Always have. Always will. And that rival loses to us 70% of the time. He sure as shit ain’t counting a team who loses to us us 90% of the time a rival.

 

[RainierGriz]

Feel free to ask Bobby if he considers SAC a rivalry game after losing to them three times in a row.

You have beat us 3 times in a row… and you and nowhere near a rival of ours. Do you really consider us a rival? Beautiful haha

 

[uofmman1122]

Feel free to ask Bobby if he considers SAC a rivalry game after losing to them three times in a row.

You have beat us 3 times in a row… and you and nowhere near a rival of ours. Do you really consider us a rival? Beautiful haha

Everybody wants to be our rival and thinks they are when we aren't curb stomping them repeatedly.

 

[Wolf777]

Feel free to ask Bobby if he considers SAC a rivalry game after losing to them three times in a row.

This has been asked of Hauck and was answered by him last season. We only have one rival, Period. And it certainly isn’t Wac State. You seriously have to be insane to taste a couple seasons of success and one playoff win in literally decades and think that you’re program means something in the grand scheme of things. See you in November, better dress warm.

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

Rivalry…definition…competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field.
You guys are correct. Since the Griz haven’t been competitive with SAC in the Bobby 2.0 era this game can’t be considered a rivalry.
Even if the Griz can find a way to win this November they will be 1-3. RTD.

 

[mthoopsfan]

The discussion hasn't been about what is dominant. It was about returning to dominance and perhaps not using the term as much. Those are different discussions. The Cats haven't been dominant in football ever in FCS, like the Griz clearly were for almost 25 years. The Griz were the winningest team in D-I football in the 2000s.

Feel free to tell us how the Cats are dominant in FCS. What happened to the Cats against the Griz in 2021? I'll tell you; the Cats got dominated. What about to the Cats against SDS last season? What kind of defense gives up 8 straight TD's to an FBS team, or whatever it was? Not even a bad defense gives up that many TD's.

The Cats had a very good running offense with 2 good running qb's. That's it. Not much more. We'll see if the Cats can build on that. The Cats barely beat bad EWU and NAU teams last season. Dummies like Poor and some other Cat trolls try to make the limited Cat success into something more than it has been.

In my view, the handling of the Cat dui's and other legal problems has undercut and diminished any success the Cats have built in their program. Truly pathetic. An embarrassment.

Hoops, I understand your points on the Cats. I am not disputing that. My post was just about looking at the Griz expectations from an outsider . I was always impressed with how fans had high expectations for their success. Like I said, the Griz lived up to them. My question is why does it seem expectations are lower now? I have read posts on here that they already have returned to dominance. I just don’t see that compared to earlier years when the Griz had that long streak. Calling them dominant now just doesn’t seem to compare with the dominance they had back then.

The Griz fans still have high expectations. I don't know if they are the same or lower now. In the glory days, I used to say that the Griz fans' expectations were too high and unrealistic, the fans didn't realize how good they had it, and the Griz would not stay on top forever.

The Griz fans know that going to or near the top doesn't occur overnight. Almost no FCS teams have every achieved that. We will see if NDSU can stay on it, as they have a challenger now. NDSU might be able to stay there. By the way, a former Griz player who worked with the athletic department at NDSU in the past half dozen or so years, told me that the program reminded him of Bobby's program. Said there were remarkable similarities.

Most of the current debate is over the progress Bobby has made. I and others believe the progress has been very good, and last year's slight dip, was a blip and due to Johnson's two injuries.

No one has said the Griz have returned to dominance except me, and I was mostly blowing smoke back at a Cat troll. But, as I wrote my posts, I realized that, but for last season, the team had gone towards the top very fast. At the end of 2021, the Griz were sitting good and just clobbered the Cats. I agree that the Griz, even at end of 2021, were not dominant like the old days. Of course, the Cats aren't dominant either, and never have been.

No one in Griz nation thinks that last year was okay. However, some of us understand the game well enough to be able to see most of what happened last year. This year's Griz team should be very good. Subject to how good the qb's are, and the couple holes that are still being filled. Besides transfers, there are younger guys in each of those holes.

The Cat running game is very good, and a bit unique, but it is not unstoppable (except for the Griz, ha). The overall offense is good too, especially with all the long pass jump balls there were successful last year. I still think there was some luck there. And the receiver making most of them is gone, I believe. Had Ifanse stayed, the offense would have been better. Ya, I know he was out most of last year, but he's a terrific rb. The Cat D has some weak players, and I've been told that by my coach friends (not Griz coaches). Your DC is not liked/respected by players, and doesn't even know the names of any but the best players. Calls them by number and not name. In your spring game, he was yelling at numbers.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Rivalry…definition…competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field.
You guys are correct. Since the Griz haven’t been competitive with SAC in the Bobby 2.0 era this game can’t be considered a rivalry.
Even if the Griz can find a way to win this November they will be 1-3. RTD.

At least, the Griz have been playing SS in recent years. The Cats haven't even been playing SS.

 

[kemajic]

Feel free to ask Bobby if he considers SAC a rivalry game after losing to them three times in a row.

He doesn’t.

We have one rival. Always have. Always will. And that rival loses to us 70% of the time. He sure as poop ain’t counting a team who loses to us us 90% of the time a rival.

Idaho was a rival long before MSDUI. Still is, whether recognized by the BSC or not.

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

He doesn’t.

We have one rival. Always have. Always will. And that rival loses to us 70% of the time. He sure as poop ain’t counting a team who loses to us us 90% of the time a rival.

Idaho was a rival long before MSDUI. Still is, whether recognized by the BSC or not.

I do still consider Idaho a rival, and have since I was little. I do care about keeping the Stein in Missoula, so I would call that a rival. Cool with me if Bobby and the BSC don't call them that, but to me, they are.

 

[ilovethecats]

Rivalry…definition…competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field.
You guys are correct. Since the Griz haven’t been competitive with SAC in the Bobby 2.0 era this game can’t be considered a rivalry.
Even if the Griz can find a way to win this November they will be 1-3. RTD.

I'm sorry, but that is just dumb. If we're going to pretend that is truly the definition of rivalry in sports, then every single team is a rival of every single team. Are not both teams in every single contest competing for the same objective and superiority on the field? Winning? Just doesn't make sense.

Griz have one single rivalry. They have the upper hand overall, Cats have the upper hand recently.