Rosenbach

[AZGrizFan]

Cats D is one of the best we have faced. I also liked to see the sweep with Flowers. As the playoffs move along, Montana will need more offense, as this D can run out of gas (EWU). Lots of weapons on this team, hopefully they use it all.

While i agree with your general sentiment, I would suggest the D has gotten "deeper" since the EWU game. We've had Graves, Fouch, Hill, Janacaro, Nuce, Matthews, Kaschmitter, Nelson and a few others pressed into service because of injuries....that time "in the barrel" does nothing but make them better players as we move through the season as they get real-time game-speed action under their belts. Now, having Robertson, Alford, Belknap, Babros, Todd etc., all back and healthy? The D is deeper probably than it's ever been.

And same story could be said for the offense.

 

[putter]

Cats D is one of the best we have faced. I also liked to see the sweep with Flowers. As the playoffs move along, Montana will need more offense, as this D can run out of gas (EWU). Lots of weapons on this team, hopefully they use it all.

While i agree with your general sentiment, I would suggest the D has gotten "deeper" since the EWU game. We've had Graves, Fouch, Hill, Janacaro, Nuce, Matthews, Kaschmitter, Nelson and a few others pressed into service because of injuries....that time "in the barrel" does nothing but make them better players as we move through the season as they get real-time game-speed action under their belts. Now, having Robertson, Alford, Belknap, Babros, Todd etc., all back and healthy? The D is deeper probably than it's ever been.

And same story could be said for the offense.

Solid points. I do agree with that, however, it just makes me nervous to potentially go against JMU and NDSU and only be able to score 7 points on offense. That being said, no reason to think the playoffs could not be full of Washington type of games.

 

[kemajic]

Cats D is one of the best we have faced. I also liked to see the sweep with Flowers. As the playoffs move along, Montana will need more offense, as this D can run out of gas (EWU). Lots of weapons on this team, hopefully they use it all.

While i agree with your general sentiment, I would suggest the D has gotten "deeper" since the EWU game. We've had Graves, Fouch, Hill, Janacaro, Nuce, Matthews, Kaschmitter, Nelson and a few others pressed into service because of injuries....that time "in the barrel" does nothing but make them better players as we move through the season as they get real-time game-speed action under their belts. Now, having Robertson, Alford, Belknap, Babros, Todd etc., all back and healthy? The D is deeper probably than it's ever been.

And same story could be said for the offense.

Robertson is getting stronger every week and he is a difference maker to our D. I have not seen Alford back yet, he's not listed as participating last Saturday. He's important to give Gubner a blow, who may be our most important defender. The 3 front requires a great nose tackle and he's it in spades.

But remember all the dipsticks who insisted our 3-3-5 couldn't stop a good running game?

 

[goatcreekgriz]

As discussed before, the loss of Robertson was huge. The D is much better with him back and gaining strength. He had a nice block on special teams against the Cats, as well.

We should not expect a lot of points out of the offense. The Griz will go as far as defense and special teams will carry them.

And it’s great that UM may get another shot at EWU in Missoula.

 

[reinell30]

Loved to see the second play of the game for a TD, nice call. Now that is where it ended! The offense went right back to the same predictable play calling as the past 10 weeks. Only a couple of wrinkles.
If you are happy with 288 yards of offense, so be it. I am not. Look how many offensive players got banged up because of these calls? Look how many sacks Cam took? Play calling has to benefit the O-Line so they can protect...
We will need much more that that to beat Eastern on the 4th!
Great job defense and special teams!

 

[AZGrizFan]

Loved to see the second play of the game for a TD, nice call. Now that is where it ended! The offense went right back to the same predictable play calling as the past 10 weeks. Only a couple of wrinkles.
If you are happy with 288 yards of offense, so be it. I am not. Look how many offensive players got banged up because of these calls? Look how many sacks Cam took? Play calling has to benefit the O-Line so they can protect...
We will need much more that that to beat Eastern on the 4th!
Great job defense and special teams!

I guess I view it somewhat differently. The Grizzlies had drives that started on the MSU 49, UM 48, MSU 30, MSU 35 and UM 46. That's HALF of their drives. Conversely, MSU's best starting position (outside of the INT on our 31) was THEIR 38 yard line (thank you, Buschini!). You can't penalize a team (by complaining about lack of yards, or offensive production) when they're starting from midfield or better half the game--of COURSE the drives are going to be short and of COURSE the overall production is going to be "down". They had drives of 10, 9, 8, 7, 7, and 6 plays (oh, and a 2-play, 75 yard drive lol). Yeah, I'd like to turn some of those FG's into TD's, but to say the offense "only scored 7 points" (not you Reinell, but people in general) is disingenuous. The offense doesn't get credit for the FG's? Our offense scored 22 points, in my view.

 

[IdaGriz01]

Loved to see the second play of the game for a TD, nice call. Now that is where it ended! The offense went right back to the same predictable play calling as the past 10 weeks. Only a couple of wrinkles.
If you are happy with 288 yards of offense, so be it. I am not. Look how many offensive players got banged up because of these calls? Look how many sacks Cam took? Play calling has to benefit the O-Line so they can protect...
We will need much more that that to beat Eastern on the 4th!
Great job defense and special teams!

I guess I view it somewhat differently. The Grizzlies had drives that started on the MSU 49, UM 48, MSU 30, MSU 35 and UM 46. That's HALF of their drives. Conversely, MSU's best starting position (outside of the INT on our 31) was THEIR 38 yard line (thank you, Buschini!). You can't penalize a team (by complaining about lack of yards, or offensive production) when they're starting from midfield or better half the game--of COURSE the drives are going to be short and of COURSE the overall production is going to be "down". They had drives of 10, 9, 8, 7, 7, and 6 plays (oh, and a 2-play, 75 yard drive lol). Yeah, I'd like to turn some of those FG's into TD's, but to say the offense "only scored 7 points" (not you Reinell, but people in general) is disingenuous. The offense doesn't get credit for the FG's? Our offense scored 22 points, in my view.

Was going to post something along these lines ... about the favorable field position, but screwed it up, so you beat me to it. The kittie punter actually had a pretty good day, averaging nearly 44 yards per punt. But on the flip side, Bergen had 75 yards on four returns... an average of over 18 yards per. So that's a net of 25 on the kick because of short and sometimes very returnable punts mixed in. Yes, the Griz running game was practically non-existent. But we remember a good many "chunk" plays through the air. Did you notice that Humphrey averaged nearly 17 yards per completion? That's pretty damn good. And "good enough" when you have a FG kicker like "Money Macias" . Overall, I'd call it a pretty good game plan.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I guess I view it somewhat differently. The Grizzlies had drives that started on the MSU 49, UM 48, MSU 30, MSU 35 and UM 46. That's HALF of their drives. Conversely, MSU's best starting position (outside of the INT on our 31) was THEIR 38 yard line (thank you, Buschini!). You can't penalize a team (by complaining about lack of yards, or offensive production) when they're starting from midfield or better half the game--of COURSE the drives are going to be short and of COURSE the overall production is going to be "down". They had drives of 10, 9, 8, 7, 7, and 6 plays (oh, and a 2-play, 75 yard drive lol). Yeah, I'd like to turn some of those FG's into TD's, but to say the offense "only scored 7 points" (not you Reinell, but people in general) is disingenuous. The offense doesn't get credit for the FG's? Our offense scored 22 points, in my view.

Was going to post something along these lines ... about the favorable field position, but screwed it up, so you beat me to it. The kittie punter actually had a pretty good day, averaging nearly 44 yards per punt. But on the flip side, Bergen had 75 yards on four returns... an average of over 18 yards per. So that's a net of 25 on the kick because of short and sometimes very returnable punts mixed in. Yes, the Griz running game was practically non-existent. But we remember a good many "chunk" plays through the air. Did you notice that Humphrey averaged nearly 17 yards per completion? That's pretty damn good. And "good enough" when you have a FG kicker like "Money Macias" . Overall, I'd call it a pretty good game plan.

his punts were long, but they were low and VERY returnable....doesn't hurt that Bergen is slippery as hell... :lol: :lol:

 

[Yukon]

Loved to see the second play of the game for a TD, nice call. Now that is where it ended! The offense went right back to the same predictable play calling as the past 10 weeks. Only a couple of wrinkles.
If you are happy with 288 yards of offense, so be it. I am not. Look how many offensive players got banged up because of these calls? Look how many sacks Cam took? Play calling has to benefit the O-Line so they can protect...
We will need much more that that to beat Eastern on the 4th!
Great job defense and special teams!

7pm on the 3rd.

 

[IdaGriz01]

... his punts were long, but they were low and VERY returnable....doesn't hurt that Bergen is slippery as hell... :lol: :lol:

Yep. I swear, several of those punts looked more like passes ... which Bergen was happy to receive and take off, sometimes with a head of steam. :lol:

 

[ordigger]

I wouldn’t call 288 yards of offense consistent or even good. 25% of them on one play that was scripted before the game began, and 75% of those yards in the first half. Truth is those FG’s were mostly set up because of short field situations thanks to special teams and the defense. Play calling was very predictable. I swear we ran up the middle on first down most of the game including the first play.

Go back and watch the game again. Guaranteed if our defense didn’t dominate people would be complaining about that offense which score just 1 touchdown.

Edit: I just looked at the FGs. 6 plays/50 yds, 8/37, 4/12, 4/2, and 9/34. 57 yards of offense in 2nd half!

11 out of 13 possessions were rushes to begin the possession. One of them was a 1 play Cam interception. 13 first downs same as MSU. 51 yards for 1.4 yds per carry, and it goes on and on.

Consistent with previous performances. This team will go as far as the defense and special teams take it.

I don’t know how one can complain about total yards gained, while simultaneously acknowledging that we continually operated with a short field? I mean I get that they didn’t finish many drives in the end zone, but FFS, would you want them to say “nah, we don’t want the ball on MSU’s 35….we’ll back up to our 25 to make it more fair…”

Who’s complaining? I simply stated facts.

However, it sure sounds like your complaining about facts.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I don’t know how one can complain about total yards gained, while simultaneously acknowledging that we continually operated with a short field? I mean I get that they didn’t finish many drives in the end zone, but FFS, would you want them to say “nah, we don’t want the ball on MSU’s 35….we’ll back up to our 25 to make it more fair…”

Who’s complaining? I simply stated facts.

However, it sure sounds like your complaining about facts.

“I wouldn’t call 288 yards of offense great or even good…..” my apologies if that doesn’t qualify as a “complaint”. Sure sounds like one to me. As does most of the rest of the post.

 

[ordigger]

Who’s complaining? I simply stated facts.

However, it sure sounds like your complaining about facts.

“I wouldn’t call 288 yards of offense great or even good…..” my apologies if that doesn’t qualify as a “complaint”. Sure sounds like one to me. As does most of the rest of the post.

Factually it’s not good. You really think Bobby is happy with 52 yards in the 2nd half? A 1.4 yards per rushing attempt? 66 plays for 288 yards? 4 yards per play. Take out the 2nd play which accounted for 25% total yardage and the average per play falls to 3.3 yards per play. The only one I see complaining is you.

 

[kemajic]

“I wouldn’t call 288 yards of offense great or even good…..” my apologies if that doesn’t qualify as a “complaint”. Sure sounds like one to me. As does most of the rest of the post.

Factually it’s not good. You really think Bobby is happy with 52 yards in the 2nd half? A 1.4 yards per rushing attempt? 66 plays for 288 yards? 4 yards per play. Take out the 2nd play which accounted for 25% total yardage and the average per play falls to 3.3 yards per play. The only one I see complaining is you.

PSU had 423 yards of offense, 338 in the air and 4 TDs. They lost by 2 TDs. We had 288 yards of offense, 237 in the air and 2 TDs. We won by 3 TDs. Sounds to me that you would prefer the former. It must be hard to understand that football is about more than offensive yards. I prefer the wins and our defense and special teams are the formula to do that. Go ahead and prefer your offensive yards; the whining about a great and dominant win does not deserve attention.

 

[goatcreekgriz]

The Griz are fun to watch. I think everyone would like a more consistent or better offense, but UM has a good QB who keeps us in games, as well as a defense and special teams that help us win games. Three defensive starters played key roles in blowing up the Cats’ fake field goal attempt for a return TD that sealed the victory. I don’t understand the constant kvetching. What’s not to like? Ws are the objective.

 

[cmtgrizzly]

Our defense is damn good for sure. They can and have win/won us games but teams that when championships are more balanced and can score more than 7-14 points on offense. I think playing through 4 games against playoff level teams our offense is likely to cost a game. Probably before a championship game. Maybe our offense will pick it up. In my opinion they will have to. If they don’t and we win a championship I would have to say that our defense would be likely considered the best of all time at UM.

 

[ordigger]

Factually it’s not good. You really think Bobby is happy with 52 yards in the 2nd half? A 1.4 yards per rushing attempt? 66 plays for 288 yards? 4 yards per play. Take out the 2nd play which accounted for 25% total yardage and the average per play falls to 3.3 yards per play. The only one I see complaining is you.

PSU had 423 yards of offense, 338 in the air and 4 TDs. They lost by 2 TDs. We had 288 yards of offense, 237 in the air and 2 TDs. We won by 3 TDs. Sounds to me that you would prefer the former. It must be hard to understand that football is about more than offensive yards. I prefer the wins and our defense and special teams are the formula to do that. Go ahead and prefer your offensive yards; the whining about a great and dominant win does not deserve attention.

You sure do take a whole lot of assumptions about facts being posted. I have stated no opinion about winning. And if you actually had any sense of reading comprehension you would understand exactly what the facts state, and exactly what I said in my first post.

Of course I prefer winning. You’ve always been a special kind of stupid though. The only one that whines and snivels is you. Grow the eff up!

 

[AZGrizFan]

“I wouldn’t call 288 yards of offense great or even good…..” my apologies if that doesn’t qualify as a “complaint”. Sure sounds like one to me. As does most of the rest of the post.

Factually it’s not good. You really think Bobby is happy with 52 yards in the 2nd half? A 1.4 yards per rushing attempt? 66 plays for 288 yards? 4 yards per play. Take out the 2nd play which accounted for 25% total yardage and the average per play falls to 3.3 yards per play. The only one I see complaining is you.

you keep using that word. I don't think that word means what you think it means.

I think Bobby is happy with the WIN. As am I. Neither he nor I measures success by how may yards they rack up. Once we were up 19-3 he KNEW all he had to do was shorten the game, as MSU's offense a) isn't built to come back from a 3-score deficit and b) wasn't going ANYWHERE against our D. So yeah, I DO think he was happy with the 2nd half, as we outscored them in THAT half 13-7.

You do know we won, yes?

 

[ordigger]

Factually it’s not good. You really think Bobby is happy with 52 yards in the 2nd half? A 1.4 yards per rushing attempt? 66 plays for 288 yards? 4 yards per play. Take out the 2nd play which accounted for 25% total yardage and the average per play falls to 3.3 yards per play. The only one I see complaining is you.

you keep using that word. I don't think that word means what you think it means.

I think Bobby is happy with the WIN. As am I. Neither he nor I measures success by how may yards they rack up. Once we were up 19-3 he KNEW all he had to do was shorten the game, as MSU's offense a) isn't built to come back from a 3-score deficit and b) wasn't going ANYWHERE against our D. So yeah, I DO think he was happy with the 2nd half, as we outscored them in THAT half 13-7.

You do know we won, yes?

I know for a fact that he is not happy about the offense performance. And not happy with the offense’s 2nd half performance either. Sometimes people simply have no clue, and don’t know what they think they know. And yes, of course everyone is happy with the win. You’re stating an opinion, and whining about facts. Lmao

I’m done. When people can’t accept factual truth it’s time to move on.

 

[goatcreekgriz]

My beef tends to be with those who accept non-factual truth.