Robin's Comments

[cclarkblues]

I think you have to question the statistics of any organization with an ax to grind, including the government.

 

[Bear Axed]

You're gonna need to pray soon enough. May wanna start early

You really want to go there again?

after begging me to meet you at the Mo Club again last week and you stood me up again just like the last 6 times, by doing the back door blitz? just like you've done to every other egriz poster that's called your little bluffs?







go back to picking your ass again, it's kind of cute!

 

[Tokyogriz]

I think you have to question the statistics of any organization with an ax to grind, including the government.

Always take any statistics with a grain of salt. Many groups on all sides (left/right/outer space) use small sample sizes, use populations to sample that will give the most favorable outcome they want to sample, and often skew or outright fudge numbers. How questions are asked and how they are interpreted by the sample takers is also very important. Many people looking to prove or find something ask leading questions then assume that any answer they get confirms their own desired results.

 

[EverettGriz]

Still >

Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted.
Here's the math. According to the U.S. Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey --there is an average of 207,754 victims (age 12 or older) of rape and sexual assault each year.

There are 525,600 minutes in a non-leap year. That makes 31,536,000 seconds/year. So, 31,536,000 divided by 207,754 comes out to 1 sexual assault every 152 seconds, or about 1 every 2 minutes.

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We didn't know that you were that active. You must really get around. Must be remnants from your alter-boy days.

Geez already. Can someone please send this ()*&#$ to the same place as the dinosaur, the dodo bird, cats2506 and other extinct animals?

 

[grizonbob]

Note that Donaldson has not been convicted of or plead to anything. It's not over till it's over. There may still be some good news/result for him.

Unfortunately, the woman will be a rape victim for the rest of her life, no matter how clever his lawyers may be.

Given some of the stats that claim that 20% and 25% of college age women have been raped, or will be raped in college, she'll have a lot of company.

I"m not going to comment on any of the individual cases in which players have been accused of rape. We'll let the system sort out the facts. Certainly, if this did happen, it would be a devastating thing for the women involved.

I do want to say that I don't think it doesn't help to exaggerate the extent of the problem. A quarter of the nation's coeds aren't being raped. Really, does that even pass the common sense test? Do you think that one in every four girls in each dorm is being raped? Don't you think their parents would be marching on Main Hall, ready to knock down the president's door, if that were the case?

Christina Hoff Sommers has written about the flaws in these "studies" extensively, and explains there aren't anywhere near that many rapes on college campuses. http://www.aei.org/article/society-and-culture/race-and-gender/in-making-campuses-safe-for-women-a-travesty-of-justice-for-men/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So why be concerned about such things? It is the old Chicken Little problem. When you have folks making exaggerated claims, and people catch on to it, they stop paying attention to the problem, believing that what they're being told is all bogus. Sort of like the days of Reefer Madness. (Let me make it clear -- I'm not denying there is a problem. Obviously there is to some degree. I'm just saying that it doesn't help to say that a quarter of all coeds are being raped)

Sommers points to a Justice Department study as one of the main culprits, in which college women were asked about their sexual experiences, on campus and off. She notes that the researchers—not the women themselves—decided whether they had been assaulted.

She says: "The researchers employed an expansive definition of sexual assault that included "forced kissing" and even "attempted" forced kissing. The survey also asked subjects if they had sexual contact with someone when they were unable to give consent because they were drunk. A "yes" answer was automatically counted as a rape or assault. According to the authors, "an intoxicated person cannot legally consent to sexual contact." Surely, reasonable people can disagree on that: If sexual intimacy under the influence of alcohol is by definition assault, then a significant percentage of sexual intercourse throughout the world and down the ages qualifies as crime. The Justice Department stamped a disclaimer on every page of the survey report, advising that it is not a publication of the Justice Department and does not necessarily reflect its positions or policies. Ali, however, treats it as an official government finding and ignores the controversies and ambiguities surrounding her "one in five" figure."

As Sommers notes, there are other, better studies, that peg the rape rates at much lower numbers. One 2003 federal study found six rapes or sexual assaults per 1000 on campuses. Still too many -- but that seems like a lot more plausible level.