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ROBIN PFLUGRAD info...

There are two approaches to college coaching.

1) Be placebound ala Diest. The knock on you? Where can he recruit? What other experience has he had?
2) Be careerbound. The knock on you? Why does he keep moving?

Just be supportive and positive. Focus on strengths (wins, offensive production) and objective weaknesses (wins, offensive production, etc)

Innuendo is for Jr High girls
 
pokeaggiegrizz said:
There are two approaches to college coaching.

1) Be placebound ala Diest. The knock on you? Where can he recruit? What other experience has he had?
2) Be careerbound. The knock on you? Why does he keep moving?

Just be supportive and positive. Focus on strengths (wins, offensive production) and objective weaknesses (wins, offensive production, etc)

Innuendo is for Jr High girls
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As I said in another post, Van Diest was able to recruit quite well outside of MT and that was for NAIA Carroll College. He was able to get some amazing recruits because they pretty much KNEW they would play for a championship team. Look at Patrick Crayton for the Cowboys... CC beat his team's ass in the chipper back in 04 (NWOSU) and he's a top player now. Im sure a lot of these kids think they can take the same route.

As for other experience MVD has had, he played for the Griz in the 70's, then coached for them, Wyoming, UMass and Northwestern. Then he moved back home and took the HC job at Carroll 10 years ago and within a year won a conference champ and built that program up to what it is now. He is very intelligent and I think we need to get back to our defensive roots with a DC as the head coach. Plus he'll probably bring Nick Howlett with him who produced a 2-time NAIA POY in Tyler Emmert (who is also on staff). Don't discount MVD just because he coaches at the NAIA level. He was a finalist for the Cats HC job and backed out. I'd be willing to bet it was a move to let Carroll know he's looking around and knew the Griz job would be open within a few years and of course he wants to coach here over MSU.
 
I agree, I like Van Diest a lot. I am a Saints fan too. I think he would be absolutely great. I also think Plugard would be absolutely great. I hate to see Hauk go, but we are in such a good position-we don't have to chase excellent candidates with out hat in hand-they come to us.
 
Pflugrad would make an excellent OC. Not sure on head coach, as many recall he interviewed when Bobby did back in 2002/2003 and his interview went really poorly. I'm sure he's learned a ton since then, but I'd think a guy like him would be perfectly suited to run an offense, but I'm really not sure on an entire team.
 
Re/MaxGriz said:
Pflugrad would make an excellent OC. Not sure on head coach, as many recall he interviewed when Bobby did back in 2002/2003 and his interview went really poorly. I'm sure he's learned a ton since then, but I'd think a guy like him would be perfectly suited to run an offense, but I'm really not sure on an entire team.
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Be careful of anyone who recruited talent to Washington State in the last 10 years. The Cougars have been seriously gutted of quality talent in that span and it is laughable to consider them part of the Pac-10. Ask any objective Cougar fan - the lack of quality talent in Pullman has directly led to the program's lowly state.

Pflugrad, no thanks.
 
2 points to make.

1. He was one of the instrumental "cogs" in Don Read's offense. Don has stated this on many occasions. In fact, he was running more of the offense than Dennehy was when Dennehy was the OC.

2. His interview did go poorly when he interviewed the last time. However, this was also right in the middle of the Mike Price to Alabama disaster, where he didn't know if he had a job at WSU, etc. was going on. Not saying he didn't blow the interview. Just pointing out that this was a pretty hectic time. And if I am not mistaken, I think he was the first interview right out of the shoot.
 
grizpack said:
2 points to make.

1. He was one of the instrumental "cogs" in Don Read's offense. Don has stated this on many occasions. In fact, he was running more of the offense than Dennehy was when Dennehy was the OC.

2. His interview did go poorly when he interviewed the last time. However, this was also right in the middle of the Mike Price to Alabama disaster, where he didn't know if he had a job at WSU, etc. was going on. Not saying he didn't blow the interview. Just pointing out that this was a pretty hectic time. And if I am not mistaken, I think he was the first interview right out of the shoot.
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The stories about why Pflu bombed in his last Montana HC interview aren't too assuring. Don't know if they were true, though.
Hogan's explanation at the time for hiring Hauck, beyond singing the praises of Hauck's coaching abilities, was that Hauck was ready to go. He already had his coaching team penciled in. The other candidates did not.
Can't really tell if O'Day will be looking for the same from his first football coaching hire or not.
If I was looking at Pflugrad, I'd be asking other coaches who have worked with Robin why he hasn't made the jump to head coach or coordinator at the schools where he's been employed, NAU excluded. He's been in the game for 20 years. It's a fair question.

I know he's been considered a recruiting specialist at his last two stops. How have his recruits done since landing on campus? They all look pretty good on the star chart everyone uses. I guess my question would be how have they done off the field? Did they graduate? did they transfer out. Did they stay out of trouble? That last question should be posed to every candidate given the importance of APR and the attention the Montana media pay to Griz football.
Also, who would be Robin's OC. I remember Bob Cole not being given much attention as a candidate in 2002 because he planned to be HC and OC, which Hogan said wasn't a good idea.
 
deputygrizbro said:
Everyone who has a problem with the Griz's offense they need to look at the OC. Phenicie blows!!! My buddy's name on here is "Ihaterobphenicie" and it's for a reason!!!
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deputy you are right but Bobby was the mans boss and DID NOTHING about it ergo Bobby is to blame. Your buddies name should be IhateRobandBOB,
 
Bob Cole was an amazing OC and mind but would NOT have made a good HC. If you have every met him you would agree.

Good questions about Pflugrads recruits in terms of academics, transfers, ect. It's a little different to compare Pac-10 kids with kids that UM will recruit. I do bet that Robin is much more prepared for the interview this time.
 
I have posted this in other threads so sorry for those who've read it already. I was thinking Pflugrad would be the right choice but the more research I've done the more I'd like to see Doeren if we could get him. I think the ideal situation would be Doeren HC and Pflugrad as OC. Probably wishful thinking but I think that would provide some stability on offense and new philosophy on D. It would also expand recruiting in both directions.

:twocents:
 
Kodiak said:
Bob Cole was an amazing OC and mind but would NOT have made a good HC. If you have every met him you would agree.

Good questions about Pflugrads recruits in terms of academics, transfers, ect. It's a little different to compare Pac-10 kids with kids that UM will recruit. I do bet that Robin is much more prepared for the interview this time.
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I'm not sure Cole would have made a great HC. He's a great OC. I'm not comparing Pac 10 talent to to FCS talent. I do think academics and character are issues that transcend levels of skill and speak to a recruiter's comfort level with risk in those areas. Everyone has an Andy Roof or two in their background, but exactly how many? And how many of those risks were managed well on campus and turned out to be great success stories for both the school and the athlete? I guess that's what I'm getting at.
 
Maybe if Doeren is his own DC, that will free up some more money to throw at Pflugrad to convince him to stay as OC. Assistant pay is pretty crappy at UM though.
 
That would be a dream scenario.

VanDiest, Pflugard, Pease, Doeren-I will be jacked about any of them.

Quality guys, great football minds. Each brings something different to the table.

I just hope we can hang on to our great assistants (and players) for consistency-and we'll be good.

Ok, we'll we'll lose Phenecie, Gregorack and Daste for sure...

But hopefully the new coach will be smart enough to try to keep Gerber, Delaney, Houk and Paulson for consistency, and will make a concerted effort to keep Germer. I liked Germer at UWyoming, and was glad he went back to UM. Germer doesn't want back in the MWC does he? At UNLV of all places? Hope he stays too.

We need consistency. Nothing is wrong with the direction and performance of this team. We are behind in recruiting and an all new coaching staff won't help.
 
1986cat said:
Re/MaxGriz said:
Pflugrad would make an excellent OC. Not sure on head coach, as many recall he interviewed when Bobby did back in 2002/2003 and his interview went really poorly. I'm sure he's learned a ton since then, but I'd think a guy like him would be perfectly suited to run an offense, but I'm really not sure on an entire team.
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Be careful of anyone who recruited talent to Washington State in the last 10 years. The Cougars have been seriously gutted of quality talent in that span and it is laughable to consider them part of the Pac-10. Ask any objective Cougar fan - the lack of quality talent in Pullman has directly led to the program's lowly state.

Pflugrad, no thanks.
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I have heard from a few 'Cougs now who fault Pflugrad for overpursuing talent WSU rarely gets at the expense of Washington state athletes who, for lack of interest from Wazzu, opted to play elsewhere. Some of talent brought in also turned into off field trouble. They say we can do better.

I don't know what to make of that. The 'Cougs are in about as bad a spot as a football team can be in right now. Their conference opponents are so far ahead of them talent wise, Wazzu will need a miracle just to fininsh in the middle of the Pac. Fingers are bound to start pointing when things are that terrible. Robin could just be a scapegoat.
 
grizaremoregooder said:
Pflugrad has never been a head coach? That scares the hell out of me-they should go after someone who actually has been successfull as a HEAD COACH. Their is a big difference between being a receivers coach and a head coach. I think the guy from Central Washington, or Van Diest would be a more secure hire than someone who has never held the head job. I hope they don't hire this guy based on him being a "good wide receivers coach".
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@mthoopsfan
 
Now everyone can see how clueless Hoops is. He claims no one was concerned about Pflu’s lack of experience when hired. This thread proves that is wrong.
 
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