Rob Ash and the MSU Bobcats

[wbtfg]

I don't think he gave 2 shits what a walk on backup long snapper with an over inflated sense of self thought.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I don't think he gave 2 shits what a walk on backup long snapper with an over inflated sense of self thought.

That's his problem. As kids continue to grow up more and more coddled, coaches need to adapt and learn how to appeal to the new generation. Publicly shaming the ethics of an 18-year-old is not the best start. Not too many kids are going to view that as a positive thing about the program.

 

[wbtfg]

I don't think you're giving 18 year olds enough credit. I still think a coach's job is to help boys become men, not continue to coddle. If you disagree with that, that's okay it's just a difference in philosophy. That said, I would much rather have my son play for the former rather than the latter

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I don't think you're giving 18 year olds enough credit. I still think a coach's job is to help boys become men, not continue to coddle. If you disagree with that, that's okay it's just a difference in philosophy. That said, I would much rather have my son play for the former rather than the latter

Definitely agree that they shouldn't continue to coddle. They also shouldn't do what Ron does. If someone can't see how making such comments is bad for business, then there really isn't much point in trying to explain it. :thumb:

 

[wbtfg]

He said players and coaches should stick to their commitments. I guess I don't see you what's so controversial about that. If anything, it tells me that if he commits to me then that is rock solid, rather than dropping me for a better offer down the road.

 

[garizzalies]

So if you say something enough it will eventually be true, right?

That's the magic of egriz!

Also attracting fans of other teams who actually try to say their coach doesn't trash players to the media. OTHER CAT PLAYERS have confirmed it. Oh, but I'll take Nooseboy's word for it since he's always been so credible, haha!

And your sources? For being a die hard griz and even greater hater of the Bobcats you sure seem to kick a shit ton of knowledge about them. So, either you are a hard core closet bobcat fan (you definitely have some deep-seeded daddy-issue shit going on with Ash...I feel like he touched you in the closet during family Christmas or something), or you are just full of shit. Neither would surprise me to be honest.

So you would not be surprised if your coach molested some boy in a closet during a family function? Creepy.



What happened to Bleskin anyway? Did he get a commitment speech?

 

[Hammer]

He said players and coaches should stick to their commitments. I guess I don't see you what's so controversial about that. If anything, it tells me that if he commits to me then that is rock solid, rather than dropping me for a better offer down the road.

Ron didn't have a problem with Brekke's commitment (or lack of) to UM when he told Brekke after he had committed to UM that UM was likely going to face a playoff ban from the NCAA. The guy is a cvnt, plain and simple. A hypocritical cvnt at that!

 

[KoolMoeDee]

Imagine the turnaround in coaching if all it took was 1 player not liking you to get fired.

His contract ends next June. He hasn't gotten this close to the end of his contract without an extension since he was hired. There are probably things he needs to accomplish before he is renewed or he retires. It's pretty easy to figure out what those are.

 

[garizzalies]

Thanks for finding this quote that everyone has been talking about. I do remember this one now. I see nothing wrong with it. I mean, he turned the F'ing ball over 6 F'ing times for God's sake. What in the hell is Ash supposed to say? Sure he could have done the coach speak thing and said, it's all my fault because I didn't have Jake prepared, blah blah blah, but we all know that is bullshit. He had just kicked ass the prior game and played excellent, beat a good ISU team. He had a terrible game where everything just went wrong for him, and yes your D played excellent and had a lot to do with that. All the Ash bashes are looking for something that isn't there, but that's ok, we're all entitled to our own opinions. :thumb:

This post sounds just like a fart I had last week--it was kind of long and drawn-out and had the same squeaky/whiny tone. Come to think of it, everything that comes out of Ron's, or his apologist's, mouth sounds the same way.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

He said players and coaches should stick to their commitments. I guess I don't see you what's so controversial about that. If anything, it tells me that if he commits to me then that is rock solid, rather than dropping me for a better offer down the road.

To me, it shows a whiny, hypocritical attitude toward kids making big decisions. Not the guy I would want to sign with. Nowadays, coaches have to me more player-oriented than ever. His attitude will continue to hurt MSU recruiting as time goes by.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Imagine the turnaround in coaching if all it took was 1 player not liking you to get fired.

His contract ends next June. He hasn't gotten this close to the end of his contract without an extension since he was hired. There are probably things he needs to accomplish before he is renewed or he retires. It's pretty easy to figure out what those are.

That's a really good point. It could be that he knows he's on his way out, so he is going to say the things he wants to say without regard for the effect on the program. That actually makes some sense, because I can't imagine someone who wants to be somewhere long term being so dumb about what he says.

 

[KoolMoeDee]

No. I don't think that's it. Please keep going though. You are a master at what you do.

 

[wbtfg]

He said players and coaches should stick to their commitments. I guess I don't see you what's so controversial about that. If anything, it tells me that if he commits to me then that is rock solid, rather than dropping me for a better offer down the road.

To me, it shows a whiny, hypocritical attitude toward kids making big decisions. Not the guy I would want to sign with. Nowadays, coaches have to me more player-oriented than ever. His attitude will continue to hurt MSU recruiting as time goes by.

So your argument has gone from Ash continually calls out is players in public to Ash once made a statement saying players and coaches should honor their commitments, and I think that's hypocritical


Got it.....

 

[CDAGRIZ]

He said players and coaches should stick to their commitments. I guess I don't see you what's so controversial about that. If anything, it tells me that if he commits to me then that is rock solid, rather than dropping me for a better offer down the road.

To me, it shows a whiny, hypocritical attitude toward kids making big decisions. Not the guy I would want to sign with. Nowadays, coaches have to me more player-oriented than ever. His attitude will continue to hurt MSU recruiting as time goes by.

So your argument has gone from Ash continually calls out is players in public to Ash once made a statement saying players and coaches should honor their commitments, and I think that's hypocritical


Got it.....

No the facts (not argument) are that Ash publicly calls out his players, AND that he IS a whiny hypocrite. Not that difficult to grasp. I'm sorry that it's true, I really am, but you really can't deny this one. Sorry.

 

[wbtfg]

He said players and coaches should stick to their commitments. I guess I don't see you what's so controversial about that. If anything, it tells me that if he commits to me then that is rock solid, rather than dropping me for a better offer down the road.

To me, it shows a whiny, hypocritical attitude toward kids making big decisions. Not the guy I would want to sign with. Nowadays, coaches have to me more player-oriented than ever. His attitude will continue to hurt MSU recruiting as time goes by.

So your argument has gone from Ash continually calls out is players in public to Ash once made a statement saying players and coaches should honor their commitments, and I think that's hypocritical


Got it.....

No the facts (not argument) are that Ash publicly calls out his players, AND that he IS a whiny hypocrite. Not that difficult to grasp. I'm sorry that it's true, I really am, but you really can't deny this one. Sorry.

But you just can't seem to find any links that support your facts.....got it.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

But you just can't seem to find any links that support your facts.....got it.

Didn't I just provide two that support these facts? Are you OK? Because the next step is you looking kinda dumb.

 

[wbtfg]

But you just can't seem to find any links that support your facts.....got it.

Didn't I just provide two that support these facts? Are you OK? Because the next step is you looking kinda dumb.

I saw you posted two links from other egriz threads. Was there more?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

But you just can't seem to find any links that support your facts.....got it.

Didn't I just provide two that support these facts? Are you OK? Because the next step is you looking kinda dumb.

I saw you posted two links from other egriz threads. Was there more?

One was a quote from Ron Ash (whiny hypocrite), and the other was a post from a player (Ron puts himself first at the expense of his players). Both support the facts. Sorry this is so hard for you!

 

[wbtfg]

Neither of those quotes support the argument that Ash publicly calls his players out in the media

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Neither of those quotes support the argument that Ash publicly calls his players out in the media

Is Brekke a player? Sorry if not, I'm not up to date on the current roster. He basically called Brekke a dishonorable dude. To the, gasp, MEDIA!