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Riley Wilson - AZ - "Is going to be a household name in Tucson by end of the season", say his coach

Skookum-Jim said:
I said specifically that Wilson's production would likely go down if the defense improved as a whole.
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No, dude, you are making shit up again. Just like how you pathetically pretended to be a Griz fan for about 20 years only to crash out when the bubz had their greatest season during that time but got smashed again for the umpteenth time by the buffaloes. Does it bother you that the Grizzlies can beat the buffs but bubz never will?

You did not “specifically” say that Wilson's production would go down. In fact you said the exact opposite—that it “usually goes up”.

Cripes on a biscuit, I know you can’t backup the trash you spew, but can you really not even remember it or go back and read it, so that you don’t get is completely wrong?

😂 “Specifically”. Sure buddy. Whatever you say 😆
 
garizzalies said:
No, dude, you are making shit up again. Just like how you pathetically pretended to be a Griz fan for about 20 years only to crash out when the bubz had their greatest season during that time but got smashed again for the umpteenth time by the buffaloes. Does it bother you that the Grizzlies can beat the buffs but bubz never will?

You did not “specifically” say that Wilson's production would go down. In fact you said the exact opposite—that it “usually goes up”.

Cripes on a biscuit, I know you can’t backup the trash you spew, but can you really not even remember it or go back and read it, so that you don’t get is completely wrong?

😂 “Specifically”. Sure buddy. Whatever you say 😆
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Gawd pull the string on your back and repeat.

Here is what I said.
quote; A really good player's defensive production usually goes up when the team defense isn't good.

Can you read? A good defensive player's stats usually go up in a bad defense. Ok Kids!

Hence my proposed bet. Peyton Wings numbers will likely go down in a better defense. Duh! You're too much of a coward to take my bet.

Oh and I'm still the griz fan I',e always been.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
Gawd pull the string on your back and repeat.

Here is what I said.
quote; A really good player's defensive production usually goes up when the team defense isn't good.

Can you read? A good defensive player's stats usually go up in a bad defense. Ok Kids!

Hence my proposed bet. Peyton Wings numbers will likely go down in a better defense. Duh! You're too much of a coward to take my bet.

Oh and I'm still the griz fan I',e always been.
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Thanks for proving my point and admitting you were wrong and tried to flip-flop and make stuff up as you always do.
Why would I bet something that you admittedly never said? It’s nonsense. You would just claim the opposite again. Like how you claim to be a Griz fan which you have never been in your entire, pathetic existence. What’s next, are you going to profess your love for Bobby? You obviously have a crush on him, why not just admit it?
 
The falacy with the “better” argument is it’s being based solely off tackles. That is not all defenders do. On a poor defense, your best players tackle production will go up and their sacks/tfl/pd/int numbers will generally go down cus they have no support. On a good defense, the tackle numbers will be split more evenly and your better players will have more opportunities to record sacks/tfl’s/int’s/pd’s because other good players are taking up blockers/putting pressure on QB’s.
 
garizzalies said:
Thanks for proving my point and admitting you were wrong and tried to flip-flop and make stuff up as you always do.
Why would I bet something that you admittedly never said? It’s nonsense. You would just claim the opposite again. Like how you claim to be a Griz fan which you have never been in your entire, pathetic existence. What’s next, are you going to profess your love for Bobby? You obviously have a crush on him, why not just admit it?
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Gawd either you're a shameless liar or your reading comprehension is less than a first grader
I suspect it's both.
 
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alabamagrizzly said:
Correct, which allowed Riley to be more productive. Gub’s presence did not make Riley a better athlete, as Hike would have us think.
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Actually, what I said you just agreed with.
Funny shit here. I'm guessing every coach in America would disagree with you. Great players make other players great.
 
HikeGlacier said:
Actually, what I said you just agreed with.
Funny shit here. I'm guessing every coach in America would disagree with you. Great players make other players great.
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HikeGlacier said:
No coach in the history of UM would take either of those two over Biermann.
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Of course not. One was a DB and the other a LB but each were far more talented and better players for Montana than Biermann. Kroy was a stud but the other 2 were elite talents and why they both made the NFL
 
Skookum-Jim said:
How about this dipshit? Peyton Wing had 93 tackles last year in the PSU defense. How about we bet $1000 on his tackle production this year? I say he will not exceed that in this years griz defense. Is it a bet or do you not really believe your own hot air?
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Why would this be the bet? That's not the situation, from what you said that caused the discussion and disagreement. This is what you said:

"A really good player's defensive production usually goes up when the team defense isn't good." That has nothing to do with Wing's production last season on a bad team. You would need to measure what happened to his stats if he went from a good D to a bad D.

And, with Wilson, I assume part of the production discussion involved sacks and TFL's, not tackles.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
So you are saying that if a player had 100 tackles on a bad defense and only 75 the following year on a good defense is different that a player having 75 tackles on a good defense and then having 100 tackles the following year on a bad defense? Statistically speaking?
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I am saying that to judge players on how they perform when going from a good D to a bad D, on the same team, you would need to make that measurement. I actually don't understand what you just said. It made no sense to me. And, that isn't and hasn't been the discussion. You need to compare apples to apples. You really never played the game at any good level, did you? That's coming out in your recent posts.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
Geezus dude are you for real? I said specifically that Wilson's production would likely go down if the defense improved as a whole. How is this hard to understand? I know you're stupid but c’mon man this is very straightforward even for a moron. If the defense improves, Wilson’s numbers will likely go down. Duh!
A couple of reasons for your pea brain to ponder.
In a weaker defense, the defense will play more plays due to poor third down efficiency. Good players will rack up tackles because other players don’t make plays. The defense will be playing from behind in many cases, leading to more tackles. Is this not intuitive to everyone but you?
A prime example for you. Shaun Dolac played for the Buffalo Bulls in 2023 and 2024. The Bulls defense was statistically way better in 2023 than it was in 2024. However, Shaun's production went way up in 2024 by 68 tackles as the defense regressed.
Obviously you don’t believe the crap you're saying, or you’d take my bet. But keep on twisting your logic in circles and making yourself look like the fool you are.
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Just for the record, this is what you said: "A really good player's defensive production usually goes up when the team defense isn't good."

I don't recall you ever saying this, except in your last post: "I said specifically that Wilson's production would likely go down if the defense improved as a whole." I had focused on and been discussing your quote above about players in general.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
The falacy with the “better” argument is it’s being based solely off tackles. That is not all defenders do. On a poor defense, your best players tackle production will go up and their sacks/tfl/pd/int numbers will generally go down cus they have no support. On a good defense, the tackle numbers will be split more evenly and your better players will have more opportunities to record sacks/tfl’s/int’s/pd’s because other good players are taking up blockers/putting pressure on QB’s.
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This is my general view too. Alabama, you are smarter than you look. Ha. I bet you look good too.
 
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