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Riley Wilson - AZ - "Is going to be a household name in Tucson by end of the season", say his coach

garizzalies said:
Usually? Really? So it should be easy for you to give multiple examples of an individual’s D stats increasing while the team D stats decrease during the same two year span?
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It happens all the time dipstick. Look at any mediocre defense that has a really good lb or nickel. Especially in a 3-3-5. You obviously don't know much about defensive schemes.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
It happens all the time dipstick. Look at any mediocre defense that has a really good lb or nickel. Especially in a 3-3-5. You obviously don't know much about defensive schemes.
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Oh really, it happens all the time?
It’s so common that you can’t even name one example?
Dude, you’re terrible at this. Why must bubcats constantly talk out of their ass?
 
garizzalies said:
Oh really, it happens all the time?
It’s so common that you can’t even name one example?
Dude, you’re terrible at this. Why must bubcats constantly talk out of their ass?
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Oh please do you really want me to go and name the best players on a bunch of bad defenses to prove my point? Is this really something you're going to try to defend?
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
Well, based on past seasons, you could probably say Peyton Wing and Elijah Tolbert.
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What’s your evidence that they improved when going from a good team to a bad team? Maybe they would be more improved going to a good team. The question isn’t whether a player can be good and productive on a bad team. PSU didn’t go from good to bad in one year.
 
mthoopsfan said:
What’s your evidence that they improved when going from a good team to a bad team? Maybe they would be more improved going to a good team. The question isn’t whether a player can be good and productive on a bad team. PSU didn’t go from good to bad in one year.
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WTF are you talking about. This is the initial comment I was referencing which is different from what you are implying.
Skookum-Jim said:
A really good player's defensive production usually goes up when the team defense isn't good.
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Wing and Tolbert were really good players on poor defensive teams. We will see how things go on a better defensive team.
 
garizzalies said:
Oh really, it happens all the time?
It’s so common that you can’t even name one example?
Dude, you’re terrible at this. Why must bubcats constantly talk out of their ass?
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How about this dipshit? Peyton Wing had 93 tackles last year in the PSU defense. How about we bet $1000 on his tackle production this year? I say he will not exceed that in this years griz defense. Is it a bet or do you not really believe your own hot air?
 
Skookum-Jim said:
Oh please do you really want me to go and name the best players on a bunch of bad defenses to prove my point? Is this really something you're going to try to defend?
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You’re the big mouth who claimed it is “usual” and “happens all the time”. Should be easy to back up your garbage, right?

And no, simply naming the best player on a bad D is not at all what you claimed. You have to show both went in opposite directions over 2 years.

god o’ mighty, already trying to move those short goal posts of yours. BTW, is that why you guys have short goal posts—so you can move them inside your short field?
 
Skookum-Jim said:
How about this dipshit? Peyton Wing had 93 tackles last year in the PSU defense. How about we bet $1000 on his tackle production this year? I say he will not exceed that in this years griz defense. Is it a bet or do you not really believe your own hot air?
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That’s not at all what you said. In fact, you said the exact opposite in the context of Wilson’s stats going down with a good D to a not so good D, not a bad D to a better D. Good grief man, you bubz are so full of shit that you can’t even remember your own bloviating from one day to the next
 
garizzalies said:
That’s not at all what you said. In fact, you said the exact opposite in the context of Wilson’s stats going down with a good D to a not so good D, not a bad D to a better D. Good grief man, you bubz are so full of shit that you can’t even remember your own bloviating from one day to the next
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Geezus dude are you for real? I said specifically that Wilson's production would likely go down if the defense improved as a whole. How is this hard to understand? I know you're stupid but c’mon man this is very straightforward even for a moron. If the defense improves, Wilson’s numbers will likely go down. Duh!
A couple of reasons for your pea brain to ponder.
In a weaker defense, the defense will play more plays due to poor third down efficiency. Good players will rack up tackles because other players don’t make plays. The defense will be playing from behind in many cases, leading to more tackles. Is this not intuitive to everyone but you?
A prime example for you. Shaun Dolac played for the Buffalo Bulls in 2023 and 2024. The Bulls defense was statistically way better in 2023 than it was in 2024. However, Shaun's production went way up in 2024 by 68 tackles as the defense regressed.
Obviously you don’t believe the crap you're saying, or you’d take my bet. But keep on twisting your logic in circles and making yourself look like the fool you are.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
WTF are you talking about. This is the initial comment I was referencing which is different from what you are implying.


Wing and Tolbert were really good players on poor defensive teams. We will see how things go on a better defensive team.
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I know what comment you were addressing, and the comment was dead wrong and I had already said that about the comment. I was addressing your comment, which essentially said, productive players on bad teams show that that Skookum was right. He wasn't right. And your comments about out the 2 players didn't even address Skookum's point. To shed light on Skookum's post, you would need to cite a player on a good team getting better stats when his team got bad. I don't think that's true, but what you provided didn't even address the point, let alone prove anything.

You just got caught making football mistakes, and now you will just keep digging your hole as you try to weasel out of your comment. That is your mode of operation at times.
 
mthoopsfan said:
No, it would not. You obviously never played football at a high level. You are making dumb comments.
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So you are saying that if a player had 100 tackles on a bad defense and only 75 the following year on a good defense is different that a player having 75 tackles on a good defense and then having 100 tackles the following year on a bad defense? Statistically speaking?
 
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