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[#15 Fan]

Huh?

Since this is more than 300 days past citation, without a speedy trial waiver there might not be a charge pending. Given the number of experienced litigators who left when this attorney with not one trial under her belt was elected, I can see this deadline getting blown. Maybe even let to slide ala Hunter Biden's prosecutors. Maybe Garizzlies can stick his nose in the Court file on his next trip to Blowsman and let us know if the prosecutor(s) is competent.

First of all, the charges are pending in CITY court, not JUSTICE court. Thus, it's the city prosecutors handling the case, not the Gallatin Co Atty's Office, who had their mass exodus. Secondly, no prosecutor would let this matter go beyond the 200 days UNLESS the defense agrees to waive speedy trial. The fact that this keeps getting continued means the defense had to agree to waive speedy trial, which based on how that shithole University has handled this mess, they're going to keep him around for the season and then he'll probably plead guilty and get shit-canned. With the influx of cases coming into prosecutor offices across the state, no prosecutor is going to petition against waiving speedy trial.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Since this is more than 300 days past citation, without a speedy trial waiver there might not be a charge pending. Given the number of experienced litigators who left when this attorney with not one trial under her belt was elected, I can see this deadline getting blown. Maybe even let to slide ala Hunter Biden's prosecutors. Maybe Garizzlies can stick his nose in the Court file on his next trip to Blowsman and let us know if the prosecutor(s) is competent.

First of all, the charges are pending in CITY court, not JUSTICE court. Thus, it's the city prosecutors handling the case, not the Gallatin Co Atty's Office, who had their mass exodus. Secondly, no prosecutor would let this matter go beyond the 200 days UNLESS the defense agrees to waive speedy trial. The fact that this keeps getting continued means the defense had to agree to waive speedy trial, which based on how that shithole University has handled this mess, they're going to keep him around for the season and then he'll probably plead guilty and get shit-canned. With the influx of cases coming into prosecutor offices across the state, no prosecutor is going to petition against waiving speedy trial.

Interesting. Where did you get this info? I know the OC entered his plea in Justice Court.
https://www.kbzk.com/news/crime-cou...uilty-to-all-charges-including-aggravated-dui

 

[mthoopsfan]

Since this is more than 300 days past citation, without a speedy trial waiver there might not be a charge pending. Given the number of experienced litigators who left when this attorney with not one trial under her belt was elected, I can see this deadline getting blown. Maybe even let to slide ala Hunter Biden's prosecutors. Maybe Garizzlies can stick his nose in the Court file on his next trip to Blowsman and let us know if the prosecutor(s) is competent.

First of all, the charges are pending in CITY court, not JUSTICE court. Thus, it's the city prosecutors handling the case, not the Gallatin Co Atty's Office, who had their mass exodus. Secondly, no prosecutor would let this matter go beyond the 200 days UNLESS the defense agrees to waive speedy trial. The fact that this keeps getting continued means the defense had to agree to waive speedy trial, which based on how that poop University has handled this mess, they're going to keep him around for the season and then he'll probably plead guilty and get poop. With the influx of cases coming into prosecutor offices across the state, no prosecutor is going to petition against waiving speedy trial.

Thanks for informing us.

 

[EverettGriz]

How terrible and frustrating it must be for bub fans. While they should be looking forward to what could be a successful season, they have this disgraceful situation to worry about. I cannot believe more of them haven't stormed Waded's office demanding reasonable answers. I know I sure would be.

 

[BigGameBobby]

Everett, you’re so right, it’s really hard being a Bobcat fan right now. We are losing at everything and getting dominated by our rival in every measurable way.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Everett, you’re so right, it’s really hard being a Bobcat fan right now. We are losing at everything and getting dominated by our rival in every measurable way.

Not in giving raises to coaches with criminal charges pending. You guys might be the only CFB program in modern history to do that. You absolutely dominate every other program at it.

 

[BigGameBobby]

Everett, you’re so right, it’s really hard being a Bobcat fan right now. We are losing at everything and getting dominated by our rival in every measurable way.

 

[EverettGriz]

Everett, you’re so right, it’s really hard being a Bobcat fan right now. We are losing at everything and getting dominated by our rival in every measurable way.

You can say THAT again!! (what a fucking moron)



Yeah, congrats. You're winning a few games with coaches so toxic they'll never get another job. You must be so proud. What a great time to be a bub, huh?

 

[ordigger]

Sorry, I see now that you were stating I was correct.

All good!

Agreed. Thanks!

 

[#15 Fan]

First of all, the charges are pending in CITY court, not JUSTICE court. Thus, it's the city prosecutors handling the case, not the Gallatin Co Atty's Office, who had their mass exodus. Secondly, no prosecutor would let this matter go beyond the 200 days UNLESS the defense agrees to waive speedy trial. The fact that this keeps getting continued means the defense had to agree to waive speedy trial, which based on how that shithole University has handled this mess, they're going to keep him around for the season and then he'll probably plead guilty and get shit-canned. With the influx of cases coming into prosecutor offices across the state, no prosecutor is going to petition against waiving speedy trial.

Interesting. Where did you get this info? I know the OC entered his plea in Justice Court.
https://www.kbzk.com/news/crime-cou...uilty-to-all-charges-including-aggravated-dui

I was talking about Garza's charges since his case was from November, thus the discussion about speedy trial waiver.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Interesting. Where did you get this info? I know the OC entered his plea in Justice Court.
https://www.kbzk.com/news/crime-cou...uilty-to-all-charges-including-aggravated-dui

I was talking about Garza's charges since his case was from November, thus the discussion about speedy trial waiver.

I understand. Where do you see that his criminal case is in Muni court? I would understand the Texas license issue being in Muni court, but I can’t find anything about the criminal case.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Since this is more than 300 days past citation, without a speedy trial waiver there might not be a charge pending. Given the number of experienced litigators who left when this attorney with not one trial under her belt was elected, I can see this deadline getting blown. Maybe even let to slide ala Hunter Biden's prosecutors. Maybe Garizzlies can stick his nose in the Court file on his next trip to Blowsman and let us know if the prosecutor(s) is competent.

First of all, the charges are pending in CITY court, not JUSTICE court. Thus, it's the city prosecutors handling the case, not the Gallatin Co Atty's Office, who had their mass exodus. Secondly, no prosecutor would let this matter go beyond the 200 days UNLESS the defense agrees to waive speedy trial. The fact that this keeps getting continued means the defense had to agree to waive speedy trial, which based on how that poop University has handled this mess, they're going to keep him around for the season and then he'll probably plead guilty and get poop. With the influx of cases coming into prosecutor offices across the state, no prosecutor is going to petition against waiving speedy trial.

It is a reasonable assumption, but I don't count on anything going correctly in Bubcat country. As I mentioned, it should be in the court file accessible to the public (including Garizzlies). You might be inclined to trust but I'm inclined to require verification.

 

[mcg]

I know it's difficult for most of you to grasp, but pretty much everything they said in this podcast is dead on accurate. Whey are so many griz fans freaking out over this and demanding answers NOW!!!? JEALOUSY.

MSU Admins told reporters directly that they are not answering questions on these matters until after the court proceedings. So do you really want Colter and others to throw those questions out at every interview to hear Vigen, Costello, or Crusado say, "No comment at this time."? What good would that do?

So that takes us to your anger over the MSU administration. They have a very specific protocol in place to deal with these legal matters. There are a lot of reasons for the protocols, not the least of which is protecting the university from lawsuits. The Kramer debacle paved the way for this, and they're damn sure not going to make that mistake again.

Not sure why all this is so hard for some of you to understand.

I call BS on the MSU protocols. Show us the "specific protocol". There is no way that all things of these types are handled the same way. They didn't even handle the first and second dui's the same way. Do you have what MSU said after the first dui, or how we got to know that there was some type of little suspension. I'm not sure I saw any official statement or announcement.

The Kramer matter is completely different.The AD tried to explain "why" Kramer had been fired, and Kramer and his attorney made an argument that Kramer was defamed. The court ruled that there had not been wrongful termination, I believe, or that's where it was headed.

If MSU had said more, they could have easily avoided that Kramer problem. And these guys didn't get fired anyway. "We are aware of the charges and are putting the coach on suspension with pay while we investigate or until the legal process has resolved the case." Where's the defamation there?

There is no right to have a one-year employment contract in MT, renewed. There is zero liability for not renewing a one-year contract. MSU could have let the DC contract expire and not renew. How hard would that have been?

Again, I was a lawyer for 45 years and advised in these kinds of situations multiple every year. Sometimes involving universities. I had access to 40 or 50 employment lawyers for advice when I needed it. My law firm has advised in tens of thousand of these cases.

Poor, much of what you are saying is wrong, and some is just plain stupid.

The post above is exactly right. The issues are, why does bozeman have a mysterious protocol that seems to be focused on sweeping this issue under the rug?; and why, does the bozeman protocol make it ok to promote and give raises to football coaches who get dui arrests while driving state cars? The notion that bozeman leadership is legally bound to say nothing is nonsense.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Interesting. Where did you get this info? I know the OC entered his plea in Justice Court.
https://www.kbzk.com/news/crime-cou...uilty-to-all-charges-including-aggravated-dui

I was talking about Garza's charges since his case was from November, thus the discussion about speedy trial waiver.

https://406mtsports.com/college/big...cle_ef858058-06de-11ee-9060-9bd68db62f21.html
"Garza has a Gallatin County Justice Court hearing scheduled for June 28, while Housewright and running backs coach Sam Mix — who was cited for multiple violations on the night of Housewright’s DUI charge — are both scheduled to appear in court on Aug. 9. Garza, Housewright and Mix have pleaded not guilty, per court records." (emphasis added).

 

[horribilisfan8184]

I was talking about Garza's charges since his case was from November, thus the discussion about speedy trial waiver.

https://406mtsports.com/college/big...cle_ef858058-06de-11ee-9060-9bd68db62f21.html
"Garza has a Gallatin County Justice Court hearing scheduled for June 28, while Housewright and running backs coach Sam Mix — who was cited for multiple violations on the night of Housewright’s DUI charge — are both scheduled to appear in court on Aug. 9. Garza, Housewright and Mix have pleaded not guilty, per court records." (emphasis added).

Thanks, I knew in my heart I was discussing the correct court and prosecutors office.

 

[Griz66]

I have been following this drama/coverup for 300+ days from the mountains of North GA. I think it is safe to assume that if this had occurred in Missoula, the 3 coaches would be long gone and Bobby and Haslam and Bodner would be under great pressure to resign. The community and what is left of the media would be unrelenting and more than likely the national media would be involved. If Engstrom were still President, Bobby and Haslam would have been canned 300+ days ago. UGA has a somewhat similar situation although with players not coaches and they have to date successfully done little other than minor slaps on the wrist. Driving a university leased vehicle into a tree at 104 MPH is resulting in at least two major law suits filed to date and likely more to come

 

[Bear Spray]

I finally got a chance to listen to Colters podcast and could't agree with him more, well done sir. Colter's reporting on all things Cat/Griz is factual, informative, accurate, and entertaining. Keep up the great reporting Colter.

I wrote this back on page 13: [....For the record, this collective group of griz fans who claim to loathe the Cats & all things Cats are running a thread about said Cats under the premise that drinking and driving is a bad, bad thing - which is absolutely true - but the truth of the matter, as some have actually admitted to, is that you have an unhealthy dose of schadenfreude - and have fallen into the same pit of despair Cat fans suffered through those many, many years ago. You all have collectively become the fan base you so often, to this day, blast & despise! ] Uofmman1122 responded 'This isn't the own you think it is.' It wasn't intended as an own, it was intended as a mirror. Take a good look. Do you like making excuses for losses? Do you like looking for any reason to take down your rival? I have really good friends who are hardcore Griz fans. Good humans who I'd fall on a sword for. This thread is an embarrassment to them, Griz Nation, and not representative of most Griz fans. Stop drinking your own Cool Aid & sober up.

Here's some excerpts from Colter: [ "There's no benefit for Cruzado to say anything until it's handled through the courts....... Which means there's no benefit to ask................. It''s a completely invalid criticism........... Now we're calling some of you guys out. Fairly. It's not a sports story. ... ..that's an outrageous statement....that is coming again from one side ...guys I don't know if you realize how this makes you look, compared to how you used to look as a fan base 15 years ago. You would not have this reaction 15 years ago. You would be like, 'oh, little brother had some coaches get in trouble. What losers. Would Griz fans be freaking out if the Griz hadn't got their asses kicked in Bozeman last year? Probably not. One side has what you used to have, you feel like something needs to take them down...... the reasons there's procedures in place for this at Montana State is they already went through an incredibly high profile lawsuit for for what was deemed wrongful termination. These procedures have been in place for over 20 years. The idea that this is some massive story is, it's not.]

They went on to say: [The drinking culture that surrounds college football in Montana .....so many people who say this case isn't being reported on enough or that these people should be burned at the stake - look in the mirror, right? Like these stadiums sell out for, the number one reason the stadiums sell out is the excitement around college football. The number two reason is the partying that ensues, before, during and after. It is a drinking event. Most people are drinking at these events. If there was a dui quota system....just sit outside Wa Griz stadium....you could hand out dui's to, I don't know how many you could hand out ...A lot. A lot. A lot. Montanans drink a lot. Because it's so acceptable to do it at events that Montanan's like....] How many of you calling for heads to roll for dui's would support police road blocks after home games to check for drunk driving? How many would support getting rid of alcohol at home games? Is it really about DUI's, or is it petty jealousy?

They finished with: [something fundamentally has happened to the mindset of a lot of Griz people though, and there's this manifestation of this losers mentality. You saw it last year when they, when Montana lost at Sacramento State. That was a terrible call. The out of bound call was wrong and they should have replayed it and it should have been a call in the Griz favor. But, to say the the refs screwed the Griz out of a Big Sky Championship or whatever, like I always say, if a game comes down to one play, you already lost. ....because there's so many plays in a football game. There''s certainly one of big time consequence, but you know, if you score two more times, if you don't let Sac State cut your lead in the fourth quarter, get a stop, force a punt, block a punt whatever, there are different things that can factor into it. it's just weird that there's this losers mentality in some of the fans right now. Think back 15 years ago how obsessed with the Griz Cat people were. I don't think they are - for sure for sure! .... ] He's right, we were. We're not now. Not at all. Look at Bobcat Nation. They know this site's become a joke dominated by a handful of trolls. Look at how many threads you run on the Cats.

So you asked for Colter to respond and he told you you're a bunch of whiney bitches and are completely wrong. Spot on. When everyone else is wrong & you're the only one who's right, it's time to look in the mirror. Unbelievable how far you've fallen. Hope you find some humility.

 

[EverettGriz]

Not about to read 10,000 words from a bub.

My thoughts are that colter (or some other journalist whether actual or just by name) would ask about these coaches just out of sheer curiosity. I mean, msdUi's handling of this entire thing has been so freakin bizarre that you'd just assume someone would want to know why just to satisfy their own curiosity if nothing else.

 

[3-7-77]

Tolstoy has reincarnated.

 

[SoldierGriz]

I have been following this drama/coverup for 300+ days from the mountains of North GA. I think it is safe to assume that if this had occurred in Missoula, the 3 coaches would be long gone and Bobby and Haslam and Bodner would be under great pressure to resign. The community and what is left of the media would be unrelenting and more than likely the national media would be involved. If Engstrom were still President, Bobby and Haslam would have been canned 300+ days ago. UGA has a somewhat similar situation although with players not coaches and they have to date successfully done little other than minor slaps on the wrist. Driving a university leased vehicle into a tree at 104 MPH is resulting in at least two major law suits filed to date and likely more to come

What a sad, sad take.