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[SaskGriz]

I can't believe it's not butter. More importantly, I guess, what does CatsRback mean? Where are they back from? Where did they go?

Guess who’s back, back again?

Did you give it a listen? Ru satisfied? How far this fan base has fallen… I knew it was bad, but I can’t believe it’s come to the point a media outlet had to tell this page to quit crying.

Nice answer. I can't tell if this is a Backstreet Boys song or a trailer for Poltergeist.

 

[ilovethecats]

Saw this cool pic on Twitter today! Looks like FCS fans think MSU has had a pretty good run since 2012! I think the gris are on that picture somewhere. Reporting live!

https://twitter.com/FCSFansNation/status/1694055474000470327?s=20

You know how useless the individual that created this is, when you see SDSU below NDSU. SDSU has dominated them the last three meetings. Plus JMU and how many other now FBS schools. Dude that made this had to be a coach at MSU who was driving at the time.

Wait. You don't think NDSU is the best FCS team since 2012?

I mean, they won championships in '12, '13, '14, '15, '17, '18, '19 and '21! They also won in 2011 but the graphic says best team since 2012. That's EIGHT national championships in that time frame. SDSU has won exactly one.

I'm not sure how any reasonable person can argue that since 2012 NDSU is without question the best team in the FCS. :?

 

[ordigger]

You know how useless the individual that created this is, when you see SDSU below NDSU. SDSU has dominated them the last three meetings. Plus JMU and how many other now FBS schools. Dude that made this had to be a coach at MSU who was driving at the time.

Wait. You don't think NDSU is the best FCS team since 2012?

I mean, they won championships in '12, '13, '14, '15, '17, '18, '19 and '21! They also won in 2011 but the graphic says best team since 2012. That's EIGHT national championships in that time frame. SDSU has won exactly one.

I'm not sure how any reasonable person can argue that since 2012 NDSU is without question the best team in the FCS. :?

I cant believe this has to be explained to you coach.

"How will the NEXT 10 years play out?'

Next has nothing to do with past performance. JMU and Sam Houston St are not even in FCS, which means the NEXT 10 years for them in FCS is pretty much impossible.

Not sure how any reasonable person doesnt understand what NEXT actually means. They tweeted this YESTERDAY.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I just respect the hustle of whomever made this. It will definitely get way more interaction putting the Griz down there.

 

[ilovethecats]

Wait. You don't think NDSU is the best FCS team since 2012?

I mean, they won championships in '12, '13, '14, '15, '17, '18, '19 and '21! They also won in 2011 but the graphic says best team since 2012. That's EIGHT national championships in that time frame. SDSU has won exactly one.

I'm not sure how any reasonable person can argue that since 2012 NDSU is without question the best team in the FCS. :?

I cant believe this has to be explained to you coach.

"How will the NEXT 10 years play out?'

Next has nothing to do with past performance. JMU and Sam Houston St are not even in FCS, which means the NEXT 10 years for them in FCS is pretty much impossible.

Not sure how any reasonable person doesnt understand what NEXT actually means. They tweeted this YESTERDAY.

Digg, it literally says best FCS team SINCE 2012. Then ASKS how it will play out in the next ten years. No where in that graphic does it claim that NDSU will BE the best team in the next 10 years. Though I don't see that scenario as too far fetched either.

But I appreciate the explanation of how you interpreted what they were saying. :thumb:

 

[garizzalies]

https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/1694155052787921260

Griz nation, don’t waste your time, I never will again.
Here’s the cliff notes:
One of them isn’t even a reporter anymore. Said he was a “former” media person. What’s he doing now, slinging insurance?
Griz fans are losers with a loser mentality. That was the biggest takeaway. They hit on it multiple times, at the beginning and end.
Bubcatz are on top now and Griz just need to accept it.
This issue is not even newsworthy, unless it happened in Missoula.
There’s no reason to say anything. Whatever happened, happened.
There’s always the possibility of botched police work.
They gave a bunch of misinformation about collecting police reports. Frankly, I thought this bit was borderline irresponsible. I thought I heard one of them say they did submit an electronic request for the police report but apparently they did not follow up or will not report on it.
The so-called reporters spent more time talking about some hillbilly concert and the pac12 than the actual facts of these two cases. Seriously, they glossed over the facts in under 20 secs.
DUI’s aren’t a big deal. “look in the mirror” Griz nation. DUIs could be “handed out” like candy outside of WAGriz on a gameday. (Funny, they did not make this same connection at Reno’s For Sale stadia).
These ”reporters” totally ignored the aggravating facts and the heightened standards for coaches and instead compared them to common DUIs by common fans. It sounded to me like they were trying to down-play DUIs, just like the other skyline reporter did.
Coach Sixx directed the media not to ask about it and the media agreed. Sixx instructed them, “Don’t ask.”
Incredibly, one of the “reporters” said this was “great job security” for the drunk coordinators.
It would be “disadvantageous” for a reporter to report on this kind of thing, especially with the corporate sponsorships that are in place.
The reporters “don’t opine” but admittedly will opine that the reporting on these cases has been great.
Instead of addressing the drinking problem in MT, one “reporter” suggested an illegal (tax free benefit) scheme where every coach and player could avoid DUIs by simply using university issued credit cards to get free Uber rides home. Again, seemed to be encouraging the underlying problems.
To me, the whole pod had the opposite effect as intended. I think the “reporter” was trying to score points with Griz fans but he sealed his fate with me. I would love to hear if it changed anyone else’s opinion of the facts or reporters.
Mr. Hoops, do you still feel the same way about this guy?

 

[BigGameBobby]

https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/1694155052787921260

Griz nation, don’t waste your time, I never will again.
Here’s the cliff notes:
One of them isn’t even a reporter anymore. Said he was a “former” media person. What’s he doing now, slinging insurance?
Griz fans are losers with a loser mentality. That was the biggest takeaway. They hit on it multiple times, at the beginning and end.
Bubcatz are on top now and Griz just need to accept it.
This issue is not even newsworthy, unless it happened in Missoula.
There’s no reason to say anything. Whatever happened, happened.
There’s always the possibility of botched police work.
They gave a bunch of misinformation about collecting police reports. Frankly, I thought this bit was borderline irresponsible. I thought I heard one of them say they did submit an electronic request for the police report but apparently they did not follow up or will not report on it.
The so-called reporters spent more time talking about some hillbilly concert and the pac12 than the actual facts of these two cases. Seriously, they glossed over the facts in under 20 secs.
DUI’s aren’t a big deal. “look in the mirror” Griz nation. DUIs could be “handed out” like candy outside of WAGriz on a gameday. (Funny, they did not make this same connection at Reno’s For Sale stadia).
These ”reporters” totally ignored the aggravating facts and the heightened standards for coaches and instead compared them to common DUIs by common fans. It sounded to me like they were trying to down-play DUIs, just like the other skyline reporter did.
Coach Sixx directed the media not to ask about it and the media agreed. Sixx instructed them, “Don’t ask.”
Incredibly, one of the “reporters” said this was “great job security” for the drunk coordinators.
It would be “disadvantageous” for a reporter to report on this kind of thing, especially with the corporate sponsorships that are in place.
The reporters “don’t opine” but admittedly will opine that the reporting on these cases has been great.
Instead of addressing the drinking problem in MT, one “reporter” suggested an illegal (tax free benefit) scheme where every coach and player could avoid DUIs by simply using university issued credit cards to get free Uber rides home. Again, seemed to be encouraging the underlying problems.
To me, the whole pod had the opposite effect as intended. I think the “reporter” was trying to score points with Griz fans but he sealed his fate with me. I would love to hear if it changed anyone else’s opinion of the facts or reporters.
Mr. Hoops, do you still feel the same way about this guy?

Don’t be so sad Lil Bro. Everything in that podcast is spot on, the delusion and loser mentality of gris nation is off the charts, oh how the tables have turned. Can’t wait for November!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/1694155052787921260

Griz nation, don’t waste your time, I never will again.
Here’s the cliff notes:
One of them isn’t even a reporter anymore. Said he was a “former” media person. What’s he doing now, slinging insurance?
Griz fans are losers with a loser mentality. That was the biggest takeaway. They hit on it multiple times, at the beginning and end.
Bubcatz are on top now and Griz just need to accept it.
This issue is not even newsworthy, unless it happened in Missoula.
There’s no reason to say anything. Whatever happened, happened.
There’s always the possibility of botched police work.
They gave a bunch of misinformation about collecting police reports. Frankly, I thought this bit was borderline irresponsible. I thought I heard one of them say they did submit an electronic request for the police report but apparently they did not follow up or will not report on it.
The so-called reporters spent more time talking about some hillbilly concert and the pac12 than the actual facts of these two cases. Seriously, they glossed over the facts in under 20 secs.
DUI’s aren’t a big deal. “look in the mirror” Griz nation. DUIs could be “handed out” like candy outside of WAGriz on a gameday. (Funny, they did not make this same connection at Reno’s For Sale stadia).
These ”reporters” totally ignored the aggravating facts and the heightened standards for coaches and instead compared them to common DUIs by common fans. It sounded to me like they were trying to down-play DUIs, just like the other skyline reporter did.
Coach Sixx directed the media not to ask about it and the media agreed. Sixx instructed them, “Don’t ask.”
Incredibly, one of the “reporters” said this was “great job security” for the drunk coordinators.
It would be “disadvantageous” for a reporter to report on this kind of thing, especially with the corporate sponsorships that are in place.
The reporters “don’t opine” but admittedly will opine that the reporting on these cases has been great.
Instead of addressing the drinking problem in MT, one “reporter” suggested an illegal (tax free benefit) scheme where every coach and player could avoid DUIs by simply using university issued credit cards to get free Uber rides home. Again, seemed to be encouraging the underlying problems.
To me, the whole pod had the opposite effect as intended. I think the “reporter” was trying to score points with Griz fans but he sealed his fate with me. I would love to hear if it changed anyone else’s opinion of the facts or reporters.
Mr. Hoops, do you still feel the same way about this guy?

I have to pretty much agree with you on the overall tone of the pod. There was a lot of, 'DUIs are serious, but . . .' I think they did a good job of explaining why nobody will question Sixx or the administration about their issues. Don't want to lose sources. I understand that, and at least they were honest about it. Off the record before a press conference, Sixx said not to ask about it. They listened. It kind of confirms what we've been thinking about the MSU admin controlling what gets reported. More difficult to get police reports in Bozeman, etc. I forgot the nugget about job security (one gets popped for DUI, the other gets popped, if one gets fired and one doesn't, the fired guy can sue, etc.). Is that a good policy? I would have liked to hear their opinions on that question.

I don't think they mentioned the raise/renewal of coach Threepeat with his criminal charges pending and how fucked up that is. Might've missed it. Also, at about the 10:00 mark, one of the hosts mentions that the police reports have been published by local media outlets. Yes for the DC, but I haven't seen anyone publish the OC's. I think Kyle nailed it when he said sometimes, they just don't want certain stuff out there yet.

 

[garizzalies]

{pod trashing Griz fans for questioning what’s wrong with this whole disgusting mess}

Here’s the part I don’t get.
You spent what felt like the majority of the time trying to explain that although you are the last editorializing reporter left in MT, you won’t editorialize this, and apparently skyline does not intend to put anything in writing until after the trial(s), which of course will be long after all the wins are logged this season.
However, it seemed like another skyline reporter reported the opposite to the dark side. See page 27 of this very thread. If not for the tip from My Homey, this may have gone unseen.
My interpretation of what that other skyline guy put in writing was that DUIs are actually a good thing for assistant coaches and makes them more valuable. Is that why MSdUi gave the one drunk coordinator a raise? Thanks.

 

[3-7-77]

CDA, great analogy about golf, strip clubs, and telling the wife not to question you. Is this from your creative side, or based on real life( not yours, of course)?

 

[Alaska Griz]

Griz nation, don’t waste your time, I never will again.
Here’s the cliff notes:
One of them isn’t even a reporter anymore. Said he was a “former” media person. What’s he doing now, slinging insurance?
Griz fans are losers with a loser mentality. That was the biggest takeaway. They hit on it multiple times, at the beginning and end.
Bubcatz are on top now and Griz just need to accept it.
This issue is not even newsworthy, unless it happened in Missoula.
There’s no reason to say anything. Whatever happened, happened.
There’s always the possibility of botched police work.
They gave a bunch of misinformation about collecting police reports. Frankly, I thought this bit was borderline irresponsible. I thought I heard one of them say they did submit an electronic request for the police report but apparently they did not follow up or will not report on it.
The so-called reporters spent more time talking about some hillbilly concert and the pac12 than the actual facts of these two cases. Seriously, they glossed over the facts in under 20 secs.
DUI’s aren’t a big deal. “look in the mirror” Griz nation. DUIs could be “handed out” like candy outside of WAGriz on a gameday. (Funny, they did not make this same connection at Reno’s For Sale stadia).
These ”reporters” totally ignored the aggravating facts and the heightened standards for coaches and instead compared them to common DUIs by common fans. It sounded to me like they were trying to down-play DUIs, just like the other skyline reporter did.
Coach Sixx directed the media not to ask about it and the media agreed. Sixx instructed them, “Don’t ask.”
Incredibly, one of the “reporters” said this was “great job security” for the drunk coordinators.
It would be “disadvantageous” for a reporter to report on this kind of thing, especially with the corporate sponsorships that are in place.
The reporters “don’t opine” but admittedly will opine that the reporting on these cases has been great.
Instead of addressing the drinking problem in MT, one “reporter” suggested an illegal (tax free benefit) scheme where every coach and player could avoid DUIs by simply using university issued credit cards to get free Uber rides home. Again, seemed to be encouraging the underlying problems.
To me, the whole pod had the opposite effect as intended. I think the “reporter” was trying to score points with Griz fans but he sealed his fate with me. I would love to hear if it changed anyone else’s opinion of the facts or reporters.
Mr. Hoops, do you still feel the same way about this guy?

Don’t be so sad Lil Bro. Everything in that podcast is spot on, the delusion and loser mentality of gris nation is off the charts, oh how the tables have turned. Can’t wait for November!

It's clear you really have no concern for anything relating to Montana, the Bozeman community, or the way public employees conduct themselves, nor accountability by MSU's leaders. You likely dropped out of high school to become an internet troll and happen to root for the bobcats. That's fine. But at least understand, some folks DO care about these things. Not everything in life is about FCS football and cats or griz. Your lack of intellect is depressing, but there's no need to advertise it to the world.

 

[mthoopsfan]

https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/1694155052787921260

Griz nation, don’t waste your time, I never will again.
Here’s the cliff notes:
One of them isn’t even a reporter anymore. Said he was a “former” media person. What’s he doing now, slinging insurance?
Griz fans are losers with a loser mentality. That was the biggest takeaway. They hit on it multiple times, at the beginning and end.
Bubcatz are on top now and Griz just need to accept it.
This issue is not even newsworthy, unless it happened in Missoula.
There’s no reason to say anything. Whatever happened, happened.
There’s always the possibility of botched police work.
They gave a bunch of misinformation about collecting police reports. Frankly, I thought this bit was borderline irresponsible. I thought I heard one of them say they did submit an electronic request for the police report but apparently they did not follow up or will not report on it.
The so-called reporters spent more time talking about some hillbilly concert and the pac12 than the actual facts of these two cases. Seriously, they glossed over the facts in under 20 secs.
DUI’s aren’t a big deal. “look in the mirror” Griz nation. DUIs could be “handed out” like candy outside of WAGriz on a gameday. (Funny, they did not make this same connection at Reno’s For Sale stadia).
These ”reporters” totally ignored the aggravating facts and the heightened standards for coaches and instead compared them to common DUIs by common fans. It sounded to me like they were trying to down-play DUIs, just like the other skyline reporter did.
Coach Sixx directed the media not to ask about it and the media agreed. Sixx instructed them, “Don’t ask.”
Incredibly, one of the “reporters” said this was “great job security” for the drunk coordinators.
It would be “disadvantageous” for a reporter to report on this kind of thing, especially with the corporate sponsorships that are in place.
The reporters “don’t opine” but admittedly will opine that the reporting on these cases has been great.
Instead of addressing the drinking problem in MT, one “reporter” suggested an illegal (tax free benefit) scheme where every coach and player could avoid DUIs by simply using university issued credit cards to get free Uber rides home. Again, seemed to be encouraging the underlying problems.
To me, the whole pod had the opposite effect as intended. I think the “reporter” was trying to score points with Griz fans but he sealed his fate with me. I would love to hear if it changed anyone else’s opinion of the facts or reporters.
Mr. Hoops, do you still feel the same way about this guy?

I almost never listen to podcasts. I can't follow any of this and don't know who or what is being discussed. I don't who you mean by "this guy". To me, the story is how MSU has handled this, more than what occurred and how it's been reported. I've commented several times on how MSU has handled it. I couldn't care less which reporter did or said what.

 

[wbtfg]

https://twitter.com/SkylineSportsMT/status/1694155052787921260

Good stuff, Colter. Great to listened to an unbiased, professional perspective.

 

[poorgriz]

I know it's difficult for most of you to grasp, but pretty much everything they said in this podcast is dead on accurate. Whey are so many griz fans freaking out over this and demanding answers NOW!!!? JEALOUSY.

MSU Admins told reporters directly that they are not answering questions on these matters until after the court proceedings. So do you really want Colter and others to throw those questions out at every interview to hear Vigen, Costello, or Crusado say, "No comment at this time."? What good would that do?

So that takes us to your anger over the MSU administration. They have a very specific protocol in place to deal with these legal matters. There are a lot of reasons for the protocols, not the least of which is protecting the university from lawsuits. The Kramer debacle paved the way for this, and they're damn sure not going to make that mistake again.

Not sure why all this is so hard for some of you to understand.

 

[mthoopsfan]

CDA, great analogy about golf, strip clubs, and telling the wife not to question you. Is this from your creative side, or based on real life( not yours, of course)?

I chuckled at that one too.

 

[retiredpopo]

https://gallatincomt.virtualtownhall.net/sites/g/files/vyhlif606/f/uploads/records_request_form-fillable_form_0.pdf

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I know it's difficult for most of you to grasp, but pretty much everything they said in this podcast is dead on accurate. Whey are so many griz fans freaking out over this and demanding answers NOW!!!? JEALOUSY.

MSU Admins told reporters directly that they are not answering questions on these matters until after the court proceedings. So do you really want Colter and others to throw those questions out at every interview to hear Vigen, Costello, or Crusado say, "No comment at this time."? What good would that do?

So that takes us to your anger over the MSU administration. They have a very specific protocol in place to deal with these legal matters. There are a lot of reasons for the protocols, not the least of which is protecting the university from lawsuits. The Kramer debacle paved the way for this, and they're damn sure not going to make that mistake again.

Not sure why all this is so hard for some of you to understand.

Is part of the protocol to reward DUI arrests? Sure looks like it. The message is that you can rack up your 3d DUI arrest and MSU will reward you. Those in power will not be questioned because they said, "no comment."

 

[mthoopsfan]

I know it's difficult for most of you to grasp, but pretty much everything they said in this podcast is dead on accurate. Whey are so many griz fans freaking out over this and demanding answers NOW!!!? JEALOUSY.

MSU Admins told reporters directly that they are not answering questions on these matters until after the court proceedings. So do you really want Colter and others to throw those questions out at every interview to hear Vigen, Costello, or Crusado say, "No comment at this time."? What good would that do?

So that takes us to your anger over the MSU administration. They have a very specific protocol in place to deal with these legal matters. There are a lot of reasons for the protocols, not the least of which is protecting the university from lawsuits. The Kramer debacle paved the way for this, and they're damn sure not going to make that mistake again.

Not sure why all this is so hard for some of you to understand.

I call BS on the MSU protocols. Show us the "specific protocol". There is no way that all things of these types are handled the same way. They didn't even handle the first and second dui's the same way. Do you have what MSU said after the first dui, or how we got to know that there was some type of little suspension. I'm not sure I saw any official statement or announcement.

The Kramer matter is completely different.The AD tried to explain "why" Kramer had been fired, and Kramer and his attorney made an argument that Kramer was defamed. The court ruled that there had not been wrongful termination, I believe, or that's where it was headed.

If MSU had said more, they could have easily avoided that Kramer problem. And these guys didn't get fired anyway. "We are aware of the charges and are putting the coach on suspension with pay while we investigate or until the legal process has resolved the case." Where's the defamation there?

There is no right to have a one-year employment contract in MT, renewed. There is zero liability for not renewing a one-year contract. MSU could have let the DC contract expire and not renew. How hard would that have been?

Again, I was a lawyer for 45 years and advised in these kinds of situations multiple every year. Sometimes involving universities. I had access to 40 or 50 employment lawyers for advice when I needed it. My law firm has advised in tens of thousand of these cases.

Poor, much of what you are saying is wrong, and some is just plain stupid.

 

[ordigger]

I cant believe this has to be explained to you coach.

"How will the NEXT 10 years play out?'

Next has nothing to do with past performance. JMU and Sam Houston St are not even in FCS, which means the NEXT 10 years for them in FCS is pretty much impossible.

Not sure how any reasonable person doesnt understand what NEXT actually means. They tweeted this YESTERDAY.

Digg, it literally says best FCS team SINCE 2012. Then ASKS how it will play out in the next ten years. No where in that graphic does it claim that NDSU will BE the best team in the next 10 years. Though I don't see that scenario as too far fetched either.

But I appreciate the explanation of how you interpreted what they were saying. :thumb:

Read the tweet of what they are asking. His barometer is how teams has performed since 2012. But that has no bearing on how a team will do next ten years. Like, I said past performance means nothing. Maybe the last year or so. I'm not arguing how good NDSU has been, I'm arguing how he can use a graphic that has no impact on the future, more so because it has James Madsion, and Sam Houston State on it. It's a lazy tweet, and I see others pointing on the same problem. He has two choices, either say how great teams have been in last 10 years or use other metrics to make a true prediction of how the next 10 years play out.

 

[oldrunner]

Sounds to me like they hit the nail right on the head on about every angle that has been discussed here on the matter.

Coming from a state where there is little drinking at most sporting events, notice I said little and not none, and a state with very strict DUI laws, I would say that the same story would have more legs here. However, I'm conflicted about how this is looked at from a Montana point of view.

We say that these are private lives, but they really are not. These are public people using public property while endangering the public. Thank goodness nobody lost their lives over it.

As was said in the podcast, The true story is how it has been handled by the system in Bozeman. This should have been resolved a long time ago.

Okay...., off my soap box now. :roll: