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[bigsky33]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Amazing Kreskin he is!

So, what did the person/people say when you called? I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt here by believing that you called, so the least you can do is tell us what was said. It’s not confidential.

I talked to the Assistant AD who I know. Expressed my displeasure with the way things were being handled. He said they have gotten a lot of calls but didn’t say much more of any significance. Not surprised. Based on what he said about getting a lot of calls, I have to disagree with soldier Griz. Lots of Cat fans have been vocal.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

So, what did the person/people say when you called? I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt here by believing that you called, so the least you can do is tell us what was said. It’s not confidential.

I talked to the Assistant AD who I know. Expressed my displeasure with the way things were being handled. He said they have gotten a lot of calls but didn’t say much more of any significance. Not surprised. Based on what he said about getting a lot of calls, I have to disagree with soldier Griz. Lots of Cat fans have been vocal.

That sucks that they refuse to explain their decisions to their supporters. You and I, and everyone with a brain can see how badly they’ve fucked this whole thing up, but unchecked power almost always runs wild.

 

[mthoopsfan]

The degree to which MSU has gone to NOT address the issue is more than disconcerting. Everyone who works in a publicly funded position understands they are held to a higher standard. If I were to go on Facebook and post a picture of my wife and I having a beer at a Griz game, I would be suspended immediately and the school board would meet with the superintendents to decide whether I should continue in my position. I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE STANDARD TO WHICH I MUST ABIDE AS A PUBLIC FIGURE/EMPLOYEE AND AGREE TO LIVE BY IT. Any other self-aware and sane public servant (especially those in high paying/profile positions) understands this too. Yet talking about Mack's punishment for his arrest, Vigen says "A one game suspension is significant for a coach." The fact these two clowns (who are easily replaceable by the way...it's not like they are NFL-bound) still have jobs is a slap in the face to the rest of us who are apparently less important and play by a different rules. Pathetic.

Unfortunately, MSU has a habit of sweeping the misdeeds of athletes under the carpet. When I was an undergraduate 20+ years ago, I TA'd a criminal justice course for a guy named Dan Murphy. I graded papers and gave him the scores to put into the gradebook. A high profile athlete in the class had the writing ability of a middle school student. I routinely failed them, not only on content but on grammar/mechanics as well. They turned in their final paper and it was beautifully written. I typed the first sentence into Google and found most of their paper was plagiarized. I reported it to the professor, who went to the dean of the college of letters and science. I forgot about it thinking the student was screwed. A couple of weeks later I was going through final grades and noticed this student was not only still enrolled in the course, but earned a 'C' for the semester. I asked the professor how this student passed the course. He said, "The department chair spoke with the athletic director. They called this student's father, who assured them the student would be punished severely. They lost their vehicle." Wow! How harsh! How would they go on with their lives?! An athlete was held to a different standard than any other student, who would have failed the course and be booted from school or placed on academic probation. Fast forward a couple of years and this player would later be charged with the deed assault while still on the team. They should have been gone but someone was victimized by this loser. Pathetic.

Happens everywhere, including um. I know of some examples of griz football players failing drug tests, but the students in the lab threw away the results. True story. But, most importantly, what’s the consensus here? MSU fans are bad, and unethical, and um fans are righteous?

You are a liar and always have been. Does the NCAA do most of the drug testing?

Please give us your source/cite saying that UM (or MSU) tests athletes on their own? I've certainly never heard of that.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Happens everywhere, including um. I know of some examples of griz football players failing drug tests, but the students in the lab threw away the results. True story. But, most importantly, what’s the consensus here? MSU fans are bad, and unethical, and um fans are righteous?

I know one lab result that wasn’t thrown out, and that was a test the NCAA conducted on a Bobcat starter who pissed hot at least twice from a magical “OTC supplement” that somehow stayed in his system for over a year based on what was reported (back when things were reported in Bozeman). Bobfans were fine with it. No big deal.

 

[firmgriz]

If you’re going to resort to weak-minded “whataboutism” rather than actually address the mess at msDUI at least don’t hang your hat on obvious untruths. Do you really believe schools do their own drug testing rather than the NCAA?? Do you really expect anyone else to believe it??Does that in any way make any sense to you? Come on man. The consensus here is that you’re lying.

 

[KoolMoeDee]

If you’re going to resort to weak-minded “whataboutism” rather than actually address the mess at msDUI at least don’t hang your hat on obvious untruths. Do you really believe schools do their own drug testing rather than the NCAA?? Do you really expect anyone else to believe it??Does that in any way make any sense to you? Come on man. The consensus here is that you’re lying.

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/sidearm.nextgen.sites/gogriz.com/documents/2022/7/22/2022-23_SA_Handbook.pdf?timestamp=20220722035405

3. Testing Protocol
a. Random Drug Screen/Testing for Substances.
(i) Throughout the year, student-athletes will be randomly selected to provide a
urine specimen, for submission to the Designated Drug Testing Laboratory
(hereinafter "laboratory"). Although the selection process will be random, a
computerized weighting system or similar mechanism (which will be
documented) may be used, so that athletes in sports where a given substance is
more likely to be abused will be more likely to have their sample tested and those
exhibiting inordinate weight gain or other behaviors associated with substance
abuse will be more likely to be tested.
(ii) Initial urine collections will be carried out under the auspices of the athletic
training staff. The athletic training staff will code the specimens for identification.
The team physician and/or head certified athletic trainer will be the only
individuals retaining the records correlating the identifying numbers with the
appropriate names. The lab will identify the urine samples by number only as the
corresponding names will not be given to the laboratory.

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

Actually, 90% of Division 1 athletic programs and more than half of Division 2 programs have programs and protocols for drug testing outside the realm of the NCAA.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Since people are talking about things and people unrelated to the thread, I’d like to take a moment to remember the DI football offensive and defensive coordinators in Montana who didn’t get arrested for drunk driving and/or evading. Also, let’s remember all the DI ADs and presidents in Montana who didn’t give raises to and renew the contracts of OCs and DCs who were recently arrested for drunk driving. All the rest of them can suck it and I hope they get stuck behind scratch-off lottery people in line at every gas station forever.

 

[3-7-77]

Since people are talking about things and people unrelated to the thread, I’d like to take a moment to remember the DI football offensive and defensive coordinators in Montana who didn’t get arrested for drunk drink and/or evading. Also, let’s remember all the DI ADs and presidents in Montana who didn’t give raises to and renew the contracts of OCs and DCs who were recently arrested for drunk driving. All the rest of them can suck it and I hope they get stuck behind scratch-off lottery people in line at every gas station forever.

:clap: :clap: :clap: OOOOOH! Make a note: Don't piss off CDA! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[poorgriz]

Happens everywhere, including um. I know of some examples of griz football players failing drug tests, but the students in the lab threw away the results. True story. But, most importantly, what’s the consensus here? MSU fans are bad, and unethical, and um fans are righteous?

You are a liar and always have been. Does the NCAA do most of the drug testing?

Please give us your source/cite saying that UM (or MSU) tests athletes on their own? I've certainly never heard of that.

Nope, sorry sunshine..... I don't lie, I'm not a lawyer. 100% true that ex grix football players told me they found out after their playing days that they had failed drug tests but never heard anything about it. Granted, this was a long time ago and it was for pot and shrooms, so really no big deal. Zero chance I'm going to post any names here, they're friends of mine. At the time, my buddies on the Cats team and griz team told me the majority of players smoked a little weed, and\or did some partaking in other minor recreational drug use, even during the season. I don't know if things are the same today or not but I'm guessing they are.

 

[garizzalies]

I also think it is funny as wound up as some posters are that they have not either went to bozo and obtained a copy of the arrest affidavits or found a local to do so for them.

Swing and a miss. You completely missed the point of this whole thread.
Why should we have to do that?
Why aren’t the so-called “journalists” doing that?
Why are there no articles about this crap?
For cripes sake, if not for this thread, most of MT would have no idea there was a hearing scheduled. I should get a Pulitzer.

We had to poke the local reporters to even wake them up to know this was happening, and one of them even admitted it would be covered differently if it happened in Missoula.

What the double fuck?!??!

I don’t care if you are a bubcat or not. All Montanans should be up in arms. Why is some North Dakota jackass allowing this shit to fly? I don’t like our state’s dui record and I’m sick of bozo making the rest of us look bad

 

[mthoopsfan]

You are a liar and always have been. Does the NCAA do most of the drug testing?

Please give us your source/cite saying that UM (or MSU) tests athletes on their own? I've certainly never heard of that.

Nope, sorry sunshine..... I don't lie, I'm not a lawyer. 100% true that ex grix football players told me they found out after their playing days that they had failed drug tests but never heard anything about it. Granted, this was a long time ago and it was for pot and shrooms, so really no big deal. Zero chance I'm going to post any names here, they're friends of mine. At the time, my buddies on the Cats team and griz team told me the majority of players smoked a little weed, and\or did some partaking in other minor recreational drug use, even during the season. I don't know if things are the same today or not but I'm guessing they are.

You are a liar, or you are talking about another age of athletics. UM either doesn't test or doesn't have much of a testing program. Most college testing is focused on things like steroids. Players are not even aware of it, to my knowledge. People in a lab don't know who is being tested, because they are testing numbers. The numbers come from multiple places, not just the athletic department. I doubt that anyone at the lab has the number code. There is a chain of custody. The lab would report any results to the team doctor or head trainer. Are you saying that the head trainer or doctor looked at results, and threw them away? It would be virtually impossible for a former player to find out that the head trainer or team doctor threw away the results. Why would someone in such a position do that? In any event, there is virtually no penalty for a first time offense, according to the policies.

You are one of the worst offenders on egriz for just making up stuff. You've done it for years. You must be an awful person.

 

[Griz Addict]

I also think it is funny as wound up as some posters are that they have not either went to bozo and obtained a copy of the arrest affidavits or found a local to do so for them.

Swing and a miss. You completely missed the point of this whole thread.
Why should we have to do that?
Why aren’t the so-called “journalists” doing that?
Why are there no articles about this crap?
For cripes sake, if not for this thread, most of MT would have no idea there was a hearing scheduled. I should get a Pulitzer.

We had to poke the local reporters to even wake them up to know this was happening, and one of them even admitted it would be covered differently if it happened in Missoula.

What the double fudge?!??!

I don’t care if you are a bubcat or not. All Montanans should be up in arms. Why is some North Dakota jackass allowing this poop to fly? I don’t like our state’s dui record and I’m sick of bozo making the rest of us look bad

You know damn well if this happened at UM, every reporter in the state would be investigating and writing articles about it 6 times a day. Till eventually some jackass writes a book about it. Odd how 2 big stories come out of MSdUi and you don't hear a fucking peep

 

[garizzalies]

Swing and a miss. You completely missed the point of this whole thread.
Why should we have to do that?
Why aren’t the so-called “journalists” doing that?
Why are there no articles about this crap?
For cripes sake, if not for this thread, most of MT would have no idea there was a hearing scheduled. I should get a Pulitzer.

We had to poke the local reporters to even wake them up to know this was happening, and one of them even admitted it would be covered differently if it happened in Missoula.

What the double fudge?!??!

I don’t care if you are a bubcat or not. All Montanans should be up in arms. Why is some North Dakota jackass allowing this poop to fly? I don’t like our state’s dui record and I’m sick of bozo making the rest of us look bad

You know damn well if this happened at UM, every reporter in the state would be investigating and writing articles about it 6 times a day. Till eventually some jackass writes a book about it. Odd how 2 big stories come out of MSdUi and you don't hear a fudge peep

Exactly. The one “reporter” practically admitted as much.

I’m sick of it. Their head coach is some jackass from ND who has no connection to MT other than a stepping stone.

The 3-time dui offender still had Texas plates when he got pulled over.

The RB coach was freshly hired out of Washington.

Not sure where the OC is from but I would be surprised if he has some connection to MT.

They don’t care about MT and our laws. I guess they are a fair representation of bozo—a bunch of transplants—but they don’t rep MT. They are tarnishing our great state and all any bubcat can say is Shhhhhhhhhhhh….

Add it all up = win at all costs

 

[mthoopsfan]

Not disagreeing with the above post, but here's a blurb on the rb coach from 406 Sports:

"An offensive analyst and recruiting and operations assistant the past two seasons, Mix arrived at Montana State after three seasons coaching at Montana State-Northern. The Sammamish, Washington, product worked as the Lights’ receivers and special teams coordinator from 2019-21 before joining the Bobcats. Mix played receiver at MSU Northern from 2015-18, catching 17 passes in each of the 2016, 2017 and 2018 seasons and graduating from MSUN in 2019. He recovered from a brutal stabbing in 2015 when he was a freshman."

 

[garizzalies]

Back from taking a shower after I looked up the OC on the bubcat website. Could not find any MT connection for the OC. Looks like he met coach Sixx at Wyoming and brought his morals from elsewhere like this whole bunch of carpetbaggers.

 

[3-7-77]

Not disagreeing with the above post, but here's a blurb on the rb coach from 406 Sports:

"An offensive analyst and recruiting and operations assistant the past two seasons, Mix arrived at Montana State after three seasons coaching at Montana State-Northern. The Sammamish, Washington, product worked as the Lights’ receivers and special teams coordinator from 2019-21 before joining the Bobcats. Mix played receiver at MSU Northern from 2015-18, catching 17 passes in each of the 2016, 2017 and 2018 seasons and graduating from MSUN in 2019. He recovered from a brutal stabbing in 2015 when he was a freshman."

Was he on the receiving end of that kid from Havre's 'slash, stab, stick' maneuver in Havre on night, long, long ago? Three victims. I never did hear the end of that sicko bastards saga. I heard the GF JDC housed this POS, but then silence reigned.
Update: Yes, he was. Here's the link.
https://ravallirepublic.com/news/state-and-regional/article_5c867939-3c78-52d4-a3bb-d9ef7d025400.html?mode=nowapp#:~:text=The%20May%202%20stabbings%20injured,-y

 

[HookedonGriz]

Not disagreeing with the above post, but here's a blurb on the rb coach from 406 Sports:

"An offensive analyst and recruiting and operations assistant the past two seasons, Mix arrived at Montana State after three seasons coaching at Montana State-Northern. The Sammamish, Washington, product worked as the Lights’ receivers and special teams coordinator from 2019-21 before joining the Bobcats. Mix played receiver at MSU Northern from 2015-18, catching 17 passes in each of the 2016, 2017 and 2018 seasons and graduating from MSUN in 2019. He recovered from a brutal stabbing in 2015 when he was a freshman."

Was he on the receiving end of that kid from Havre's 'slash, stab, stick' maneuver in Havre on night, long, long ago? Three victims. I never did hear the end of that sicko bastards saga. I heard the GF JDC housed this POS, but then silence reigned.
Update: Yes, he was. Here's the link.
https://ravallirepublic.com/news/state-and-regional/article_5c867939-3c78-52d4-a3bb-d9ef7d025400.html?mode=nowapp#:~:text=The%20May%202%20stabbings%20injured,-y

Wow good find. That has the makings of a Dateline episode. Yikes!

 

[3-7-77]

Out of the blue I did a quick search and found that article. There IS a happy ending to this story:


"Justice Brown of Havre was sentenced to 100 years in state prison for stabbing three Montana State University-Northern students in May, the Havre Daily News reported Thursday.

Judge Daniel Boucher said his first duty was to protect the public, and gave Brown 100 years each on three counts and 40 years for a fourth count, according to the Havre Daily News. The sentences will run concurrently.

Brown, then 17, pleaded guilty in November to attempted deliberate homicide in the stabbings of the three students.

The stabbing was reported at about 4:30 a.m. May 2, about the same time another disturbance was reported. The suspect was found at the scene of the second disturbance with blood on his clothing and shoes that matched prints found at and near the scene of the stabbing, Acting Police Chief Gabe Matosich said. One of the victims identified the suspect in a photo lineup.


The suspect told police he must have blacked out because he didn’t remember anything that happened after 2:30 a.m., court records said.

Police said they believe the suspect broke into the apartment through a back window. It did not appear anything was taken.

Nineteen-year-old Sam Mix was stabbed more than three dozen times. Nineteen-year-old Taylor Woolman was stabbed more than 20 times. Twenty-year-old Alicia Sneed was stabbed seven times before she escaped and called for help.


Brown’s guilty plea comes after reaching an agreement with prosecutors.

In August, Brown was sentenced to two years’ probation in Hill County Court after admitting to committing the crime of sexual intercourse without consent in August 2014 with a 13-year-old girl.

—The Associated Press and Havre Daily News contributed to this report."


Two years probation for raping a 13 year old. So, he was out drinking and raising hell when he should have been in Deer Lodge. :roll: Well, he's there now. :thumb:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Was he on the receiving end of that kid from Havre's 'slash, stab, stick' maneuver in Havre on night, long, long ago? Three victims. I never did hear the end of that sicko bastards saga. I heard the GF JDC housed this POS, but then silence reigned.
Update: Yes, he was. Here's the link.
https://ravallirepublic.com/news/state-and-regional/article_5c867939-3c78-52d4-a3bb-d9ef7d025400.html?mode=nowapp#:~:text=The%20May%202%20stabbings%20injured,-y

Wow good find. That has the makings of a Dateline episode. Yikes!

I’m glad he’s still with us after getting freaking stabbed those years ago. That can’t be easy to deal with as time goes by. Then, from what is seems like (not a factual assertion), to be asked to be a fall guy for the OC’s alleged drunken crash of a MSU-issued vehicle? Bad stuff. Griz/Cat aside, I’m Team Mix. Dude has been through it, it seems.