Reese is coming

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Felas... This is about Reese? How?

Payton, it is an organic conversation. It goes where it wants to go. Might as well try to herd cats. And you know how cats are...

Uncommitted losers?

 

[UMGriz75]

The coaching strategy might have survived without the Simis OT fumble, his second in as many tries, which you somehow manage to ignore.

Ignored nothing. Hayden Stout got to Simis twice in that game and stripped the ball loose.

And how did the Griz end up in overtime in the first place?

That "coaching strategy might have survived?" The strategy that intentionally placed the game at risk?

That's the part you "somehow manage to ignore."

In that case, a "player mistake" was recovered by a "player touchdown." Coaching didn't have much to do with either one. "Coaching" sure as hell did not win that game, blame Simis all you want, his "fumble" did not affect the outcome. Not like 4 interceptions at NDSU, that's the part you somehow manage to ignore.

So why did it end up in OT in the first place, from a comfortable lead?

As Stitt admitted, he "went conservative" to protect a 24-13 lead, and then ordered more passing upon the theory -- direct quote -- "you have to pass sometime." So, in running up the plays (92) just to run up the plays and burn clock, what happened?

Gee, this is a tough one, isn't it?

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Ahhhh. The "did so, did too" argument construct. A wonderful walk in time back to 2nd grade. I still remember to this day how earth shattering and important those melee topics were then, and still are today. Especially the one where it was finally decided once and for all that sloppy joe's topped beanie-weenie casserole in cafeteria fare. There was no way both dishes could taste "delightful." That argument lasted the whole year.

 

[UMGriz75]

Ahhhh. The "did so, did too" argument construct. A wonderful walk in time back to 2nd grade. I still remember to this day how earth shattering and important those melee topics were then, and still are today. Especially the one where it was finally decided once and for all that sloppy joe's topped beanie-weenie casserole in cafeteria fare. There was no way both dishes could taste "delightful." That argument lasted the whole year.

Football fan forums must drive you nuts. Or perhaps they did?

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Ahhhh. The "did so, did too" argument construct. A wonderful walk in time back to 2nd grade. I still remember to this day how earth shattering and important those melee topics were then, and still are today. Especially the one where it was finally decided once and for all that sloppy joe's topped beanie-weenie casserole in cafeteria fare. There was no way both dishes could taste "delightful." That argument lasted the whole year.

Did it

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Ahhhh. The "did so, did too" argument construct. A wonderful walk in time back to 2nd grade. I still remember to this day how earth shattering and important those melee topics were then, and still are today. Especially the one where it was finally decided once and for all that sloppy joe's topped beanie-weenie casserole in cafeteria fare. There was no way both dishes could taste "delightful." That argument lasted the whole year.

Football fan forums must drive you nuts. Or perhaps they did?

Wasn't referencing your post. And football fan forums don't drive me nuts, but meaningless disagreements about the definition or meaning of the word "humiliating" bore me to tears.

 

[UMGriz75]

Ahhhh. The "did so, did too" argument construct. A wonderful walk in time back to 2nd grade. I still remember to this day how earth shattering and important those melee topics were then, and still are today. Especially the one where it was finally decided once and for all that sloppy joe's topped beanie-weenie casserole in cafeteria fare. There was no way both dishes could taste "delightful." That argument lasted the whole year.

Football fan forums must drive you nuts. Or perhaps they did?

Wasn't referencing your post. And football fan forums don't drive me nuts, but meaningless disagreements about the definition or meaning of the word "humiliating" bore me to tears.

Easy solution. Don't read the posts.

I tend to agree with you on words like "humiliating" but it is also true that people feel compelled to create something whole cloth -- Coastal Carolina game -- and bestow the epithet when there is little to be said in favor of the comparison, esp compared to some of this year's examples.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

The coaching strategy might have survived without the Simis OT fumble, his second in as many tries, which you somehow manage to ignore.

Ignored nothing. Hayden Stout got to Simis twice in that game and stripped the ball loose.

And how did the Griz end up in overtime in the first place?

That "coaching strategy might have survived?" The strategy that intentionally placed the game at risk?

That's the part you "somehow manage to ignore."

In that case, a "player mistake" was recovered by a "player touchdown." Coaching didn't have much to do with either one. "Coaching" sure as hell did not win that game, blame Simis all you want, his "fumble" did not affect the outcome. Not like 4 interceptions at NDSU, that's the part you somehow manage to ignore.

So why did it end up in OT in the first place, from a comfortable lead?

As Stitt admitted, he "went conservative" to protect a 24-13 lead, and then ordered more passing upon the theory -- direct quote -- "you have to pass sometime." So, in running up the plays (92) just to run up the plays and burn clock, what happened?

Gee, this is a tough one, isn't it?

So in the bolded above, are you trying to say that it was not the fault of Simis that he fumbled the ball multiple times in the ISU game?

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Ahhhh. The "did so, did too" argument construct. A wonderful walk in time back to 2nd grade. I still remember to this day how earth shattering and important those melee topics were then, and still are today. Especially the one where it was finally decided once and for all that sloppy joe's topped beanie-weenie casserole in cafeteria fare. There was no way both dishes could taste "delightful." That argument lasted the whole year.

Did it

Actually it was on course for a revival in 3rd grade but the new cafeteria manager refused to serve pork and beans and hot dogs for some reason.....

 

[griz9501]

Welcome to GRIZ NATION Reese Phillips and family.

I wonder which QB's will be transferring?
Gustafson now has to step his game up even further. Fall camp will be interesting with Phillips coming aboard.

Brady needs to develop his run game. Start building that cardiovascular. Brady is a great QB, but Reese may have a leg up with being able to run

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Ahhhh. The "did so, did too" argument construct. A wonderful walk in time back to 2nd grade. I still remember to this day how earth shattering and important those melee topics were then, and still are today. Especially the one where it was finally decided once and for all that sloppy joe's topped beanie-weenie casserole in cafeteria fare. There was no way both dishes could taste "delightful." That argument lasted the whole year.

Did it

Actually it was on course for a revival in 3rd grade but the new cafeteria manager refused to serve pork and beans and hot dogs for some reason.....

Did they

 

[EverettGriz]

Ursa, I think we can go ahead and mark this down as an early entrant into the Worst Thread of the Year contest for 2016.

And fair warning to any potential challengers: the bar has been set very, very high. Or would that be low.....

 

[tgreseth]

Ursa, I think we can go ahead and mark this down as an early entrant into the Worst Thread of the Year contest for 2016.

And fair warning to any potential challengers: the bar has been set very, very high. Or would that be low.....

It all starts with the thread title...I'm not sure this one says what it was meant to say

 

[UMGriz75]

So in the bolded above, are you trying to say that it was not the fault of Simis that he fumbled the ball multiple times in the ISU game?

"Those" resulted in what change to the score? What did cause Idaho State to be able to tie it up? Stitt admitted it. It was a strategic bad call to "go conservative." Stop always blaming the players. This isn't that tough. The coach flat-out admitted it. Next problem?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

So in the bolded above, are you trying to say that it was not the fault of Simis that he fumbled the ball multiple times in the ISU game?

"Those" resulted in what change to the score? What did cause Idaho State to be able to tie it up? Stitt admitted it. It was a strategic bad call to "go conservative." Stop always blaming the players. This isn't that tough. The coach flat-out admitted it. Next problem?

So Stitt fumbled?

 

[UMGriz75]

So Stitt fumbled?

 

[get'em_griz]

So in the bolded above, are you trying to say that it was not the fault of Simis that he fumbled the ball multiple times in the ISU game?

"Those" resulted in what change to the score? What did cause Idaho State to be able to tie it up? Stitt admitted it. It was a strategic bad call to "go conservative." Stop always blaming the players. This isn't that tough. The coach flat-out admitted it. Next problem?

So Stitt fumbled?

UMGriz 75 Logic: When players execute and good things happen, it's because of the players. When players don't execute (fumble, interceptions, dropped passes, etc) and bad things happen, it's Stitt's fault.

 

[PlayerRep]

So in the bolded above, are you trying to say that it was not the fault of Simis that he fumbled the ball multiple times in the ISU game?

"Those" resulted in what change to the score? What did cause Idaho State to be able to tie it up? Stitt admitted it. It was a strategic bad call to "go conservative." Stop always blaming the players. This isn't that tough. The coach flat-out admitted it. Next problem?

So Stitt fumbled?

UMGriz 75 Logic: When players execute and good things happen, it's because of the players. When players don't execute (fumble, interceptions, dropped passes, etc) and bad things happen, it's Stitt's fault.

Where did 75 ever say that? Looks like you're another one of those posters that just makes up stuff? If coaches have bad schemes and bad play calls, the player's execution may be impacted by the scheme/call. The coach has admitted to some of these things. Using your logic, you'd be blaming the UM captain who effectively told the ref that UM wanted to kick off twice in the No Colo game.

 

[Umista]

Hmmm...Is Reese coming???? Or is Stitt Leaving?????

Some should be long gone!

 

[UMGriz75]

So Stitt fumbled?

UMGriz 75 Logic: When players execute and good things happen, it's because of the players. When players don't execute (fumble, interceptions, dropped passes, etc) and bad things happen, it's Stitt's fault.

This is just being stupid. The fumble did not change the score. Indeed, that's the what makes this the "lucky" win -- the Griz scored. Stitt admitted that his decision to slow the game down did result in the loss of the lead and the OT. He may have said something about the Defense, I don't recall. But this isn't the "debate" you think it is. The question was answered -- by the Coach himself. Argue with him about his "75 logic."