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Recruiting Method

ORGUNGRIZ

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I was thinking about recruiting and how coaching staffs generally bring in freshman and red shirt them to build future teams.

However, I seem to recall when Pete Carrol was at USC he recruited with the sell of immediate play. Granted Carrol was in the hunt for blue chip recruits. Carrols approach did however appear to work.

Would Montana be able to offer the same? Granted on a much more limited scale. It would seem with the offer to play immediately UM might be able to land more 3 or even 4 star recruits away from some power 5 schools here in the western states. The recruits we might gain could have 4 years of play at UM rather than sitting a year or two or not playing at all at a power five.

One would think UM may have a solid shot at landing some more high talent recruits with a stadium and facilities on par with a good many MWC schools. We have a very solid fan base which certainly would aid in landing some of these kids.

I may be way off base, but thought I would pose the question.
 
Orgun, it could work in some cases if we were a FBS school. Most of these players don’t want to compete at the FCS level. Note: I said most, not all.
 
ORGUNGRIZ said:
I was thinking about recruiting and how coaching staffs generally bring in freshman and red shirt them to build future teams.

However, I seem to recall when Pete Carrol was at USC he recruited with the sell of immediate play. Granted Carrol was in the hunt for blue chip recruits. Carrols approach did however appear to work.

Would Montana be able to offer the same? Granted on a much more limited scale. It would seem with the offer to play immediately UM might be able to land more 3 or even 4 star recruits away from some power 5 schools here in the western states. The recruits we might gain could have 4 years of play at UM rather than sitting a year or two or not playing at all at a power five.

One would think UM may have a solid shot at landing some more high talent recruits with a stadium and facilities on par with a good many MWC schools. We have a very solid fan base which certainly would aid in landing some of these kids.

I may be way off base, but thought I would pose the question.
It worked with Sulser. Hauck's message is if you can compete as a true frosh and help the team, you will play.
 
Was Sulser a 3 star recruit? I think Orgun means is a concentrated effort recruiting 3 and 4 star athletes. I am of the opinion it would work in some instances if UM is a FBS program.
 
kemajic said:
ORGUNGRIZ said:
I was thinking about recruiting and how coaching staffs generally bring in freshman and red shirt them to build future teams.

However, I seem to recall when Pete Carrol was at USC he recruited with the sell of immediate play. Granted Carrol was in the hunt for blue chip recruits. Carrols approach did however appear to work.

Would Montana be able to offer the same? Granted on a much more limited scale. It would seem with the offer to play immediately UM might be able to land more 3 or even 4 star recruits away from some power 5 schools here in the western states. The recruits we might gain could have 4 years of play at UM rather than sitting a year or two or not playing at all at a power five.

One would think UM may have a solid shot at landing some more high talent recruits with a stadium and facilities on par with a good many MWC schools. We have a very solid fan base which certainly would aid in landing some of these kids.

I may be way off base, but thought I would pose the question.
It worked with Sulser. Hauck's message is if you can compete as a true frosh and help the team, you will play.

Not sure that is quite true. During recruiting, Sulser made it clear that his plan was not to redshirt, finish school in 4 years and move on to graduate school. Much different than the coach selling it.
 
Spanky2 said:
Was Sulser a 3 star recruit? I think Orgun means is a concentrated effort recruiting 3 and 4 star athletes. I am of the opinion it would work in some instances if UM is a FBS program.

Not sure it would be a huge seller for those 3 and 4 star kids that believe that they are FBS talent.
 
ORGUNGRIZ said:
I was thinking about recruiting and how coaching staffs generally bring in freshman and red shirt them to build future teams.

However, I seem to recall when Pete Carrol was at USC he recruited with the sell of immediate play. Granted Carrol was in the hunt for blue chip recruits. Carrols approach did however appear to work.

Would Montana be able to offer the same? Granted on a much more limited scale. It would seem with the offer to play immediately UM might be able to land more 3 or even 4 star recruits away from some power 5 schools here in the western states. The recruits we might gain could have 4 years of play at UM rather than sitting a year or two or not playing at all at a power five.

One would think UM may have a solid shot at landing some more high talent recruits with a stadium and facilities on par with a good many MWC schools. We have a very solid fan base which certainly would aid in landing some of these kids.

I may be way off base, but thought I would pose the question.

I think this is a pretty common approach across the board in recruiting.
 
Paytonlives said:
The kitten method is to offer everyone in the NW, MT and Texas and see what sticks

Correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t Choate recruited for Florida, Washington St, Boise State and University of Washington?

No offense, but I’ll take his methods over yours.
 
grizindabox said:
kemajic said:
ORGUNGRIZ said:
I was thinking about recruiting and how coaching staffs generally bring in freshman and red shirt them to build future teams.

However, I seem to recall when Pete Carrol was at USC he recruited with the sell of immediate play. Granted Carrol was in the hunt for blue chip recruits. Carrols approach did however appear to work.

Would Montana be able to offer the same? Granted on a much more limited scale. It would seem with the offer to play immediately UM might be able to land more 3 or even 4 star recruits away from some power 5 schools here in the western states. The recruits we might gain could have 4 years of play at UM rather than sitting a year or two or not playing at all at a power five.

One would think UM may have a solid shot at landing some more high talent recruits with a stadium and facilities on par with a good many MWC schools. We have a very solid fan base which certainly would aid in landing some of these kids.

I may be way off base, but thought I would pose the question.
It worked with Sulser. Hauck's message is if you can compete as a true frosh and help the team, you will play.

Not sure that is quite true. During recruiting, Sulser made it clear that his plan was not to redshirt, finish school in 4 years and move on to graduate school. Much different than the coach selling it.
Didn't suggest the coach was selling anything. But his visible position may have narrowed the field as some potential spots (e.g., NDSU) may have insisted he redshirt.
 
grizindabox said:
kemajic said:
ORGUNGRIZ said:
I was thinking about recruiting and how coaching staffs generally bring in freshman and red shirt them to build future teams.

However, I seem to recall when Pete Carrol was at USC he recruited with the sell of immediate play. Granted Carrol was in the hunt for blue chip recruits. Carrols approach did however appear to work.

Would Montana be able to offer the same? Granted on a much more limited scale. It would seem with the offer to play immediately UM might be able to land more 3 or even 4 star recruits away from some power 5 schools here in the western states. The recruits we might gain could have 4 years of play at UM rather than sitting a year or two or not playing at all at a power five.

One would think UM may have a solid shot at landing some more high talent recruits with a stadium and facilities on par with a good many MWC schools. We have a very solid fan base which certainly would aid in landing some of these kids.

I may be way off base, but thought I would pose the question.
It worked with Sulser. Hauck's message is if you can compete as a true frosh and help the team, you will play.

Not sure that is quite true. During recruiting, Sulser made it clear that his plan was not to redshirt, finish school in 4 years and move on to graduate school. Much different than the coach selling it.

I promise you that Hauck never promised him playing time, that's for sure. There were "other" schools that did but we were not one of them
 
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